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Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I have no idea whoyou coould acquire who fits the bill who makes around $8M-$9M.</p>

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David West? lol, he's not going anywhere tho. But he would work. He makes around 9 mill.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>I suspect we wouldn't get David West. It's hard to imagine any other deal--PFs are either to highly paid or not paid enough to make that sort of deal work.</div></p>

Kaman is not a PF. And stop reading my mind</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fruitcake)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

what about nene?</p>

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Nene would definitely work. Denver is an interesting team--they have just one true center, Camby, who allegedly they have been thinking about trading. Their other bigs are Nene, Steven Hunter, KMart, and Najera. Obviously some of thosewill line up at center from time to time, but even if they keep Camby they could use some more depth, especially if KMart washes out again. </p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

Foor for thought: Nene got injured again during the summer games.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

Bill Simmons wrote an article that called for Phoenix to trade Marion to Utah for AK-47 striaght up. He said it would make total sense but they won't do it because this is the "No balls association."</p>

Maybe Phoenix doesn't want to do it because they don't want to help a team that was top 4 in the West last year and IS STILL IMPROVING.</p>

I love ghoti's trade. Thing is can Antoine Wright step in at the two?</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fruitcake)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

what about nene?</p>

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If he was healthy..</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

I don't understand trading VC out and getting Marion in (I'd be all for a Marion - RJ swap). Because who plays the 2? RJ?</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

Whatever happened to wilcox? Put up good numbers on a loser. 3 years 24 million, salary should be around that magical figure, deal expires after 2009. Seattle would save about 1 million in this deal. Throw in 1st rounder and send Boki for GSW's JRich trade exception and GSW sends Seattle a pick. I figure with Wilcox, Boki will lose time and to alleviate lux tax headaches, unload Boki in the same deal. He will fit right in with Nellie's system of run and gund with no defense. Being an expiriing deal, won't kill the Warriors.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I don't understand trading VC out and getting Marion in (I'd be all for a Marion - RJ swap). Because who plays the 2? RJ?</p>

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Wright.</p>

That would make the Nets one of the best defensive teams in the league and everyone would be on the same page.</p>

You don't need an All-Star at every position. You need to surround your best player with guys who give him his best chance to take you where you want to go.</p>

I'd do a Marion/RJ swap, too, but the Nets would be better if they traded VC for him.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Shawn Marion is possibly the best man defender in the league.</p>

I think he should be the current DPOY.</p>

As much as I love Kirilenko, I think Marion would improve the Nets more.</p>

It makes a ton of sense for all three teams to pull of a Christmas blockbuster.</p>

Carter to Utah, AK to Phoenix, Marion to New Jersey.</p>

Every team gets an upgrade and a player they desperately need.</p>

This trade would make all three teams better, and make the Jazz and Nets MUCH better.</p>

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And then we'd all wake up.</p>

There's no way that the Marion situation is going that long without getting resolved. If it were to happen though, I'd probably poop my pants with joy. Seriously, it would be bowel-clearing joy.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Carter is pretty much untouchable for various reasons, one being he just signed a contract and can't be traded yet.</p>

I don't see the point in trading Marcus, boki and RJ. We get a definite upgrade at the 4 which we need but we just kill our other postions. A team built around a few guys does not work, come on Nets fans we know this.</p>

I prefer we go after AK because he would cost less to get.</p>

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i agree as well...i'd rather give less to get AK than give more to get Marion. Andrei's much younger, and with more touches and a different coach, i could see him producing much more, and we'd have the probability of losing Marion after 2008.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Shawn Marion is possibly the best man defender in the league.</p>

I think he should be the current DPOY.</p>

As much as I love Kirilenko, I think Marion would improve the Nets more.</p>

It makes a ton of sense for all three teams to pull of a Christmas blockbuster.</p>

Carter to Utah, AK to Phoenix, Marion to New Jersey.</p>

Every team gets an upgrade and a player they desperately need.</p>

This trade would make all three teams better, and make the Jazz and Nets MUCH better.</p>

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And then we'd all wake up.</p>

There's no way that the Marion situation is going that long without getting resolved. If it were to happen though, I'd probably poop my pants with joy. Seriously, it would be bowel-clearing joy.</p>

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Since you have no pants, that could be disasterous.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Shawn Marion is possibly the best man defender in the league.</p>

I think he should be the current DPOY.</p>

As much as I love Kirilenko, I think Marion would improve the Nets more.</p>

It makes a ton of sense for all three teams to pull of a Christmas blockbuster.</p>

Carter to Utah, AK to Phoenix, Marion to New Jersey.</p>

Every team gets an upgrade and a player they desperately need.</p>

This trade would make all three teams better, and make the Jazz and Nets MUCH better.</p>

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this trade would be too good to be true, if it ever happened.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

20 mil a year for Marion is beyond ludicrous. Man...what is with all the malcontents this summer. They should all be suspended for a year without pay.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

First of all, lol @ "bowl-clearing"</p>

But I wouldn't like putting Wright at the 2. Put Marion at the 4 and then start who? Magloire? So Boone and Krstic off the bench? Unless of course we need defense, so Collins would get minutes. That situation leaves Boone or Krstic getting limited bench minutes, and I'd want to see our better players on the court. Plus I want to see what Sean Williams can do.</p>

I can't say that we would suffer offensively, but rather our offensive identity would be changed. Of course what does worry me is that when our offense goes stagnant we don't have a singular player to bail us out.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

First of all, lol @ "bowl-clearing"</p>

But I wouldn't like putting Wright at the 2. Put Marion at the 4 and then start who? Magloire? So Boone and Krstic off the bench? Unless of course we need defense, so Collins would get minutes. That situation leaves Boone or Krstic getting limited bench minutes, and I'd want to see our better players on the court. Plus I want to see what Sean Williams can do.</p>

I can't say that we would suffer offensively, but rather our offensive identity would be changed. Of course what does worry me is that when our offense goes stagnant we don't have a singular player to bail us out.</p>

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Kidd, Wright, RJ, Marion, Krstic.</p>

That's a much, much better starting lineup than the Nets have right now.</p>

The "singular player to bail us out" plan isn't working. This team would be much better on both ends of the floor, even though the PPG would go down a bit.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

I'd go to the bathroom to take a shit, but it still would be great.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

Am I the only one not really understanding why so many people would move Vince for AK or Marion as opposed to RJ? I mean I like RJ and all but RJ can not do what Vince does. RJ is a talented player no doubt but he is not the superstar Vince is and RJ can not go on a streak and drop 40 on any given night. Only problem Vince really has is a coaching one and thats the team not moving the ball aroudn at the end of games and leaving him to Iso. Change the play and all is well. If it came down between the 2 I would trade RJ before i would trade Vince.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

First of all, lol @ "bowl-clearing"</p>

But I wouldn't like putting Wright at the 2. Put Marion at the 4 and then start who? Magloire? So Boone and Krstic off the bench? Unless of course we need defense, so Collins would get minutes. That situation leaves Boone or Krstic getting limited bench minutes, and I'd want to see our better players on the court. Plus I want to see what Sean Williams can do.</p>

I can't say that we would suffer offensively, but rather our offensive identity would be changed. Of course what does worry me is that when our offense goes stagnant we don't have a singular player to bail us out.</p>

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wait, so we're trading Kidd away, too?</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMann)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Am I the only one not really understanding why so many people would move Vince for AK or Marion as opposed to RJ? I mean I like RJ and all but RJ can not do what Vince does. RJ is a talented player no doubt but he is not the superstar Vince is and RJ can not go on a streak and drop 40 on any given night. Only problem Vince really has is a coaching one and thats the team not moving the ball aroudn at the end of games and leaving him to Iso. Change the play and all is well. If it came down between the 2 I would trade RJ before i would trade Vince.</p>

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so that our team would have a strong defensive identity with RJ over VC. and so that the running game would be strong, with RJ and AK alongside Kidd.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

It's RJ and Boki Marion for me. I think Wrightwoulddo a good job at SF. He and Marion could run with Kidd. Bernard Robinson could defendbigger forwards. Nachbar's going to be an FA next year and we do not have the resources to keep him. If we lose him now, aswell asRJ, we could have Krstic, Marion, Wright, Carter, and Kidd as ourstarting five. If we want to overpower our opponents we could even put Marion at SF andhave Magloire, Collins, Marion, Carter, and Kidd--a really big, rough team. I'm not sure about trading Marcus though.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMann)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Am I the only one not really understanding why so many people would move Vince for AK or Marion as opposed to RJ? I mean I like RJ and all but RJ can not do what Vince does. RJ is a talented player no doubt but he is not the superstar Vince is and RJ can not go on a streak and drop 40 on any given night. Only problem Vince really has is a coaching one and thats the team not moving the ball aroudn at the end of games and leaving him to Iso. Change the play and all is well. If it came down between the 2 I would trade RJ before i would trade Vince.</p>

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I would rather trade Vince, but RJ is a better fit in Phoenix. Also, that trade can be made right away.</p>

The reason I included the Jazz is that Vince is worth more to them than any team in the NBA. Their starting SG is Gordan Giricek, and they need scoring from that position to get them to the next level.</p>

As for Marion, I can't stress enough how perfect a fit he is for the Nets. He is the lockdown man defender the Nets haven't had since - well, you know - and Jason Kidd needs that now more than ever.</p>

Also, Marion's value is decreased anywhere he goes except if he goes to the Nets.</p>

He plays with Steve Nash, and he's been fortunate that's the case.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

Thinking about it, Marion could work for us in many ways. He's dominant and versatile. I like RJ but he can't defend power forwards the way Marion can. On the other hand, Marion can cover Lebron the same way RJ can. I am not convince about Kirilenko's lateral defense.I saw a game where Lebron dropped 50 on him. Lebron could notdo that to RJ or Marion. Let's trade for him and put Wright and Bernard Robinson at SF.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

Oo nga. You have to consider that he may lose much of his scoring in LA with Kobe. He would do just fine in Utah with Deron, but his best bet is to play with Kidd.I also failed to mention how his rebounding could really help the team.Was in the top 5 in rebounding, I think,in the last two years.</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

First of all, lol @ "bowl-clearing"</p>

But I wouldn't like putting Wright at the 2. Put Marion at the 4 and then start who? Magloire? So Boone and Krstic off the bench? Unless of course we need defense, so Collins would get minutes. That situation leaves Boone or Krstic getting limited bench minutes, and I'd want to see our better players on the court. Plus I want to see what Sean Williams can do.</p>

I can't say that we would suffer offensively, but rather our offensive identity would be changed. Of course what does worry me is that when our offense goes stagnant we don't have a singular player to bail us out.</p>

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wait, so we're trading Kidd away, too?</p>

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Kidd's forte is the transition game</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

First of all, lol @ "bowl-clearing"</p>

But I wouldn't like putting Wright at the 2. Put Marion at the 4 and then start who? Magloire? So Boone and Krstic off the bench? Unless of course we need defense, so Collins would get minutes. That situation leaves Boone or Krstic getting limited bench minutes, and I'd want to see our better players on the court. Plus I want to see what Sean Williams can do.</p>

I can't say that we would suffer offensively, but rather our offensive identity would be changed. Of course what does worry me is that when our offense goes stagnant we don't have a singular player to bail us out.</p>

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wait, so we're trading Kidd away, too?</p>

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Kidd's forte is the transition game</p>

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Kidd's forte is controlling the pace of the game and giving other guys the ball exactly when and where they need it.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

...while transitioning</p>
 
Re: Shawn Marion :

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

...while transitioning</p>

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No. All the time.</p>

When he doesn't have the ball, he's a below average offensive player and a world-class rebounder.</p>

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Re: Shawn Marion :

The Nets have a nice team. I dont get why everytime that a high profile player is rumored to want out, the Nets fans on this site want them. I mean why must all news revolve the Nets? Just one of the reasons I miss BBW</p>
 
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