Shooting at Umpqua Community College: 10 dead

[Mamba]

So what? What you purchased was an instrument of death. The least you should have to do is go through a background check.

When you buy your next car, you're buying an instrument of death. Granted, its also an instrument of transportation, but it is also an instrument of death. I fully expect you to be finger printed and have a background check.

 

[PDXFonz]

Its not short sighted, its the main cause of gun deaths and mass shootings.

Short sighted behavior is asking for more gun control which really doesnt work. Yeah, we pull up statistics from how white and asian countries with gun control have lower homicide rates blah blah blah. Its just an easy talking point and an avoidance of the real issue.

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In London they kill people with Umbrellas and Canes, and drink milk laced with Mescaline. Is that a mental health issue?

 

[MarAzul]

Are cars designed to take human life?

Ha! I suppose you think the front bumper is design to protect your ass! Go figure!

What you think this lady would answer?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224878/Muslim-father-ran-daughter-westernised-US.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350284/Muslim-father-ran-daughter-20-Westernised.htm

Or this guy, using a knife, auto and gun to do his evil work.
"Rodger, nursing his own bullet wound, stepped on the gas and struck the second cyclist"

Rodger, nursing his own bullet wound, stepped on the gas and struck the second cyclist, Brown said.

 

[magnifier661]

In London they kill people with Umbrellas and Canes, and drink milk laced with Mescaline. Is that a mental health issue?

Say what??????

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

In London they kill people with Umbrellas and Canes, and drink milk laced with Mescaline. Is that a mental health issue?

Its england being 90% white country issue.

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[MarAzul]

the definition of 'arms' will have to be expanded greatly

I don't see why, this dictionary definition seems adequate.
1. Weapons considered collectively.

 

[MarAzul]

Quit zoning places where everyone knows, no one is armed.. That is stupid.
We set up our schools to be a penalty free killing field for the nearest wacko. At least until a man with a gun comes to the rescue

Why is a Gun Free Zone free of guns until a bad guy comes with a gun? The it is a killing zone until a good guy comes with a gun.
Would a liberal defend this lunacy so I can understand the logic?

 

[blue32]

I saw an interesting statistic they were pushing on the news. Everyday 36 people die from guns... A quick lookup, and huh, weird ya know what? 1300 people die everyday from smoking (exposure, or second hand) and 3200 people everyday from car accidents.

 

[donkiez]

I don't think many understand the concept of a gun free zone. Not allowing every idiot with a gun and a superhero fantasy to carry minimizes the accidental or collateral damage that these people can cause. It may (and this is arguable) make situations with active shooters less safe, but the overall safety is a net gain. So in essence you are trading the every day idiot danger for occasional psychopath danger. Gun free zones are not just about bad guys and good guys.

 

[barfo]

I don't see why, this dictionary definition seems adequate.
1. Weapons considered collectively.

How many nukes do you have? How many nukes can you get? Is a nuke a weapon?

Future new types of weapons are, I'm guessing, likely to be similarly restricted, to the extent it is possible to do so.

barfo

 

[jlprk]

3200 people everyday from car accidents.

It's 88, 2 1/2% of that.

 

[donkiez]

How many nukes do you have? How many nukes can you get? Is a nuke a weapon?

Future new types of weapons are, I'm guessing, likely to be similarly restricted, to the extent it is possible to do so.

barfo

I think its clear that our founding fathers meant for us all to have lasers and EMP devices.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I just want a fully working ironman suit.

 

[donkiez]

I just want a fully working ironman suit with a built in fleshlight.

FIFY

 

[riverman]

Yeah and if the government with their tanks, helicopters and bazookas really comes to take your shit away. There's nothing you can do about it. Those of you who think they can defend themselves from some imaginary war against the government need to get your heads examined.

Mao's red guard destroying shit in 1966

 

[MarAzul]

I think its clear that our founding fathers meant for us all to have lasers and EMP devices.

No, I think the language is clear, they meant for us to have weapons, two hundred years ago, today, and two hundred years from now. Probably not sufficiently armed as to effect
international relations, as Arming a Naval vessel was frowned on, a Nuke probably should be view in the same way.

 

[MarAzul]

I don't think many understand the concept of a gun free zone. Not allowing every idiot with a gun and a superhero fantasy to carry minimizes the accidental or collateral damage that these people can cause. It may (and this is arguable) make situations with active shooters less safe, but the overall safety is a net gain. So in essence you are trading the every day idiot danger for occasional psychopath danger. Gun free zones are not just about bad guys and good guys.

I think you are the one that does not know what this means. It means even people authorized to carry can not carry in these zones. That is why when the wacko comes with a gun, you have to call out to 911 for a guy with a gun. Gun free zone means killing zone to those that don't give a shit about the rule and no one there can stop them. Totally illogical.

Oh, by the way, have we had any shooting by superhero fantasy types? Maybe I missed it.

 

[MARIS61]

When you buy your next car, you're buying an instrument of death. Granted, its also an instrument of transportation, but it is also an instrument of death. I fully expect you to be finger printed and have a background check.

ONCE THEY SEE HIS RABID-FAN MESSAGE BOARD POSTS THEY'LL PUT HIM ON THE NO-WEAPONS-LIST DUE TO MENTAL INSTABILITY.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Well to be fair there were several people on campus with concealed weapons because the gun free zone was held unconstitutional. I listened to one of them calling into Fox Radio yesterday who was a veteran and wanted to go confront the gunman but staff told him not to. My thought was that could be a horrible situation. Imagine the police response not knowing who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.

 

[MarAzul]

Well to be fair there were several people on campus with concealed weapons because the gun free zone was held unconstitutional. I listened to one of them calling into Fox Radio yesterday who was a veteran and wanted to go confront the gunman but staff told him not to. My thought was that could be a horrible situation. Imagine the police response not knowing who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.

As I hear it, the school still has a policy of no guns. That means no one was there armed to protect the student from the wacko. They had to wait for the good guy with a gun to come.
The guy you speak of didn't use his so he was of no count even though he apparently ignored the policy. My guess is the wacko didn't come near him or the staff might have been ignored also.

 

[blue32]

It's 88, 2 1/2% of that.

Yeah yeah, I quoted global stats, oops.

Either way, both smoking and auto crashes trump guns. That's the point.

 

[blue32]

Well to be fair there were several people on campus with concealed weapons because the gun free zone was held unconstitutional. I listened to one of them calling into Fox Radio yesterday who was a veteran and wanted to go confront the gunman but staff told him not to. My thought was that could be a horrible situation. Imagine the police response not knowing who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.

Yeah, agree. also he was wearing body armor too. Most CHL owners would shoot for the body; well hell so do Police, so that would have not gone over too well.

 

[barfo]

Yeah yeah, I quoted global stats, oops.

Either way, both smoking and auto crashes trump guns. That's the point.

Shh! You don't want to use the word trump around here.

barfo

 

[blue32]

Shh! You don't want to use the word trump around here.

barfo

 

[stampedehero]

It seems social disease affects the hollow minded creeps like this idiot.

 

[PDXFonz]

Well to be fair there were several people on campus with concealed weapons because the gun free zone was held unconstitutional. I listened to one of them calling into Fox Radio yesterday who was a veteran and wanted to go confront the gunman but staff told him not to. My thought was that could be a horrible situation. Imagine the police response not knowing who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.

Well that and like UncleCliffysdaddy said - Do you really want to turn these situations into shootouts at the O.K Corral?

 

[Denny Crane]

Well that and like UncleCliffysdaddy said - Do you really want to turn these situations into shootouts at the O.K Corral?

It seems it was the OK Corral.

Maybe some of the carnage could have been avoided.

 

[theprunetang]

I am just scared about what might happen. The Westboro Baptist Church is planning a protest during the funerals. I know my hometown, and this is not going to end well. I hope things remain peaceful, but I have my doubts. There is definitely a threat of violence. It might not end well for anybody.

 

[barfo]

I am just scared about what might happen. The Westboro Baptist Church is planning a protest during the funerals. I know my hometown, and this is not going to end well. I hope things remain peaceful, but I have my doubts. There is definitely a threat of violence. It might not end well for anybody.

Protest of what? I'm confused.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/umpqu...ting-victims-funeral-westboro-baptist-church/