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There's definitely douches in every Union. The guy that grieves every little nuance of the contract for example. I know way too many non-Union labor workers who have lost jobs because they had no one covering their ass when something came up.
 
questioned how? i mean ive heard the saying, but what are you trying to say?

I just explained. The only reason somebody should be happy about being treated the same as the average and the bulk is if they are below average and an underperformer. If somebody thinks of themselves as above average intelligence or performance, they must not be if they are happy to be in a union.
 
I just explained. The only reason somebody should be happy about being treated the same as the average and the bulk is if they are below average and an underperformer. If somebody thinks of themselves as above average intelligence or performance, they must not be if they are happy to be in a union.

Doubt you'll find too many people that say they want to be the best machinist, the best mechanic, the best at delivering boxes. They want decent money, paid vacations, good healthcare and the ability to take care of their family without looking over their shoulder and worrying about greedy corporate bastards possibly moving or eliminating their job.
 
I just explained. The only reason somebody should be happy about being treated the same as the average and the bulk is if they are below average and an underperformer. If somebody thinks of themselves as above average intelligence or performance, they must not be if they are happy to be in a union.

so you are smarter than everyone in a union? would you say that they are beneath you? :lol:

sorry haha
 
I just explained. The only reason somebody should be happy about being treated the same as the average and the bulk is if they are below average and an underperformer. If somebody thinks of themselves as above average intelligence or performance, they must not be if they are happy to be in a union.

That's very insulting to a great many hard working Americans. My mother was in a union for over 30yrs. She was an x-ray technician and then a CT technician. She's very intelligent and was excellent at her job. She was offered management positions a few times but she loved working with patients and doctors. She loved her job.

Just like the person who drives a bus or delivers mail, you can be happy with what you do and do an excellent job and be fine with being in a union. God bless the people who show up to work on time, work a hard day, pay their taxes and live their lives. Isn't that what this country is all about? Why suddenly it's bad to be in a union or union members are stupid or lazy is just weird. Or complaining about how much union members make or that they were given too many benefits.

From what I understand Zags likes his job and with seniority will make what most consider a good living when he gets to be a driver. He's working to move up in his company. From what I've seen when I've had packages delivered those guys work pretty damn hard. Yet because he's part of a union and he's fine with that it makes him below average and an underperformer? I say bullshit. We need more Zags in this country.
 
some people have been brainwashed into believing the only way that you have any worth as a person is if you stomp and steal until you are wealthy beyond any ability to ever spend it, and to constantly compare yourself to others and make sure you are "winning"

nobody is getting out of this game alive, so just try and enjoy the ride

well said sly
 
I think it's funny when a Republican is called out right in front of God and everybody, then the parrots go and bang on Obama.
No mention of how their candidate flip flops. Just attack attack attack. Answer the flip flop question 1st. Then Attack.
 
I know when a thread is heavy with Blazerboy30.

The scent of douche is overwhelming.

He's like the douche from 'Good Will Hunting.' But at least that character didn't pretend to be a Harvard grad.

:lol:
 
That's very insulting to a great many hard working Americans. My mother was in a union for over 30yrs. She was an x-ray technician and then a CT technician. She's very intelligent and was excellent at her job. She was offered management positions a few times but she loved working with patients and doctors. She loved her job.

Just like the person who drives a bus or delivers mail, you can be happy with what you do and do an excellent job and be fine with being in a union. God bless the people who show up to work on time, work a hard day, pay their taxes and live their lives. Isn't that what this country is all about? Why suddenly it's bad to be in a union or union members are stupid or lazy is just weird. Or complaining about how much union members make or that they were given too many benefits.

From what I understand Zags likes his job and with seniority will make what most consider a good living when he gets to be a driver. He's working to move up in his company. From what I've seen when I've had packages delivered those guys work pretty damn hard. Yet because he's part of a union and he's fine with that it makes him below average and an underperformer? I say bullshit. We need more Zags in this country.

:cheers:

Your mother is a good women.
 
Romney is a master at pandering. But is that any worse than Obama being a master of being able to relate with middle income America?


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LOL ... no bias in this statement. Obama has lost middle class America, and it's going to cost him the election.
 
I like the idea of unions and think they've done a lot of good.

I disagree they treat everyone the same as the average. They treat everyone as if they're considerably better than average.

What I dislike about unions is that they are not voluntary associations. You have to join one to work many places, even if you'd prefer to negotiate your own terms with the company instead. It's fine for the unions to run themselves democratically, but the workplace is not the government so there is no requirement that it be run democratically (e.g. 50%+1 vote to form a union, everyone has to join).
 
LOL ... no bias in this statement. Obama has lost middle class America, and it's going to cost him the election.

Borrow money from your parents and start a business!

Just buy healthcare when you're well!
 
That's very insulting to a great many hard working Americans. My mother was in a union for over 30yrs. She was an x-ray technician and then a CT technician. She's very intelligent and was excellent at her job. She was offered management positions a few times but she loved working with patients and doctors. She loved her job.

Just like the person who drives a bus or delivers mail, you can be happy with what you do and do an excellent job and be fine with being in a union. God bless the people who show up to work on time, work a hard day, pay their taxes and live their lives. Isn't that what this country is all about? Why suddenly it's bad to be in a union or union members are stupid or lazy is just weird. Or complaining about how much union members make or that they were given too many benefits.

From what I understand Zags likes his job and with seniority will make what most consider a good living when he gets to be a driver. He's working to move up in his company. From what I've seen when I've had packages delivered those guys work pretty damn hard. Yet because he's part of a union and he's fine with that it makes him below average and an underperformer? I say bullshit. We need more Zags in this country.

Neato. You just wrote a long post claiming that people in a union can like their job. Excellent strawman.

You basically proved my point by saying that "with seniority" Zaggs will move up. Those who are pro-union are fine with letting seniority, not performance, dictate their progress.
 
some people have been brainwashed into believing the only way that you have any worth as a person is if you stomp and steal until you are wealthy beyond any ability to ever spend it, and to constantly compare yourself to others and make sure you are "winning"

nobody is getting out of this game alive, so just try and enjoy the ride

well said sly


And some people have been brainwashed into thinking that the only way you can be successful is to stomp and steal. Good idea... let's vilify success and all strive to be average.
 
are you disputing what i said? read it again, i doubt it

hint = "some"
 
Well guys, it's been fun. I have to be off the internet by 8pm. My mom is calling me up from the basement for dessert. She's been making me a warm brownie and a nice tall glass of milk.
 
see you when you come up, im spending the night :wub:
 
Neato. You just wrote a long post claiming that people in a union can like their job. Excellent strawman.

You basically proved my point by saying that "with seniority" Zaggs will move up. Those who are pro-union are fine with letting seniority, not performance, dictate their progress.

Again, I'm not really exactly sure how UPS operates but "with seniority" seems like it works pretty damn well for them. You have people working in a warehouse sorting boxes and loading trucks and if they do it long enough they get to drive the truck and make more money. What system do you think would serve UPS better? Seems like a pretty good carrot to me. Show up, do your job and you can get a better job.

Having owned a delivery company I know first hand that the sorting and loading part is just as important as the actual delivery part. UPS using "seniority" has found a way to pay their employees less for that part of the job compared to the actual delivery part. An employee like Zags is happy with this arrangement, UPS is happy with this but for some strange reason this bugs you. Why?
 
An employee like Zags is happy with this arrangement, UPS is happy with this but for some strange reason this bugs you. Why?
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What does President Obama stand for on a number of issues? How have his words been reflected in his governance?

Wasn't shutting down Gitmo one of his top priorities? It's still open.

Didn't he promise to cut the deficit in half, as well as the debt? That clearly has not happened.

I could go on here, but it won't matter to "independent voters" like you.

Thanks for exactly confirming my point. It's not about what Romney believes, it's about how terrible Obama is! Down with Obama!!! And hey Obama isn't perfect, but at least he knows where he stands, unlike Etch-a-Sketch Romney.
 

BB30 and I are having a discussion. We're not name calling. Just exchanging views. There's no need to post pictures of douche bags. If you disagree with him tell him why.
 
Again, I'm not really exactly sure how UPS operates but "with seniority" seems like it works pretty damn well for them. You have people working in a warehouse sorting boxes and loading trucks and if they do it long enough they get to drive the truck and make more money. What system do you think would serve UPS better? Seems like a pretty good carrot to me. Show up, do your job and you can get a better job.

Having owned a delivery company I know first hand that the sorting and loading part is just as important as the actual delivery part. UPS using "seniority" has found a way to pay their employees less for that part of the job compared to the actual delivery part. An employee like Zags is happy with this arrangement, UPS is happy with this but for some strange reason this bugs you. Why?

I'm not sure why you're still arguing against something I didn't say. I don't care if Zags or others are happy with their arrangement or like their job. I said if somebody is confident in their ability to perform at a level higher than the bulk or mean, then it isn't in their best interests to want to be part of a union.
 
no you said that their intelligence should be questioned, as in they are dumb i assume
 
no you said that their intelligence should be questioned, as in they are dumb i assume

Well, they made a dumb decision. If they didn't realize they were doing so, then yes, their intelligence should be questioned.
 
and you should be in bed son, its a school night
 
I forgot the memo, hating on Unions is a patriotic endeavor.
 
Well, they made a dumb decision. If they didn't realize they were doing so, then yes, their intelligence should be questioned.

so you are smarter than everyone that is in a union in your mind? i am assuming you are positing yourself as not dumb
 

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