Should Blazers work out a trade with Hawks? (Merged threads)

[OregonHuskerMan]

I wonder if ATL completely whiffs in free agency and dedicates to a full and complete rebuild, if they'd be open to trading Horford, as he is 27, and I'm not sure he'd want to go through a complete rebuild.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Something like that, possibly.

This is purely speculation, no link or source or anything. Just spit balling.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I can't see your trade. What was it?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Amusing--ESPN's trade machine now lists Aldridge as a center. He should write them a sternly-worded letter.

 

[OregonHuskerMan]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

It was Batum Meyers and Barton for Al Horford

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

It was Batum Meyers and Barton for Al Horford

I would sooooooo do that!

Then spend our load on Iggy.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I would sooooooo do that!

Then spend our load on Iggy.

Well sure, but why would Atlanta? If they're going to have an 8 figure salary on their books while they're rebuilding, wouldn't they rather have Horford than Batum+?

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Well sure, but why would Atlanta? If they're going to have an 8 figure salary on their books while they're rebuilding, wouldn't they rather have Horford than Batum+?

Thanks for ruining my day!

 

[OregonHuskerMan]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Well sure, but why would Atlanta? If they're going to have an 8 figure salary on their books while they're rebuilding, wouldn't they rather have Horford than Batum+?

Why is that? Batum is younger and makes less.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Why is that? Batum is younger and makes less.

3 years younger, only owed $800K less total over the next three years, and Horford is simply a better player than Batum. The cost disparity isn't enough to override the talent disparity.

 

[tlongII]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Horford? You gotta be kidding! He would not "move the needle".

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Horford? You gotta be kidding! He would not "move the needle".

Are you serious? An All-Star big man doesn't move the needle?

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Horford? You gotta be kidding! He would not "move the needle".

Lmao!!!! You put horford next to Aldridge and they will definitely move the needle. Also; if that did happen; then you use cap space to get Iggy or someone of that type of value. Maybe get a veteran wing and big

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I am soooo into this possibility! This would be an epic move. Also batum is a good young player for Atlanta to build around. They need to start with a wing then move from there. If they somehow tanked enough to get wiggins; the batum/wiggins combo is a strong core.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I am soooo into this possibility! This would be an epic move. Also batum is a good young player for Atlanta to build around. They need to start with a wing then move from there. If they somehow tanked enough to get wiggins; the batum/wiggins combo is a strong core.

If we had a guaranteed 2014 pick, I think we could make it happen, but we don't. We might lose our pick to Charlotte. I just don't know if I see ATL moving Horford without getting something good back.

 

[OregonHuskerMan]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

3 years is a lot for a rebuilding Franchise. Plus they get Meyers and Barton. May even have to toss Wes in. Then use the money that will. E freed up on Tony Allen and a new SF. Horford is a legit needle moved at C. I justdoubt they do it

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

3 years is a lot for a rebuilding Franchise. Plus they get Meyers and Barton. May even have to toss Wes in. Then use the money that will. E freed up on Tony Allen and a new SF. Horford is a legit needle moved at C. I justdoubt they do it

I don't know if I would give up Wes too. I would much rather use him in another trade.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I think ATL might do it. Batum and Leonard are a couple nice young pieces. They would definitely fit a "rebuild" mold.

The only thing is, you move those guys for a center, it leaves a huge gaping hole at small forward. Let's say we sign Iggy with our cap space (or most of our cap space), can he play SF? Maybe move Matthews for someone like Thad Young.

So Horford for Batum/Leonard/Barton

Sign Iggy for 4/40

Trade Matthews/Draft pick for Thad Young.

Lillard/McCollum
Iggy/Crabbe
Young/Claver
Aldridge/Freeland
Horford/O'Neal?

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I think ATL might do it. Batum and Leonard are a couple nice young pieces. They would definitely fit a "rebuild" mold.

The only thing is, you move those guys for a center, it leaves a huge gaping hole at small forward. Let's say we sign Iggy with our cap space (or most of our cap space), can he play SF? Maybe move Matthews for someone like Thad Young.

So Horford for Batum/Leonard/Barton

Sign Iggy for 4/40

Trade Matthews/Draft pick for Thad Young.

Lillard/McCollum
Iggy/Crabbe
Young/Claver
Aldridge/Freeland
Horford/O'Neal?

I think Iggy was a sf until he went to Denver. He's not getting 10 mil per. I would think around 8.5-9 mil at most.

We would have 2-3 mil left to use in a lopsided trade with Matthews.

Maybe even tossing the idea of Iggy and go with tony Allen.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I think Iggy was a sf until he went to Denver. He's not getting 10 mil per. I would think around 8.5-9 mil at most.

We would have 2-3 mil left to use in a lopsided trade with Matthews.

Maybe even tossing the idea of Iggy and go with tony Allen.

Voodoo is saying Allen wants 6 million per. I don't see how we could afford Allen AND Iggy. I would love it, but unless we dump someone like Matthews for nothing, I don't see us having the cap space.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Voodoo is saying Allen wants 6 million per. I don't see how we could afford Allen AND Iggy. I would love it, but unless we dump someone like Matthews for nothing, I don't see us having the cap space.

I was saying one or the other.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

I was saying one or the other.

It's hard to gauge the value of Iggy because there aren't very many All-Star caliber wings available (if any) this summer. I think he'll get 4/40.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

It's hard to gauge the value of Iggy because there aren't very many All-Star caliber wings available (if any) this summer. I think he'll get 4/40.

Then is rather spend my money on Allen and oj mayo combo. Instant offense and awesome d

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Then is rather spend my money on Allen and oj mayo combo. Instant offense and awesome d

I would just take Allen. His offense is improving and we can't bring in two SG's even if we trade Matthews.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Then is rather spend my money on Allen and oj mayo combo. Instant offense and awesome d

That won't work either. Allen wants six million and I'd bet Mayo wants closer to 8 million.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

That won't work either. Allen wants six million and I'd bet Mayo wants closer to 8 million.

Then fuck mayo

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

Then fuck mayo

If we could get Allen to accept something like 4/20 million, and Mayo to take 5/30 million, I would definitely go for that. Then trade Matthews/Leonard for Asik.

Lillard/McCollum
Mayo/Allen
Batum/Claver
Aldridge/Freeland
Asik/O'Neal??

 

[magnifier661]

Re: ATL Hawks Strike Out in FA - Complete Rebuild?

If we could get Allen to accept something like 4/20 million, and Mayo to take 5/30 million, I would definitely go for that. Then trade Matthews/Leonard for Asik.

Lillard/McCollum
Mayo/Allen
Batum/Claver
Aldridge/Freeland
Asik/O'Neal??

That would definitely move the needle

 

[MarAzul]

I like Horford! Maybe it's time.

It might be possible. Start the Trade!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kd7v9dj

 

[RR7]

Re: I like Horford! Maybe it's time.

ban

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Re: I like Horford! Maybe it's time.

ban

Why? I can't even see the trade and I can tell you that there have been far worse trades proposed in here.