Shout out to Fez And Rasta!!!!

[Orion Bailey]

I just want to say..

THANKS!!! If it weren't for you two, I would literally know nothing about the draft and college players.

I know many people are up on the info, but you two? WOW!!!
I still don't comment in those threads much because I would look like a fool talking about what I don't know, or just repeating others. But man, have I learned a lot about the players coming out and how the draft works in general...

THANKS GUYS!!!!!

HUGE bonus to this forum if you ask me.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I still don't comment in those threads much because I would look like a fool talking about what I don't know, or just repeating others.

dont let that stop you, it doesnt stop anyone else! (me included)

 

[Orion Bailey]

dont let that stop you, it doesn't stop anyone else! (me included)

Lol, It usually doesnt, but I try not to be blatantly ignorant all the time.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Fooled another one!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Not a problem! Just don't buy Rasta's anti-Kristaps propaganda.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Now if only (at least) one of them cared about US College players.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Now if only (at least) one of them cared about US College players.

Give us a top 3 pick and I'll have cause to care. (And, hey, I'll take just about any US college player who's been projected a first rounder over Porzingis.) But if you're picking at 23, then disproportionately your chance of getting a good player is by draft and stash.

PLUS: my favorite part of the game is passing, and US players just aren't programmed to think pass first the way that young Euros (who enter a club system at age 12 sometimes) are.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

The only thing I know about the draft is that it's cheap at Pineway Golf Course.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Just don't buy Rasta's anti-Kristaps propaganda.

How about you buy this guy's:

The reality is that Porzingis was a 20-minute per game player for a Spanish team that failed to make the playoffs and did not have an American at his position. American coach Scott Roth, a former NBA player who had multiple stints as an NBA assistant, was fired in January and essentially paid the price for giving Porzingis a bigger role instead of building a team that could reach the postseason.
Last season, Dario Saric played on a Cibona team that was struggling financially and didn’t have the strongest roster. But Saric was able to put the team on his back and singlehandedly lead it to great heights. If you have the type of length and mobility of Porzingis, what excuse do you have for grabbing three rebounds or fewer in 19 of 50 games this season, especially when you are second on your team in minutes?
ESPN draft expert Chad Ford said that if Porzingis were in college this past season, “I have no doubt – and a number of scouts have said this – we’d be talking about him as a potential No. 1.”
To be honest, I would say absolutely the opposite. If Porzingis played in college and had lost in the first round of the NCAA Tournament, maybe he would be going back to school because he didn’t think he would be a lottery pick. I don’t buy the idea that he would have been as dominant as Towns, Jahlil Okafor and Frank Kaminsky were in college this season. I would even go one step further and say that if Hezonja played for Sevilla instead of Porzingis, Sevilla would have made the playoffs and Hezonja would’ve been on the All-ACB First Team.

Not to mention:



So the guys who aren't so high on KP are, y'know, the guys who follow European basketball...

 

[magnifier661]

No calling out posters in the thread title!!!!

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Give us a top 3 pick and I'll have cause to care. (And, hey, I'll take just about any US college player who's been projected a first rounder over Porzingis.) But if you're picking at 23, then disproportionately your chance of getting a good player is by draft and stash.

PLUS: my favorite part of the game is passing, and US players just aren't programmed to think pass first the way that young Euros (who enter a club system at age 12 sometimes) are.

http://www.nba.com/blazers/projected-draft-candidates

Yet the few they are looking at are American based...

 

[oldfisherman]

No calling out posters in the thread title!!!!

Posters not from earth are exempt.

 

[LameR]

dont let that stop you, it doesnt stop anyone else! (me included)

Definitely doesn't stop HCP.








JK, HCP you're cool and stuff.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

How about you buy this guy's:



Not to mention:



So the guys who aren't so high on KP are, y'know, the guys who follow European basketball...

When Jabari first reported that Neil wanted to move up the first player that came to mind was Mario.

But if you can trade up high enough you have to go for the player with the most upside - KRISTAPS.

Though, both are boom-or-bust prosoects. You go with the 7'2" PF who can be a go-to guy down the road.

 

[BonesJones]

It's it me or is Kristaps a more glorified version of Meyers Leonard?

 

[riverman]

Lol, It usually doesnt, but I try not to be blatantly ignorant all the time.

That quota is full already my friend..I haven't followed the draft since Luke Ridnour was drafted. Rasta is a wealth of Euro talent knowledge and Fez knows the college game really well...good shout out

 

[riverman]

No calling out posters in the thread title!!!!

Or posters with new babies who haven't slept in a few weeks!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Though, both are boom-or-bust prosoects. You go with the 7'2" PF who can be a go-to guy down the road.

Or: you go with the guy who hasn't got a glaring hole in his game. Again, name me the most successful non-rebounding big man. Porzingis isn't a 7'2" PF he's a 7'2" shooting guard.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It's it me or is Kristaps a more glorified version of Meyers Leonard?

I've never been a fan of Leonard's game, but he at least LOOKS like a center. The idea of Porzingis even trying to slow down Marc Gasol is scary. On the other hand, Porzingis blocks shots. But it's certainly true that any team with both of them on the floor at once is in trouble.

It seems to me that a lot of the excitement about Porzingis is from his athleticism. We're not used to skinny white Euros dunking like that. But David Lee was athletic when he came into the league - athleticism goes fast (a [black] guy I play pickup with was expounding this theory that white guys age faster and said their athleticism is gone by age 26. Make of that what you will) When Porzingis's jumping goes away he's Matt Bullard.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I'm sorry guys, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but everyone in here knows jack shit about this guy. Maybe I'm jaded but I've seen everyone in here be so spectacularly wrong before that heavy handed self assured prognosticatin' rings a little hollow.

You guys are both wrong though, Porkzinger is gonna be a taller Olden Polynice with better pick and roll defense and a killer crossover.

 

[riverman]

Drazen Petrovic...now that was a great Euro player

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Drazen Petrovic...now that was a great Euro player

Mario has a Drazen-esque killer instinct. Though, at the same age Drazen was averaging 40+ppg in that League.

 

[riverman]

Mario has a Drazen-esque killer instinct. Though, at the same age Drazen was averaging 40+ppg in that League.

I absolutely loved his game..if there's a Drazen clone available I'd be thrilled

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

@ByJayKing: Ford on Porzingis: "looks and plays like a cross between Dirk Nowitzki, Andrei Kirilenko and yes, Kevin Durant."

 

[Rastapopoulos]

@ByJayKing: Ford on Porzingis: "looks and plays like a cross between Dirk Nowitzki, Andrei Kirilenko and yes, Kevin Durant."

Didn't he say the same thing about Yi Jianlian?

He also called KAT a cross between Dwight Howard and Dirk Nowitzki. Let's just say he's prone to hyperbole.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Mario has a Drazen-esque killer instinct. Though, at the same age Drazen was averaging 40+ppg in that League.

Hezonja is regarded by everybody who's followed both as by far the better prospect. But as for "killer instinct" - I remember one of the things about Bargnani was that psych testing for him was supposedly off the charts on that score...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I absolutely loved his game..if there's a Drazen clone available I'd be thrilled

So we can trade him for the next Buck Williams?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

He's a cross between Xenu, Buddha and the Holy Spirit.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

He's a cross between Xenu, Buddha and the Holy Spirit.

You mean he's too good to be true?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

You mean he's too good to be true?

Just wait until Jesus reads your post.

My Gahd have mercy on your soul.