Shooting at Umpqua Community College: 10 dead

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Please don't give this guy personal attention. Don't share his name and shit. Don't increase his infamy.
 
The lack of medical attention for mental disorders in this country is awful

With all these shootings, bi-polar disorder, depression, aspergers, etc. Are at the root. I'd bet almost anything
 
speeds said:
Please don't give this guy personal attention. Don't share his name and shit. Don't increase his infamy.
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On the one hand, I completely agree with you, but on the other hand we really need to start understanding why these kids are doing this. Sure, we can blame the guns and spend all our time and energy trying to control the guns, but why is it happening in the first place? What is causing these kids to decide that they need to go shoot up a school or a movie theater? What pushes them to that breaking point? Do they have nothing to lose? They crave attention that much? Do they have no friends? Are they lonely and depressed? I want to know why they do it.

One thing that I don't think gets talked about enough is that these kids can go online and get encouragement from other people. Before the internet, nobody could have done that. You wouldn't go out and openly talk about doing something like this. But the anonymity allows these kids to openly discuss what they want to do with others. The internet also gives these kids significantly more attention than ever before. Billions of people hear about them, almost in real time. If you're an attention craved nutjob, that kind of mass exposure is almost impossible to turn down.
 
Not saying his name will do nothing. It will be all over the news and internet soon.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not saying his name will do nothing. It will be all over the news and internet soon.
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CNN isn't sharing his name right now--not sure if that is because they can't or because they've chosen not to.
 
Mediocre Man said:
The lack of medical attention for mental disorders in this country is awful

With all these shootings, bi-polar disorder, depression, aspergers, etc. Are at the root. I'd bet almost anything
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There's a "hashtag" going around social media of people celebrating that they are on big pharm anti-depressants. #MedicatedandMighty

http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/01/these...tal-health-is-not-a-sign-of-weakness-5416391/

It’s normal to take medication to help you get better when you’re not well.

Except for when that medication is to help you live with mental illness.

Then there’s still a huge stigma.

People with mental illnesses are often told to try to walk it off, or simply to try harder.

Which is ridiculous as a person with anxiety can no more snap out of it than a person can try harder to get rid of asthma.

Erin Jones tried to combat this stigma earlier this month with a selfie on Facebook where she showed her prescription for anti-depressants.

She said: ‘Anxiety and antidepressant medication to the rescue. Sometimes, folks, we just need help.’
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Its a cultural issue. People are getting their kids all hopped up on these anti-depressants and shit.
 
Natebishop3 said:
On the one hand, I completely agree with you, but on the other hand we really need to start understanding why these kids are doing this. Sure, we can blame the guns and spend all our time and energy trying to control the guns, but why is it happening in the first place? What is causing these kids to decide that they need to go shoot up a school or a movie theater? What pushes them to that breaking point? Do they have nothing to lose? They crave attention that much? Do they have no friends? Are they lonely and depressed? I want to know why they do it.

One thing that I don't think gets talked about enough is that these kids can go online and get encouragement from other people. Before the internet, nobody could have done that. You wouldn't go out and openly talk about doing something like this. But the anonymity allows these kids to openly discuss what they want to do with others. The internet also gives these kids significantly more attention than ever before. Billions of people hear about them, almost in real time. If you're an attention craved nutjob, that kind of mass exposure is almost impossible to turn down.
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I have a strong opinion about this trend and it comes from isolated entertainment that involves killing over and over and over again, but my son disagrees with me. The other factor is parental apathy. Teens need a voice of reason and in many cases, lack healthy activities. I told my son and his friends for many many years that they should think about military careers given their obsession with games of assasination and death. My son outgrew it, for a youngster less mentally stable..it might have a more negative impact on reality. This is not going to be a popular topic with the younger generation around here but I thought I should mention it
 
Natebishop3 said:
On the one hand, I completely agree with you, but on the other hand we really need to start understanding why these kids are doing this. Sure, we can blame the guns and spend all our time and energy trying to control the guns, but why is it happening in the first place? What is causing these kids to decide that they need to go shoot up a school or a movie theater? What pushes them to that breaking point? Do they have nothing to lose? They crave attention that much? Do they have no friends? Are they lonely and depressed? I want to know why they do it.

One thing that I don't think gets talked about enough is that these kids can go online and get encouragement from other people. Before the internet, nobody could have done that. You wouldn't go out and openly talk about doing something like this. But the anonymity allows these kids to openly discuss what they want to do with others. The internet also gives these kids significantly more attention than ever before. Billions of people hear about them, almost in real time. If you're an attention craved nutjob, that kind of mass exposure is almost impossible to turn down.
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I think you can have it both ways. You can have the discussion without unintentionally lionizing the killers.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not saying his name will do nothing. It will be all over the news and internet soon.
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wrong..it gives him satisfaction in a lot of cases and completes his intention of 15 minutes of fame...everybody knows Charles Manson but nobody knows the guy who caught him..that's the name to remember
 
Looking at that 4chan thread all I can think of is ...

#nerdlivesmatter
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So he was upset over arguing on a forum?!?

This is why we have the no personal insult rule here. If not, eventually one of you would shoot me.
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speaking of which, DaRizzle (lakers fan) called out some dude online yesterday and challeneged him to a fight. It was a "Meet me in Temecula" situation where he didn't show but the other dude drove out to meet him. haha
 
riverman said:
I have a strong opinion about this trend and it comes from isolated entertainment that involves killing over and over and over again, but my son disagrees with me. The other factor is parental apathy. Teens need a voice of reason and in many cases, lack healthy activities. I told my son and his friends for many many years that they should think about military careers given their obsession with games of assasination and death. My son outgrew it, for a youngster less mentally stable..it might have a more negative impact on reality. This is not going to be a popular topic with the younger generation around here but I thought I should mention it
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I think we are definitely desensitized because of games/movies/TV. There's always horrible videos going around on the internet of people dying, and it seems to completely unphase people who watch them. With that said, being unphased about violence doesn't mean that people are more likely to commit violence. It goes deeper than that.

One thing that I've always felt is that my generation never had a war with high casualties, so these nutjobs were never sent off to die on the battlefield.

The US had 407,300 military deaths during WWII.

The US had 37,000 casualties during the Korean War.

The US had 58,220 casualties during the Vietnam War.

The US had roughly 6800 casualties between the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
 
riverman said:
wrong..it gives him satisfaction in a lot of cases and completes his intention of 15 minutes of fame...everybody knows Charles Manson but nobody knows the guy who caught him..that's the name to remember
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He's dead. He won't know
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because it has nothing to do with him. Not publicizing him and making him famous is to prevent others from doing the same thing. That's the whole point, to prevent future attention seeking nutjobs from copy catting.
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Then that's the argument. Who gives a fuck about this guy because the guy is dead
 
The shooter was apparently posting on a forum before he went on this rampage -- 4Chan?
 
I agree with President Obama. We need to stop this violence and change guns laws. We need to eliminate gun free zones.
 
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