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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Someone was actually paying attention during those corporate touchy feely, kumbaya training sessions……..
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Those were so boring...the one we had annually was on Sexual Harassment & Discrimination, talk about overkill. Did it for Corp insurance reason's Im convinced. Those boys form the south couldnt come into the office anymore go up to an inside gal, rub her shoulders, and say "hey Darlin I appreciate all you do for me in the field". Most corporate gals loved that southern charm, it was the egotistical dude from the NE they had to be careful of.
 
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Last weekend heard Cleve Jones, lifelong activist. His comment on corporate diversity, congratulations, you can now be your authentic self while plundering and pillaging the planet.
 
RR7 said:
Holy hell, I know I'm not sitting through 9:30 minutes of that pedo talking.
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Um, wtf JP Sears as a Pedo? Do you have like, you know, some actual proof or is that a half-baked idea that went off half-cocked?
 
I like what Afrika Brooke wrote about the "cult of wokeness' and its corporate capture (hint: that's the reason it's popular, it's being used by racist transnational companies as virtue signalling, meanwhile it's kept at the level of white men are bad, but big business and their owners, including those owned by white men like Bill Gates, Terry McAullife and George Soros are GOOD). It's all social engineering like all the stuff that catches fire and is repeated ad nauseum. It's all social engineering to turn us against one another so the Davos World Economic Forum Billionaires can push their agenda forward unopposed. Davos, a group of rich (mostly) white men is somehow good if we are allowed to talk about them at all. Any criticism of them is conspiracy theory don't ya know! Cause the REAL oppressors aren't the ULTRA WEALTHY, it's that dirt poor redneck who lives in the shack on the corner. I mean he has a TRUMP sign for godsakes! He's not a good man like Billionaire Bill Gates or Billionaire George Soros. Old white men are only bad when they are POOR and POWERLESS. The wealthy elite ones with power, they are all good guys! So says the media they own!

https://ckarchive.com/b/d0ueh0h67mpd
 
Texas public museum cancelled a presentation on a new book Forgetting the Alamo. I have not yet read it but purportedly it discusses racial mythology around the Alamo. Presentation was not "critical race theory", was not for children and attendance was purely voluntary. But Texas Republican governor and lieutenant governor protested. People might have a chance to hear a different view on history. Can't be permitted.
 
crandc said:
Texas public museum cancelled a presentation on a new book Forgetting the Alamo. I have not yet read it but purportedly it discusses racial mythology around the Alamo. Presentation was not "critical race theory", was not for children and attendance was purely voluntary. But Texas Republican governor and lieutenant governor protested. People might have a chance to hear a different view on history. Can't be permitted.
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Are any wealthy individuals or families having any impact when their families were the drivers of all of this? Or just regular folks and a fractured society? It sure doesn't seem that any of the VAST legacy wealth of Slave Owners and Banks will be touched. Perhaps regular people will be taxed for reparations, but the McConnell's and Rockefellers of the world will continue to benefit off their historical ill-gotten gains.

If CRT was focused on the elites who gained 99% of the benefit rather than fracturing society at the level of the working poor, I'd be more interested. I'm well aware of the genocide, redlining, Tuskegee experiments and all the rest and it is abominable. This sudden fascination with CRT and BLM by Trillion-dollar corporations like Coca-Cola and Nike, is not something I trust to be, for the benefit of society. Nobody thinks it's odd that companies that engage in slave labor all over the world suddenly care about and are funding racial "conversations" in America? No wonder people are so easy to socially engineer. It's 100% clear to me CRT and all the rest is here to get regular folks fighting while the last of our rights and wealth are taken. This will be readily apparent soon, when it's far too late.
 
Idog1976 said:
Are any wealthy individuals or families having any impact when their families were the drivers of all of this? Or just regular folks and a fractured society? It sure doesn't seem that any of the VAST legacy wealth of Slave Owners and Banks will be touched. Perhaps regular people will be taxed for reparations, but the McConnell's and Rockefellers of the world will continue to benefit off their historical ill-gotten gains.

If CRT was focused on the elites who gained 99% of the benefit rather than fracturing society at the level of the working poor, I'd be more interested. I'm well aware of the genocide, redlining, Tuskegee experiments and all the rest and it is abominable. This sudden fascination with CRT and BLM by Trillion-dollar corporations like Coca-Cola and Nike, is not something I trust to be, for the benefit of society. Nobody thinks it's odd that companies that engage in slave labor all over the world suddenly care about and are funding racial "conversations" in America? No wonder people are so easy to socially engineer. It's 100% clear to me CRT and all the rest is here to get regular folks fighting while the last of our rights and wealth are taken. This will be readily apparent soon, when it's far too late.
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There are a lot of "isms" to distract from greed ....people love to complain about things made outside the US while looking at a screen display made in Taiwan....driving a Chevy with a fan belt from South America...the double standard is here to stay and pretty much has been our entire lives...the documentary on the Titans, Rockefeller, Carnegie, JP Morgan, etc is a good place to start but I think all schools of thought should be allowed to teach CRT if there's even a percieved curiosity about the content and study of it. I feel the same about bible study...I don't need it but it helps a lot of people apparently... Just watched "Best Enemies" on Netflix and I'd show that movie in schools to outline true american history and the racism it sprouted from...brilliant film. The important word here is "theory".....just like "string theory" in physics, it doesn't hurt to have exposure to alternative ways of thinking...we haven't evolved beyond racial problems yet so we can imagine a perfect world free of it's existence but its the children of today who will use creative thought to resolve it , not the elderly who've accepted it as the norm
 
No, critical race theory is not about getting people fighting.

It's taught in law school FFS.

But right wing media are now slapping the label onto my any damn thing. It's about getting white voters scared of scary dark people.
 
crandc said:
No, critical race theory is not about getting people fighting.

It's taught in law school FFS.

But right wing media are now slapping the label onto my any damn thing. It's about getting white voters scared of scary dark people.
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You know, the whole point of a psyops is to dupe people right? Like literally the entire point of propaganda is to convince with something that sounds reasonable but ends up leaving you vulnerable to the agendas of the propagandists. This can of course, and often does come from, academia.

Anyways, people either see it or they don't. I've worked as a social worker for almost 20 years and then retired from that. I worked primarily with people of color in the Alberta district back when that was still a mostly black part of Portland. I worked with Domestic Violence survivors and single parents. I've been anti-racist and marched with migrant workers and against kids in cages. CRT is obvious to me a constructed theory to cause friction among white people and people of color maximizing difference and hurt and not being much of a vehicle for healing and creating positive outcomes. I say this as someone with a Sociology degree who has never voted for a Republican in a National election in my life and I'm 45.

BLM, CRT, Jan 6th all are being used to cause friction and also fear of white people, strangely the opposite of what you think, in order to justify the confiscation of first firearms, and then rights and property as our increasingly fascist technocratic surveillance state really gets rolling. People will see it or they won't. If you want to know what's in store for the US should firearms be taken, look to the rest of the English-speaking world which are under tyrannical lockdowns 1000% more hardcore than anything we've had. Why? They were all disarmed first, the UK decades ago and Australia, Canada, and New Zealand in the past decade. People either see the writing on the wall or they don't.

I'm just gonna move on from this thread now.

I'm 110% for equality and equal protection under the law. I always have been and always will be. CRT isn't about that.
 
Idog1976 said:
BLM, CRT, Jan 6th all are being used to cause friction and also fear of white people
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Almost no one had ever heard of CRT until Republicans recently started babbling incoherently about it. If it's being used to cause friction, it's because the right wing has decided that's the new wedge issue.

You know, the whole point of a psyops is to dupe people right? Like literally the entire point of propaganda is to convince with something that sounds reasonable but ends up leaving you vulnerable to the agendas of the propagandists. This can of course, and often does come from, academia.
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And sometimes from the GOP. Congratulations, you got duped.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Almost no one had ever heard of CRT until Republicans recently started babbling incoherently about it. If it's being used to cause friction, it's because the right wing has decided that's the new wedge issue.



And sometimes from the GOP. Congratulations, you got duped.

barfo
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I had never heard of it before a few months ago.
 
Idog1976 said:
If you want to know what's in store for the US should firearms be taken, look to the rest of the English-speaking world which are under tyrannical lockdowns 1000% more hardcore than anything we've had. Why? They were all disarmed first, the UK decades ago and Australia, Canada, and New Zealand in the past decade. People either see the writing on the wall or they don't.
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I'm not seeing anything, from that numbskull explanation. Are you talking about coronavirus lockdowns? We should have shot our way out of the disease?
 
Idog1976 said:
I've worked as a social worker for almost 20 years and then retired from that...I say this as someone with a Sociology degree...
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Then you cashed in and became a criminal defense lawyer? Have you ever won a case? Or are you a lawyer's paperwork shuffler.
 
And yet it has been around for decades as a law school subject.

Saw interview with Republican operative who said flat out he had worked with right wing media to make critical race theory a brand and synonym for culture wars.

Race is a social not biological construct. Racial discrimination is not simply bad policies or bad people. It has been a structural part of the United States since founding, based on law and practice.
That, briefly, is critical race theory. Not even astounding.
 
There needs to be a balance taught in schools. Including crt and how to get along with people of different race, religion, politics because without the ability to do so, or the desire to so, the rest of it will be meaningless.
 
Schools can teach whatever they want, but I just need to make sure my kid ends up having all sides.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Schools can teach whatever they want, but I just need to make sure my kid ends up having all sides.
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First, again, critical race theory is taught in law school. Not grade school.

Sometimes there aren't two sides. Did you know there was a time when the New York Times, in reporting a lynching, would get a quote from Ku Klux Klan about why it was a good thing? By the 1920s they figured out there were not two sides to lynching. There are not two sides to slavery. Or Nazis.

Some things don't have two sides and some things are facts. There are still people who believe the sun revolves around the earth. Schools should not teach "both sides", to give an obvious example.
 
crandc said:
First, again, critical race theory is taught in law school. Not grade school.

Sometimes there aren't two sides. Did you know there was a time when the New York Times, in reporting a lynching, would get a quote from Ku Klux Klan about why it was a good thing? By the 1920s they figured out there were not two sides to lynching. There are not two sides to slavery. Or Nazis.

Some things don't have two sides and some things are facts. There are still people who believe the sun revolves around the earth. Schools should not teach "both sides", to give an obvious example.
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This was just a quick, random search. There's stuff like this being discussed all across our nation....

https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/05/critical-race-theory-in-wisconsin-k12-education/
 
crandc said:
First, again, critical race theory is taught in law school. Not grade school.

Sometimes there aren't two sides. Did you know there was a time when the New York Times, in reporting a lynching, would get a quote from Ku Klux Klan about why it was a good thing? By the 1920s they figured out there were not two sides to lynching. There are not two sides to slavery. Or Nazis.

Some things don't have two sides and some things are facts. There are still people who believe the sun revolves around the earth. Schools should not teach "both sides", to give an obvious example.
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Interesting. So when schools were teaching kids that the sun revolves around the earth, should they have questioned it or were there people like you who were telling them that some things are irrefutable?
 
ABM said:
This was just a quick, random search. There's stuff like this being discussed all across our nation....

https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/05/critical-race-theory-in-wisconsin-k12-education/
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The equity grant will also go towards a new curriculum for all 7th grade classes that will stress “understanding about diversity issues, including how to think globally and act locally.” The proposed curriculum is called “‘Act Like a Hummingbird,’ and references “a story about a tiny hummingbird that, despite her small size, makes a huge difference in her community by taking action and convincing other animals to join her in putting out a forest fire.”
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First of all, that's not CRT.

Secondly, does that story about a hummingbird teach kids to hate each other or whatever you think CRT does?

barfo
 

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crandc said:
Only place it is taught is law school. It's a legal concept, that racial discrimination is not about bad people or bad intentions but that laws and regulations created and reinforce racial discrimination. It's not even startling. And it's true.

A Hitler loving Trumper doesn't want anyone to learn about racism, what a shock.

Critical race theory is 2021 version of Sharia law. Remember when all those state legislatures were banning Sharia law? No one was proposing Sharia law be implemented in the US and none of these legislators even knew what was in Sharia law. It was just whip up fear of scary brown people so white folks will vote for Republicans to protect them. No one is teaching critical race theory in kindergarten, but all of a sudden Fox and other right wing media are running literally thousands of stories.

But college classes on race in American history are being cancelled (is that cancel culture?) Idaho seriously proposed teachers wear body cams so they could be monitored. States are prohibiting saying slave owners were bad people.
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ftfy. Im stunned you let that get by!
 
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