Shooting at Umpqua Community College: 10 dead

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RR7 said:
as long as the 2nd ammendment covers my ability to own IEDs and such
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Nobody in the world uses guns against an occupying force.

/sarcasm
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Looks like the shooter went to a school for kids with "learning disabilities" and "emotional issues" in a class of 5.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-...ved-in-torrance-graduated-from-switzer-center



From their website:
http://www.switzercenter.org/students-on-autism-spectrum
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you do understand how saying "aspies being aspies" is kind of offensive, and incredibly ignorant on your part?

actually, I don't care if you do. I allowed myself to read your drivel again.
 
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Chris Harper Mercer was an atheist. (MySpace Image)

Lovely. completely bought the liberal anti religion movement.
 
julius said:
you do understand how saying "aspies being aspies" is kind of offensive, and incredibly ignorant on your part?

actually, I don't care if you do. I allowed myself to read your drivel again.
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But it appears to be headed in that direction, much like many of the previous shootings. Again, we can keep on ignoring the real problem with mass shootings involving isolated, socially awkward young men and just continue to use the red herring of gun control.
 
julius said:
you do understand how saying "aspies being aspies" is kind of offensive, and incredibly ignorant on your part?

actually, I don't care if you do. I allowed myself to read your drivel again.
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+1 for julius
 
MarAzul said:
No sir, I think not this time.
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Yeah, I said he was aspergers and he went to a school for kids with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Maybe the way I worded it was offensive but doesn't take away that in essence these mass shootings by these crazy fucking kids is because of their autism. So many similarities in these types of shootings. Some kid who can't handle their emotions goes off the deep end and kills with no remorse.

Not saying all asperger kids are crazy like this, but people are just overlooking this aspect of this issue and its extremely fucking stupid to do so.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
But it appears to be headed in that direction, much like many of the previous shootings. Again, we can keep on ignoring the real problem with mass shootings involving isolated, socially awkward young men and just continue to use the red herring of gun control.
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Now this, I think you are more than likely correct. Also note he lived with mother, no father. But I can't go along with the aspie stuff. Asperger Syndrome people are usually very high achievers,
perhaps they, in their nerdly way have spent too much time gathering information (learning) and leaving social skills for a later day, but that does not make the shooter. This one seems to
have taken atheism to the dangerous level in hate for Christians. That doesn't profile with Asperger.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Yeah, I said he was aspergers and he went to a school for kids with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Maybe the way I worded it was offensive but doesn't take away that in essence these mass shootings by these crazy fucking kids is because of their autism. So many similarities in these types of shootings. Some kid who can't handle their emotions goes off the deep end and kills with no remorse.

Not saying all asperger kids are crazy like this, but people are just overlooking this aspect of this issue and its extremely fucking stupid to do so.
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All right then! Easy on the trigger.
 
Denny Crane said:
IEDs.

Sheer numbers. 2.5M military vs. 350M+ enemies.

I bet most of the military would desert.
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Your fantasy that the entire population will rise up against the government is just that, a fantasy.
If the government ever tries to take guns away, it will be because a violent minority tries to overthrow the government.
And if that happens, most of us will side with the government, not with you.

barfo
 
julius said:
hate to break it to you, but if gun owners think they're going to stop the government with their pea shooter (by comparison) they're fucking nuts.
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If something like that were to ever happen sadly many would think they could and tons of innocent lives would be lost. It would be a dumb idea to even attempt such a thing.
 
MarAzul said:
Now this, I think you are more than likely correct. Also note he lived with mother, no father. But I can't go along with the aspie stuff. Asperger Syndrome people are usually very high achievers,
perhaps they, in their nerdly way have spent too much time gathering information (learning) and leaving social skills for a later day, but that does not make the shooter. This one seems to
have taken atheism to the dangerous level in hate for Christians. That doesn't profile with Asperger.
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People with Autism Spectrum Disorders often have emotional control issues. People with aspergers have their minds going at a million miles a minute. Sure, they are geniuses, but many are still very awkward and emotional. They are overanalyzing everything, small slights that most people ignore, they form this crazy story about. Look at many of the previous young male shooters. What is the link? I think its either being heavily medicated with Anti-Depressants or autism that went the fuck out of control.

Elliot Rogers the Santa Barbara shooter had Aspergers as did Adam Lanza the colorado movie theatre. Probably more that were undiagnosed, ignored, or whatever. I think that asian dude at virginia tech did too.

But yeah, go ahead and ignore the part of Autism where people are emotionally weird for sometimes no reason at all and say yeah, it was just radical atheism and access to guns.
 
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barfo said:
Your fantasy that the entire population will rise up against the government is just that, a fantasy.
If the government ever tries to take guns away, it will be because a violent minority tries to overthrow the government.
And if that happens, most of us will side with the government, not with you.

barfo
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That's your fantasy.

LOL
 
barfo said:
most of us will side with the government, not with you.
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Ha! Oh barfo, you will be in so much trouble! Do you even suspect how many lists will have barfo! Yes in bold.
 
Denny Crane said:
That's your fantasy.

LOL
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No, actually, I don't think anything at all is going to happen, other than a bunch more whining about how government is evil.

If you've got the guns and the balls, and all of America is behind you, then why haven't you done anything yet?

Seven years of Obama, the "worst president ever", a socialist fascist marxist Kenyan Muslim, and you've done nothing. NOTHING!

So why should I believe you that you ever will do anything?

barfo
 
Yes I agree. And they lack the father to help them through the transition to manhood.
I took the Asperger test, damn near a perfect score. Most INTP people will pass the test.
 
MarAzul said:
Yes I agree. And they lack the father to help them through the transition to manhood.
I took the Asperger test, damn near a perfect score. Most INTP people will pass the test.
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We can go into a whole another thing about his hyphenated last name.
 
barfo said:
No, actually, I don't think anything at all is going to happen, other than a bunch more whining about how government is evil.

If you've got the guns and the balls, and all of America is behind you, then why haven't you done anything yet?

barfo
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The strategy seems to be to erode 2nd amendment rights whenever there is an opportunity.

Fortunately, the law is on my side in this and the bad guys you support get their rules overturned. Thank goodness.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
People with Autism Spectrum Disorders often have emotional control issues. People with aspergers have their minds going at a million miles a minute. Sure, they are geniuses, but many are still very awkward and emotional. They are overanalyzing everything, small slights that most people ignore, they form this crazy story about. Look at many of the previous young male shooters. What is the link? I think its either being heavily medicated with Anti-Depressants or autism that went the fuck out of control.

Elliot Rogers the Santa Barbara shooter had Aspergers as did Adam Lanza the colorado movie theatre. Probably more that were undiagnosed, ignored, or whatever. I think that asian dude at virginia tech did too.

But yeah, go ahead and ignore the part of Autism where people are emotionally weird for sometimes no reason at all and say yeah, it was just radical atheism and access to guns.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
We can go into a whole another thing about his hyphenated last name.
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Well, I don't know enough to say any more.
 
barfo said:
No, actually, I don't think anything at all is going to happen, other than a bunch more whining about how government is evil.
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Even if it isn't now, couldnt it someday be evil? Would it be impossible to fathom the military overthrowing the government in the next 100 years? 200 years?

That's the point. Sure we don't "need" guns now. Its not just about now. If you really think that it's impossible, that war on American soil is impossible to ever happen...that's just silly.
 
Mediocre Man said:
The lack of medical attention for mental disorders in this country is awful

With all these shootings, bi-polar disorder, depression, aspergers, etc. Are at the root. I'd bet almost anything
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The lack of laws to keep guns out of their hands is worse. Take a gun out of his hands and how bad of harm can he do?
 
Now, if we could make every gun in the world dissapear overnight, and make them impossible to ever build again? I'm all for it.

Not holding my breath.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Even if it isn't now, couldnt it someday be evil? Would it be impossible to fathom the military overthrowing the government in the next 100 years? 200 years?

That's the point. Sure we don't "need" guns now. Its not just about now. If you really think that it's impossible, that war on American soil is impossible to ever happen...that's just silly.
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Military overthrowing the government - sure. That's a different and much worse scenario though, because then you almost surely don't have Denny's fantasy of most of the military defecting to the citizens. And in that scenario, the military is free to use it's overwhelming force against the population (since it is calling the shots, and since shooting is what it knows how to do).

200 years? Do you really think your gun is going to be relevant in a war 200 years from now?

barfo
 
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