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handiman said:
I was talking about Steph, obviously, with regards to the prove-it deal because of all the ankle problems. I didn't realize you changed it to Seth, who never went the prove-it deal route. It simply took him a long time to carve out enough of a niche to get much of a contract.
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seth got hurt, we signed him to a small contract for a year, he played well and got a better contract
 
Who is Sharpe’s agent, and how offended will they be by less than the max? Because you can talk prove it deals until the cows come home but that requires several to tango.

Sharpe will probably get the max, because he probably will deserve it.
 
No player should get a max extension that has never made an all star or all nba team
 
riverman said:
The CBA is constantly changing the way the market works. It’s not the same as the trader Bob market anymore.
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Who out of Desmond Bane, Evan Mobley, Franz Wagner, or Cade Cunningham had an all-star or all-NBA selection on their max extension during the current CBA?
 
riverman said:
No player should get a max extension that has never made an all star or all nba team
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An all NBA selection almost always gets a supermax extension which is a lot more than a normal max extension. The fact is if Shaedon continues to play like he has been this season with the upward trajectory that we've seen he'll more than earn a max extension. If we clear the runway for him by moving Ant and Jerami (mostly Ant) Shae will put up all star numbers... we've already seen it.
 
Phatguysrule said:
We'll never be able to keep quality players if we don't pay more than the market rate.
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Lillard demanded a trade right after making more than the market rate....not sure that applies in every circumstance. The new cap is going to change the amount of these big deals passed out in the past in my view. Sharpe right now is our most potential all star but he hasn't had a consistent season of all star play yet. He could be our franchise player or he could be Allan Crabbe at this point in his career. I don't see him as having earned a max deal so far going on his "potential"..I want him to have that trajectory but I'm not sure he's a lock at this point. We'll see if he becomes that guy this season hopefully
 
riverman said:
Lillard demanded a trade right after making more than the market rate....not sure that applies in every circumstance. The new cap is going to change the amount of these big deals passed out in the past in my view.
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And by paying him well we kept him far longer than we likely would have otherwise.

And let's be real, Dame is different. If you're expecting that kind of loyalty while pinching pennies with players you're going to have to get used to barely making the play-in.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And by paying him well we kept him far longer than we likely would have otherwise.

And let's be real, Dame is different. If you're expecting that kind of loyalty while pinching pennies with players you're going to have to get used to barely making the play-in.
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We disagree....we got Banton and Camara by pinching pennies. Dame is loyal but so was Tim Duncan in a small market...Duncan took a paycut to bring Ginobli back...Dame didn't take a paycut
 
riverman said:
We disagree....we got Banton and Camara by pinching pennies. Dame is loyal but so was Tim Duncan in a small market...Duncan took a paycut to bring Ginobli back...Dame didn't take a paycut
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But when it's contract time we'll have to pay Banton and Camara what the market demands if we want to keep them. Even that may not be enough. See Josh Hart.
 
blazedanugz said:
seth got hurt, we signed him to a small contract for a year, he played well and got a better contract
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Fail. Seth's contract was ~$1M/season in '15-16, $3M/season in '16-17, $3M/season for us, then $8M/season after he had shown he was ready for a bigger role. We paid him market rate at the time. It wasn't a prove-it contract.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
3 things certain for most Blazer fans.......Taxes, Death, and complaining about the overpay.
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Fans will be fans, and it's the same for every team. The owner always pays too much in salary, the players never play hard enough, the coaches are idiots, and the medical staff are quacks. And it doesn't matter anyway because every other team is dirty and the refs are on the take.
 
riverman said:
We disagree....we got Banton and Camara by pinching pennies. Dame is loyal but so was Tim Duncan in a small market...Duncan took a paycut to bring Ginobli back...Dame didn't take a paycut
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Dame did take a pay cut on his 2nd contract. He was eligible for a 30% max but agreed to settle for a 27.5% salary so Olshey had more room to operate. And Olshey's idea of operating was that idiotic 2016 spending spree. Dame saw that and didn't take a pay cut again

and LOL at the Duncan example; it's not anything close to the same...He took his pay cut when he was 36 years old, and after the Spurs had won 4 championships
 
For the record I have no problem with Jody spending all her money on the team and paying luxury tax every season...it's not my money. I can spend her money without blinking on a message board. I've never been someone who thinks ownership is the Blazers problem.
 
riverman said:
the amount of cap eaten by Dame's contract absolutely makes it close to the same. Dame signed his big deal in his 30s as well but what player did we sign for 2.5% of Dame's paycut? Refresh my memory? Duncan bringing back Ginobli is quite different from Dame bringing back a teammate without any rings, I'll give you that. My point in all of this is teams can no longer afford to give a third of their cap room to one player anymore and have the depth to compete. The Bucks are dealing with that this season. The Warriors just ate a ton of luxury tax for their recent dynasty.
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again though, Duncan took that pay cut when he was 36. Dame signed his last contract when he was 29. Duncan sure as shit didn't take any pay cut when he was in his prime at 29 or 30. Duncan was paid max salaries in San Antonio or 11 years; Dame had max salaries in Portland for 7 years. And 5 of those seasons weren't really quite max salaries because of the 27.5% signing.

And Dame didn't sign a new deal a year before he was traded; he simply signed a max extension and that extension doesn't start till next season. Portland dodged the 4 highest salaries of Dame's contracts. And the season following that extension, Dame averaged 32-7-5 with a .645 TS% in the best season of his career. The season before Duncan's pay cut he averaged 15-9-2 with a .531 TS%

it's weird. Dame was arguably the best Blazer player for the longest period of time. He was undoubtedly the most loyal player the Blazers have had. He carried the Blazers to the playoffs for 8 straight seasons and made two iconic series winning shots. Yet some Blazers fans knock Dame for not taking a pay cut in his prime when no other all-NBA did that
 
handiman said:
Fail. Seth's contract was ~$1M/season in '15-16, $3M/season in '16-17, $3M/season for us, then $8M/season after he had shown he was ready for a bigger role. We paid him market rate at the time. It wasn't a prove-it contract.
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“Fail”
okay well it depends on your definition of prove it deal.
16-17 he had his best year to date. The following year he missed the whole season with a fibula injury.
If he would have replicated that year he would’ve gotten a much better contract. Nobody wanted to sign him for more than the minimum?

I would call that a prove it deal
 
blazedanugz said:
“Fail”
okay well it depends on your definition of prove it deal.
16-17 he had his best year to date. The following year he missed the whole season with a fibula injury.
If he would have replicated that year he would’ve gotten a much better contract. Nobody wanted to sign him for more than the minimum?

I would call that a prove it deal
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You're missing the bigger point. Steph was an emerging star, face of the franchise, and took a smaller deal because of the concerns about his ability to stay healthy. Seth was a middling free agent switching teams and not regarded as a building block by anyone. One is the exact same scenario as Sharpe, while the other has absolutely no relevance.
 
handiman said:
You're missing the bigger point. Steph was an emerging star, face of the franchise, and took a smaller deal because of the concerns about his ability to stay healthy. Seth was a middling free agent switching teams and not regarded as a building block by anyone. One is the exact same scenario as Sharpe, while the other has absolutely no relevance.
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Ahh see I think you are the one missing the point.
Golden state is an attractive place to play. Its a big market
They have the luxury of “prove it” deals.
We are Portland. You don’t think Shaedon would think about going somewhere else in free agency?

we have to lock our players up. A prove it deal would be pretty dumb
 
Wonder where we stand now.

Jalen Green had slightly better stats through year 3, and Houston gave him a 3yr extension for 106 mil with the 3rd yr player option.

That would be a decent deal for Sharpe but not a home run for the team. I think both parties will end up bypassing an early extension and allow him to get to RFA status next year in a make or break season.
 
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