SI: Should the Blazers Consider Trading Damian Lillard?

[KingSpeed]

Also- Reggie Miller never won championship but stayed with Pacers whole career.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I disagree. I want him to play for the Blazers for 20 years and then lose him for nothing. Just like Spurs, Mavs, and Lakers have done with Duncan, Dirk, and Kobe. If Dame ever got traded, I would throw up. It'd be that upsetting to me.

Three examples. Heres a few going the other way.

Kd
Lma
Lbj

now look at what players like kawhi Nd kyrie did to thier teams when they realized nothing was going to happen with the team they were on?

I dont want Dame to leave. Ever.

I dont want to lose him for nothing in his prime either.

 

[kjironman1]

I disagree. I want him to play for the Blazers for 20 years and then lose him for nothing. Just like Spurs, Mavs, and Lakers have done with Duncan, Dirk, and Kobe. If Dame ever got traded, I would throw up. It'd be that upsetting to me.

Basketball is entertainment. You got to remember that.

 

[kjironman1]

Also- Reggie Miller never won championship but stayed with Pacers whole career.

He did but that injury his last season pretty much sealed the deal.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Basketball is entertainment. You got to remember that.

To us. Not to the players or manangement.

 

[kjironman1]

To us. Not to the players or manangement.

Well yes. To them it's a business. So two sides of a coin right?

 

[KingSpeed]

Three examples. Heres a few going the other way.

Kd
Lma
Lbj

now look at what players like kawhi Nd kyrie did to thier teams when they realized nothing was going to happen with the team they were on?

I dont want Dame to leave. Ever.

I dont want to lose him for nothing in his prime either.

He won't walk from us in his prime. He is due for supermax. He will ask for it, we will pay it. On his contract after that, he will probably take payout to help build the roster as he goes into decline (something Chris Paul should've done).

 

[wizenheimer]

Well yes. To them it's a business. So two sides of a coin right?

 

[kjironman1]

He won't walk from us in his prime. He is due for supermax. He will ask for it, we will pay it. On his contract after that, he will probably take payout to help build the roster as he goes into decline (something Chris Paul should've done).

Unless?

 

[Orion Bailey]

He won't walk from us in his prime. He is due for supermax. He will ask for it, we will pay it. On his contract after that, he will probably take payout to help build the roster as he goes into decline (something Chris Paul should've done).

If he takes a max, unless he does some sort of major payment deferal we are screwed.

 

[kjironman1]

Yep! Been that way for years.

 

[kjironman1]

If he takes a max, unless he does some sort of major payment deferal we are screwed.

@hoopsjock made some reference to that. I trust few others to explain it. I know i do not know enough about contracts to explain it. But my simple figures say it puts the team in the tax if they try to keep CJ and Nurk with Lillard on a supermax?

 

[oldmangrouch]

The problem with trading Dame right now is that it would be almost impossible to get equal value in return. That argument only holds up, however, for as long as Dame honestly wants to be here. At some point he will want to leave and the team will need to make the best of it.

 

[kjironman1]

The problem with trading Dame right now is that it would be almost impossible to get equal value in return. That argument only holds up, however, for as long as Dame honestly wants to be here. At some point he will want to leave and the team will need to make the best of it.

Right now sure. But next season they might be able to. Same thing goes for CJ.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Right now sure. But next season they might be able to. Same thing goes for CJ.

I'm firmly in the camp that roots for the name on the front of the jersey over the name on the back. IMHO, no player should ever be labeled untradable.

 

[kjironman1]

I'm firmly in the camp that roots for the name on the front of the jersey over the name on the back. IMHO, no player should ever be labeled untradable.

Exactly! Players come and go. The Team is what i am a fan of.
If they trade Lillard for westbrook and get Durant to replace a bunch of players then happen to sign Green and go on to win a championship am i gonna hate the Blazers? No! I'm gonna be happy my team won.

 

[Strenuus]

Exactly! Players come and go. The Team is what i am a fan of.
If they trade Lillard for westbrook and get Durant to replace a bunch of players then happen to sign Green and go on to win a championship am i gonna hate the Blazers? No! I'm gonna be happy my team won.

If we want to win Westbrook would be the worst option.

 

[kjironman1]

If we want to win Westbrook would be the worst option.

Please don’t take that post for anything other than what it says. Next you are gonna tell me that the contracts won’t work.
I don’t really care if it’s Chris Paul or even Blake Griffin? Even Dic Rivers could be the coach. If the Blazers win a championship then my team won a championship.

 

[kjironman1]

Yes I meant to type Dic Rivers.....

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yes I meant to type Dic Rivers.....

Can i say i meant to say tram???

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Can i say i meant to say tram???

Well KJ’s makes more sense lol

 

[BonesJones]

The problem with trading Dame right now is that it would be almost impossible to get equal value in return. That argument only holds up, however, for as long as Dame honestly wants to be here. At some point he will want to leave and the team will need to make the best of it.

Baseless statement.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Baseless statement.

Based on historical decisions by previous stars in similiar situtions?

 

[BonesJones]

Based on historical decisions by previous stars in similiar situtions?

You really think it's sensible to compare Dame to people like Kevin Durant and LaMarcus Aldridge...?

 

[Orion Bailey]

You really think it's sensible to compare Dame to people like Kevin Durant and LaMarcus Aldridge...?

Yes. Plausable he turns out like them? No. But i think it isn't sensible to think about it as a possibility. It wouldn't be prudent otherwise.
It must be taken into account with regards to long term planning.

 

[BonesJones]

Yes. Plausable he turns out like them? No. But i think it isn't sensible to think about it as a possibility. It wouldn't be prudent otherwise.
It must be taken into account with regards to long term planning.

What? Dame is nothing like this MFers, and he never will be. To say so is asinine. It's still a baseless statement to say "He'll want to leave" when all he's said is he wants to be here his whole career, and then use beta males to justify it. Nah.

 

[Orion Bailey]

What? Dame is nothing like this MFers, and he never will be. To say so is asinine. It's still a baseless statement to say "He'll want to leave" when all he's said is he wants to be here his whole career, and then use beta males to justify it. Nah.

Im not saying he will want to leave. Im saying you cNt bank on him staying.

 

[BonesJones]

Im not saying he will want to leave. Im saying you cNt bank on him staying.

Why? Because of guys he's nothing like? Also, this conversation started because I responded (and said it was a baseless statement) to someone who did say that, then you replied by disagreeing with me saying his statement was baseless...

 

[Orion Bailey]

Why? Because of guys he's nothing like? Also, this conversation started because I responded to someone who did say that...

I am only adding my opinion. I think its assinine for any team to not consider a star player leaving a treadmill team as a free agent. I dont care what the star says.
I love lillard. I believe him.

I also believed lma.

 

[BonesJones]

I am only adding my opinion. I think its assinine for any team to not consider a star player leaving a treadmill team as a free agent. I dont care what the star says.
I love lillard. I believe him.

I also believed lma.

Here was the conversation. Can't show it any more clearly than this.

At some point he will want to leave and the team will need to make the best of it.

Baseless statement.

Based on historical decisions by previous stars in similiar situtions?