Siakam Or Simmons?

[e_blazer]

Yeah, Simmons is a tough player to build around, for all his tremendous talent. You pretty much need 3-4 shooters around him (preferably four) and for Simmons to be the main ball-handler. Funny enough, while I don't think Portland should trade Lillard for him, I actually think Simmons fits reasonably well alongside CJ. CJ is also a tough fit, since he doesn't have the size to defend any position but point guard but he's not someone you want to play the actual point guard position full-time. Simmons allows CJ to defend the point guard position while not actually playing point guard (since Simmons would effectively do that). So it's funny to me that, on this forum, they're being discussed as a trade for each other.

That's pretty much the way I see it, except that if Dame really wants out, I might actually do the deal. Simmons is likely to be a problem in terms of not wanting to be in Portland, but he's under contract for the next 4 seasons and he needs to do some image restoration. I think that with CJ, Norm, and RoCo there's plenty of outside shooting available. Nurk I'm not so sure about as a fit, but presumably that could be handled through a trade if need be. If Philly threw in enough other assets, it would be a pretty solid core to build around.

 

[Blazinaway]

Neither-Nothing-Nada lets close this thread and get real! Neil the "no-deal" Olshey will do fukkin nothin except the typical dumpster dive/retread moves he has already done. Get ready for another season of RE-RUNS

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Neither-Nothing-Nada lets close this thread and get real! Neil the "no-deal" Olshey will do fukkin nothin except the typical dumpster dive/retread moves he has already done. Get ready for another season of RE-RUNS

No deal?? He traded for Powell less than 6 months ago and they re-signed him on a reasonable deal. Last year, he re-signed Hood and Melo and trades for Covington and Kanter. Not exactly dumpster diving.

 

[tykendo]

No deal?? He traded for Powell less than 6 months ago and they re-signed him on a reasonable deal. Last year, he re-signed Hood and Melo and trades for Covington and Kanter. Not exactly dumpster diving.

The Moronic Dame tread thread needs to go 1st.

 

[blazerkor]

Yeah, Simmons is a tough player to build around, for all his tremendous talent. You pretty much need 3-4 shooters around him (preferably four) and for Simmons to be the main ball-handler. Funny enough, while I don't think Portland should trade Lillard for him, I actually think Simmons fits reasonably well alongside CJ. CJ is also a tough fit, since he doesn't have the size to defend any position but point guard but he's not someone you want to play the actual point guard position full-time. Simmons allows CJ to defend the point guard position while not actually playing point guard (since Simmons would effectively do that). So it's funny to me that, on this forum, they're being discussed as a trade for each other.

I actually don't think that Simmons needs the ball in his hands to be extremely effective. Using him as a post up player. A slasher off the ball and a rim runner off the PnR seems like it would be extremely effective to get him going as a really high level scorer at the rim. Obviously he can run an offense initiating it or being a secondary play maker. If we did get him for Dame I wouldn't want to keep our older players and instead start a rebuild around Simmons as a star. Hopefully in the package for Dame we could get both Thybulle and Shake coming back because any picks from Philly would be like high second rounders.

I just posted this in another thread but if we had to trade Dame, I'd rather see if we could get Ingram, Hayes and picks from NOLA. NOLA has tons of picks so we could likely get three from them. Then with Dame off the board and us building young we could get Simmons for CJ, RoCo and a couple of the picks that came back from NOLA. Nurk would need traded because of his lack of fit with Simmons and because he'd want to be traded and we'd get good value for him as well. Norm wouldn't be traded immediately but we could feature him until we could trade him and get back some nice young pieces for him too. Ant, Nas, DJJ, Ingram, Simmons, Hayes and whatever we got from Nurk and Norm would be a really great young core that would be a huge youth movement but probably would leave close to as competitive initially as we've been recently with huge potential for growth and picks we could package together to move up for a player or players we like to add to that core.

 

[tykendo]

Neither-Nothing-Nada lets close this thread and get real! Neil the "no-deal" Olshey will do fukkin nothin except the typical dumpster dive/retread moves he has already done. Get ready for another season of RE-RUNS

No, the ASININE Dame Thread MUST GO 1st

 

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Hmm…Do I want Megan Fox or Jessica Alba?

Haha! That guy looks like he was in DC on Jan 6th.