Should we pursue Kyrie Irving?

[e_blazer]

Fuck, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That whiny little bitch is forcing his way out of a winning situation in CLE and completely fucking over the organization that drafted him, committed over $100 million to him, and got him a ring, because he's jealous of one of his teammates, who happens to be the greatest player of his entire generation.

Other than leadership, he's completely redundant with Dame, and he's already admitted he's jealous of Dame. If he's not happy winning rings with LeBron in CLE, no way in fuck would he be happy playing second banana to Dame here. He would be an absolute cancer.

Winning supposedly cures everything - unless you're Kyrie Irving.

BNM

Don't hold back, BNM. Tell us how you really feel.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yes, Lillard should pursue Kyrie.

Then steal the ball and dunk on him.

 

[Natebishop3]

N.

O.

/Thread

Neil Olshey?

 

[dviss1]

Neil Olshey?

What part of no don't you understand? The N or the O?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Don't hold back, BNM. Tell us how you really feel.

There is no way he'd come here and no way we'd want him.

I get that people are bored and want to discuss hypothetical trades, but this one makes no sense and has zero chance of happening.

BNM

 

[riverman]

forcing his way out of a winning situation in CLE and completely fucking over the organization

He absolutely should become a Spur with Lamarcus....

 

[Minstrel]

Why would we want Kyrie Irving when we can just develop the young guys??

 

[riverman]

I'm a Swanigan fanigan now....Kyrie is dead to me......him and his flat world

 

[Natebishop3]

If it somehow doesn't cost us Dame, CJ, Caleb or Nurkic.

Think about having Dame, CJ and Kyrie. Might be a bit too much, but we'd have the best guard rotation in the league

I love that Biggie has made the "untouchables" list.

 

[Minstrel]

I love that Biggie has made the "untouchables" list.

I think all four guys have also already locked up having their jerseys retired.

 

[blue9]

Spurs could send Patty Mills and Tony Parker for Kyrie...Miami could send Dragic...they'll get better offers than we will offer unless we swap CJ and I wouldn't do that for him

I'm sorry, but these are your examples of "better offers"? LOL!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

No.

Except maybe for sport. You know, "The Most Dangerous Game" style.

 

[e_blazer]

There is no way he'd come here and no way we'd want him.

I get that people are bored and want to discuss hypothetical trades, but this one makes no sense and has zero chance of happening.

BNM

For the record, when it comes to this idea put me down in the,


Camp.

 

[Minstrel]

We could trade for Irving (as long as we're not giving up any of Swanigan, Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, Harkless or Collins, in that order) and then play an extreme small ball lineup:

PG: Lillard
SG: McCollum
SF: Irving
PF: Harkless
C: Aminu

Even the Warriors would be perplexed!

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

We could trade for Irving (as long as we're not giving up any of Swanigan, Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, Harkless or Collins, in that order) and then play an extreme small ball lineup:

PG: Lillard
SG: McCollum
SF: Irving
PF: Harkless
C: Aminu

Even the Warriors would be perplexed!

I was thinking we trade Harkless for Irving, Nurk for Chris Paul and Swanigan for John Wall.

That would be interesting.

 

[BonesJones]

Smh

 

[BigGameDamian]

I don't think we need to add him to this roster. We'd be better off pursuing someone who is a much better fit and who has a better attitude.

You mean someone that is NOT a star?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You mean someone that is NOT a star?

No--someone who is NOT another defensively-challenged 6'3" PG. We've got enough of those already.

 

[Minstrel]

I was thinking we trade Harkless for Irving, Nurk for Chris Paul and Swanigan for John Wall.

That would be interesting.

Harkless for a malcontent, Nurk for an aging veteran and Swanigan for...anyone? No thanks.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Harkless for a malcontent, Nurk for an aging veteran and Swanigan for...anyone? No thanks.

5 star guards. Winning would be guaranteed.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

5 star guards.

and 1 DJ!

 

[riverman]

I think all four guys have also already locked up having their jerseys retired.

3 peat!

 

[Blazinaway]

I don't think we need to add him to this roster. We'd be better off pursuing someone who is a much better fit and who has a better attitude.

I think our best chance to improve is to try to get involved in a 3 or 4 team trade with Kyrie/Love possibly moving and perhaps Carmelo still as well. Boston while having a lot of talent has a weird/unbalanced roster and needs to do some consolidation as well. There "might" be opportunities there

 

[Boob-No-More]

You mean someone that is NOT a star?

No, someone who wants to be here and fits in with our roster.

BNM

 

[Denny Crane]

We could have had DRose for nothing but luxury tax (as it stands now). He looked good last year for the first time since his career wrecking injury. He's most definitely a hard worker and a good teammate, from what I saw of him. Even hurt, he was still a really good PG at worst. I bet he'd love it in Portland.

He's going to earn a big paycheck, in theory, by putting up good numbers on a good team, and being a key member of that team.

I think the Cavs are done after this season, though.

 

[Sarni]

We could have had DRose for nothing but luxury tax (as it stands now). He looked good last year for the first time since his career wrecking injury. He's most definitely a hard worker and a good teammate, from what I saw of him. Even hurt, he was still a really good PG at worst. I bet he'd love it in Portland.

He's going to earn a big paycheck, in theory, by putting up good numbers on a good team, and being a key member of that team.

I think the Cavs are done after this season, though.

It depends whether Irving leaves or not. He has a contract for three more seasons so Cavs don't really need to let him go for poor return. Maybe they will wait and see if he can figure it out again with James and the rest. They certainly should not be rushing into any decision, unless they get offered a great package IMO they won't trade him now. Best packages they can now get are IMO Wiggins + Dieng from Minnesota, Bledsoe + Warren from Phoenix, Murray + Aldridge from San Antonio and Dragic + Winslow from Miami. All of them are IMO good enough to get disgruntled Kyrie but question is whether any of these teams will put them on the table. Got a feeling they will all try to lowball Cleveland.

 

[Minstrel]

It depends whether Irving leaves or not. He has a contract for three more seasons so Cavs don't really need to let him go for poor return.

Two more seasons, really, since Irving has an opt-out on the third year, but that doesn't really negate your point. That said, the Bulls seemed to feel some urgency in dealing Butler despite two years remaining. If Irving and Bron really are at odds (and while I don't really buy that "I want to knock him out" thing, I would expect some sore feelings when Irving is fingering James as the reason he wants out) then I don't really see them forcing the two to co-exist for a year. Then again, it is Dan Gilbert's team so you never know.

 

[Sarni]

Two more seasons, really, since Irving has an opt-out on the third year, but that doesn't really negate your point. That said, the Bulls seemed to feel some urgency in dealing Butler despite two years remaining. If Irving and Bron really are at odds (and while I don't really buy that "I want to knock him out" thing, I would expect some sore feelings when Irving is fingering James as the reason he wants out) then I don't really see them forcing the two to co-exist for a year. Then again, it is Dan Gilbert's team so you never know.

True. Butler went for admittedly a lot less than anybody though he would, although in the hindsight that deal does not look THAT terrible for Bulls - it only does because we expected them to get a lot, lot more. I don't know why Bulls wanted that deal to happen so quick though, they could have still waited and got a better return. I still don't get why Celtics did not get him.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[MarAzul]

Irving @ SF?