Should the Blazers re-sign Jusuf Nurkic this summer?

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

We can't afford not to. Shit, we can't even afford to lose Harkless.

I mean... if by the grace of god some team offered us a 2nd for Harkless...

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I think him cooling down from the season he had last year plus the salary cap not jumping as expected is going to help us. I do not think anyone throws a crazt offer at him.

The guy is still young and has room for improvement. As is, he is still the best center we have had in awhile. Not a max contract guy but definitely a keeper.

 

[BBert]

Hell yes

 

[hoopsjock]

I say package him with 1 or hopefully 2 off the albatross contracts.

Has any gm ever signed that many players to bad contracts in one offseason? I bet not.

That many? Maybe not, but the two contracts the Lakers signed (Deng and Mozgov) that same off-season were worse than the four signed by the Blazers.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

That many? Maybe not, but the two contracts the Lakers signed (Deng and Mozgov) that same off-season were worse than the four signed by the Blazers.

The only way we can get rid of Turner would be like how the Lakers got rid of Mozgov, which means packaging Collins with Turner for a Lopez brother.

 

[ripcityboy]

I think him cooling down from the season he had last year plus the salary cap not jumping as expected is going to help us. I do not think anyone throws a crazt offer at him.

The guy is still young and has room for improvement. As is, he is still the best center we have had in awhile. Not a max contract guy but definitely a keeper.

I may want to dislike Olshey, but he is decent at putting together lineups together of mostly second level talent. Nurk, Collins and Harkless arent a terrible lineup for the future. I just think Olshey's ego gets in the way regarding his valuation skills and the players he drafts. But a lot of his methods are fine. Like the Nurkic contract was a perfect one to trade for. He was looking for a team and we were looking for a center. It's just when it comes to identifying free agents, man Neil really blows.

 

[LayneStaley]

That many? Maybe not, but the two contracts the Lakers signed (Deng and Mozgov) that same off-season were worse than the four signed by the Blazers.

It’s easier to unload or work around 2 than 4(5 actually but 1 never played a game for us) 2 years after the lakers and blazers signed all those bad contracts the lakers now have the best cap situation in the league heading into next year, where we still have the 5th highest payroll.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The only way we can get rid of Turner would be like how the Lakers got rid of Mozgov, which means packaging Collins with Turner for a Lopez brother.

Yeah People said that last year about Crabbe.
Huge difference between Mozgov and ET. Teams did not want Mozgov regardless of his contract. ET on the other hand can help teams. He may or may not fit in a Stotts system, and his contract is an issue, but at least he can play.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Yeah People said that last year about Crabbe.
Huge difference between Mozgov and ET. Teams did not want Mozgov regardless of his contract. ET on the other hand can help teams. He may or may not fit in a Stotts system, and his contract is an issue, but at least he can play.

Yeah but you also have to factor in that Russell can really play and Zach can only kinda play so it evens out

 

[hoopsjock]

It’s easier to unload or work around 2 than 4(5 actually but 1 never played a game for us) 2 years after the lakers and blazers signed all those bad contracts the lakers now have the best cap situation in the league heading into next year, where we still have the 5th highest payroll.

Well the Lakers haven't made the playoffs since 2013. I don't know how you can applaud them for wasting a #2 pick in the draft just to dump a contract that was signed just one year prior. That is the type of move that would devastate a franchise like the Blazers. Who cares about where the two teams are at payroll wise, the Blazers can't attract big free agents anyway. Neither can the Lakers lately either.

The Blazers unloaded a bad one for a smaller bad contract. The Lakers had to trade Russell to get rid of theirs.

Deng's contract is worse than Turner's contract because he can't even play anymore.

The Harkless and Leonard contracts wouldn't even look that bad without Turner's contract.

You can't count a one year deal as a bad contract. It didn't work out but it didn't saddle the team either.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Yeah but you also have to factor in that Russell can really play and Zach can only kinda play so it evens out

I guess it's personal preference. Not a Russell fan at all. I live in LA and I think Laker fans were glad to get rid of him. Zach on the other hand has no locker room issues and shows a lot of potential.

 

[hoopsjock]

I guess it's personal preference. Not a Russell fan at all. I live in LA and I think Laker fans were glad to get rid of him. Zach on the other hand has no locker room issues and shows a lot of potential.

Well he has been pretty good when healthy this year. I think the issue is that they used a #2 pick on him and that he was traded two years later. Can you imagine in 2008 having to trade Aldridge to get rid of a bad contract that was just signed in 2007?

 

[e_blazer]

Definitely not. We should keep all of the cap space he won’t free up to use on a free agent center who won’t sign here.

 

[blazerkor]

I think Collins, Davis and Nurkic are our front court rotation for the next 4+ years. We match anything for Nurk and try to get Ed on the cheap. Starting Collins next to Nurk beginning next season could be great for our defense and still give us versatility offensively.

 

[Driew]

I think Collins, Davis and Nurkic are our front court rotation for the next 4+ years. We match anything for Nurk and try to get Ed on the cheap. Starting Collins next to Nurk beginning next season could be great for our defense and still give us versatility offensively.

Curious to see if our MLE that we gained by getting under the threshold is enough to resign Ed.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Here for 48 hrs and already have a fan base going

Fan bases and lynch mobs are not the same thing FYI.

Just pointing that out for thosse who are unaware.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Since we didn't try to trade him at the deadline (or couldn't get value for him); then we now have more time to evaluate his consistency and find out if there are any lifestyle factors affecting his stamina. Then a decision can be made.

 

[hoopsjock]

Curious to see if our MLE that we gained by getting under the threshold is enough to resign Ed.

Re-signing Davis would occur after the new league starts. The tax for this year doesn't change what MLE will be available this summer. The only thing it did was not start the repeater tax clock.

We can sign Davis to any contract regardless of the MLE.

 

[tester551]

Curious to see if our MLE that we gained by getting under the threshold is enough to resign Ed.

Don't need the MLE to resign Ed. Portland has his bird rights

 

[BlayZa]

I started making a reply here but it was apparently so blasphemous that my computer crashed as I was writing it!
Nurk is definitely not helping the offense. Can he be coached and become better? I hope so but it's not a definite. On defense it looks as if he is a big benefit a lot of the time, others not.
My thinking is that Olshey (and Allen) are a little gunshy right now about taking on another big contract for an unproven guy. I understand their reluctance and personally, if I could get a good return, I would trade him now.

we do not have a great record of coaching big men to become better. if anything we are experts in taking big men skills and destroying them beyond all recognition.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Nurk's future with the Blazers was decided during Lillard's secret meeting with Paul Allen.

I thought Nurk's future was decided in this forum amongst the majority of the fan base.

 

[Mr. Robot]

NO!

I want him to sign with LAL and win championship there

Ball - Ingram - PG13 - LeBron - Nurk

whats not to love

 

[Pinwheel1]

As was mentioned we don't need the MLE to re-sign Ed, and it is a good thing because it would not be enough. No need to break the bank for him but he will need to be making more than Meyers. I am thinking 11-12 per.

As for Nurk I would pay him about 14-16 per year.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I think Collins, Davis and Nurkic are our front court rotation for the next 4+ years. We match anything for Nurk and try to get Ed on the cheap. Starting Collins next to Nurk beginning next season could be great for our defense and still give us versatility offensively.

This. From your mouth to God’s....or NO’s ears............

 

[Blazinaway]

for me it is a matter of cost, I and others ad nauseum have talked about much less capspace being available this summer and a lot of C's available and the fact that the importance of "traditional C's" has diminished considerably in this small ball era, so I would not overpay Nurk at all, I said months ago and I see no reason to change - somewhere in the 12-15 mil per range IMO is reasonable as he has been pretty inconsistent this yr

 

[tlongII]

We have to match whatever Nurk is offered. The amount doesn’t matter.

 

[Denny Crane]

As was mentioned we don't need the MLE to re-sign Ed, and it is a good thing because it would not be enough. No need to break the bank for him but he will need to be making more than Meyers. I am thinking 11-12 per.

As for Nurk I would pay him about 14-16 per year.

I don't think there are enough buyers in the market to drive up Ed's price. He's likely to get a few offers within the MLE range.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't think there are enough buyers in the market to drive up Ed's price. He's likely to get a few offers within the MLE range.

Maybe you are right. But it still needs to be above the MLE just in case. Too many teams can offer that. I think he wants to stay, but that will change if we insult him by low balling him. And paying Meyers more is an insult. So at least move Leonard first and argue temporary insanity.

 

[Denny Crane]

Maybe you are right. But it still needs to be above the MLE just in case. Too many teams can offer that. I think he wants to stay, but that will change if we insult him by low balling him. And paying Meyers more is an insult. So at least move Leonard first and argue temporary insanity.

I don't think you lowball him at all. You tell him, "go get your best offer and we'll match."

 

[CupWizier]

Maybe you are right. But it still needs to be above the MLE just in case. Too many teams can offer that. I think he wants to stay, but that will change if we insult him by low balling him. And paying Meyers more is an insult. So at least move Leonard first and argue temporary insanity.

Nurkic has 3 choices.

Sign the qualifying offer and become an unrestricted free agent the following year

Sign with the Blazers

Sign a qualifying offer in which the Blazers can match

So in essence, Nurkic isn't going anywhere unless the Blazers choose to let him go.