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What if Portland had taken Kevin Durant over Greg Oden?
Here's what we knew about Oden heading into the 2007 Draft: owned Ewing-like potential as a rebounder and shotblocker … struggled with a broken wrist during his freshman year at Ohio State … only played one "Wow!" game (the '07 NCAA Championship: 25 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks in defeat against Florida's Joakim Noah and Al Horford) … his right leg was one inch longer than his left leg (a red flag for potential knee/feet/back issues) … openly admitted that he didn't love basketball and once wanted to become a dentist … frightened everyone in Portland with a jittery pre-draft workout … looked and walked like a thirty-six-year-old man.

Meanwhile, Durant lived and breathed basketball, became a national phenomenon during his only Texas season, crushed his Portland workout and had no conceivable offensive ceiling. Throw in Portland's tortured history with fragile centers and, as the years pass, it's becoming harder to fathom that the Blazers willingly decided, "Screw the sure thing, let's take the big guy with uneven legs who played one great college game." But that's what they did. Because we love revising history over time, owner Paul Allen and then-general manager Kevin Pritchard have been protected by the "Come on, anyone would have taken Oden, you always take a franchise center, it's not their fault he keeps getting injured" defense. That presumes Oden was considered a sure thing -- like Kareem, Ewing or Hakeem -- and ignores those six months everyone spent wondering about him before the 2007 Draft. Like me, Boston GM Danny Ainge liked Durant as the top pick for one reason: Durant was the sure thing, not Oden. If you followed Durant in college (and Ainge fell head over heels for him, as did I), you knew about his work ethic, leadership, character and scoring DNA. I thought Durant was a genetic freak: like Tracy McGrady crossed with Plastic Man, someone God created to make baskets and get to the line. Oden left you hoping he stayed healthy, hoping basketball would become more important to him, hoping his spotty college year wasn't an aberration, hoping he developed a low-post game and a killer instinct … for a sure thing, you sure were doing a lot of hoping. How was that any different than the Bowie/Jordan dilemma 23 years earlier? When Durant became the youngest scoring champ ever and placed second in the 2010 MVP balloting -- as Oden recovered from his second season-ending knee injury, no less -- Portland's decision barreled into the "What If" chapter six years earlier than expected.

So what if the Blazers picked Durant instead of Oden? They become the fledgling Western Conference juggernaut of the 2010s (not Oklahoma City); Portland becomes a legitimate 2010 destination for LeBron; any successfully unconventional decision would be called "a Pritchard"; and everyone in Portland would be so perpetually happy that it would never rain there again. Instead, we have to start bracing for the 2029 or 2030 Draft, when Portland wins another lottery and finds itself stressing between Sure Thing Potential Superstar Scorer X over Possibly Fragile Franchise Center X as everyone else wonders, "Wait a second, we're doing this again?" One of these generations, the Blazers will get it right.
 
yawn. whomever had the #1 pick would have done the same, so I don't sweat it.
 
I love it when people use the "Blazers had bad luck in the past with centers" as a reason to pass on Oden. Everybody knows that Walton's bad feet have an impact on a player's knees 30 years later.
 
I love it when people use the "Blazers had bad luck in the past with centers" as a reason to pass on Oden. Everybody knows that Walton's bad feet have an impact on a player's knees 30 years later.

My wife hates "all-time" stats between teams for this very reason. "I don't care what the Blazers are all-time versus Phoenix! It doesn't actually matter!" To be fair, she does statistical analysis for a living, so she see it very differently than a fan would.
 
Thanks Bill, for rubbing salt in the wound. What a Dick.
 
That draft should have taught the NBA front offices a very valuable lesson:

Stay the FUCK away from prospects with serious red flags on their pre-draft physicals.

Lesson learned. We get it, Bill.

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Down, Not Out.

It's all good, our time horizon has been stretched waay out now that we gotta figure out how to use B-Roy.
 
I wonder just how serious Oden's health concerns were during the pre-draft process
 
That draft should have taught the NBA front offices a very valuable lesson:

Stay the FUCK away from prospects with serious red flags on their pre-draft physicals.

Lesson learned. We get it, Bill.

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Yet most of our fan base wanted to pick Blair.
 
Is there a link to an article Simmons wrote before the draft, advocating Durant over Oden? Or did he not say that.
 
"but we already had paul pierce, so naturally I would have still drafted durant. derrrrrrr"
 
Is there a link to an article Simmons wrote before the draft, advocating Durant over Oden? Or did he not say that.

Here is a mock draft prior to the 2007 draft that shows Simmons' preference.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=nbamockdraft/070627

Bill Simmons selects: Kevin Durant, SF, Texas
If I'm Portland's GM, I just spent the last five weeks wondering about Greg Oden. What's his ceiling? Can he be better than Patrick Ewing? Alonzo Mourning? Can he become as dominant as Tim Duncan? Should I be worried about his surgically repaired wrist, or the fact that he might suffer back problems some day because his legs are different sizes? What about the fact that he likes basketball, but doesn't love it? The thing is, all these franchise centers are basically the same -- it just comes down to their inherent will to dominate a game. Hakeem had that will, Duncan has it, Moses had it, Shaq had it in 2000 and 2001 ... for whatever reason, Ewing didn't have it, and neither did Mourning or Robinson. Can you see Oden stepping onto a basketball court and saying, "There's no way we're losing this f-ing game. I'm destroying the other team tonight." For some reason, I can't.

Well, Durant plays that way every game. He's a cold-blooded killer. I hate pre-draft workouts, but didn't you find it interesting that Oden was nervous, awkward and apologetic during his workout in Portland, but a confident Durant strolled in there two days later and blew everyone away? You know what's funny about that? I knew that was going to happen. One guy plays basketball because he was created to play basketball; the other plays because he was bigger than everyone else and it seemed like the logical thing to do. If there was a pickup game and Oden was on one side, Durant was on the other, and your life depended on the game, you'd pick Durant. You would.

So if Portland takes Oden, it will happen because of conventional NBA logic (you always take the franchise center), because their fans are pushing for him (obviously, nobody watches college basketball in Portland) and because he's a personable, gregarious, likable big guy for a city that's desperately needed a personable, gregarious, likable big guy ever since Bill Walton ditched Portland for San Diego. I'm not saying those reasons are wrong. In fact, I understand them completely. But if I'm Portland's GM, I'm taking the guy with a legitimate chance to go down with Bird, Magic, MJ, Baylor, Oscar, West, Duncan, Pettit, Havlicek and every other great non-center who ever played in the National Basketball Association. I'm taking Kevin Durant.
 
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Is this going to be an annual thing?

Simmons should pitch this to ESPN. Every Christmas he'll have the "Bill Simmons Christmas Special" where he'll sit in a rocking chair with a bunch of little kids and a crackling fire.

"Gather round boys and girls, for I am going to tell you the story of Greg Oden and the Portland Trail Blazers..."
 
Here is a mock draft prior to the 2007 draft that shows Simmons' preference.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=nbamockdraft/070627
So THAT'S why he keeps crowing. He's reminding us he picked Durant. I think the comedian in him was just trying to be different. Fanball had the same motive--of the 15 biggest mock drafts, only they chose Durant. Yes, 14 of 15 chose Oden.

http://www.nba.com/features/draft2007_consensus.html

In this mock, Chad Ford picked in a different order from the mock he did with Simmons.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/lottery07/mockdraft

Others: http://www.nbadraft.net/mocks/2007_nba_mock_draft.html

http://www.mynbadraft.com/2007-NBA-Mock-Draft

So, there are 18 more mocks. I found only one choosing Durant--Fanball. Of course, trolls can respond that GMs don't follow mock drafts, so it's irrelevant.
 
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I remember telling gambitnut on IM that I'd take Durant over Oden, and keep ZBo. Durant filled a need.

The lineup would have been:

Durant, ZBo, LMA/Joel (center)
Roy and anyone

That's 3 all-stars.
 
So THAT'S why he keeps crowing. He's reminding us he picked Durant. I think the comedian in him was just trying to be different. AOL Fanball had the same motive--of the 15 biggest mock drafts, only they chose Durant. Yes, 14 of 15 chose Oden.

http://www.nba.com/features/draft2007_consensus.html

In this mock, Chad Ford picked in a different order from the mock he did with Simmons.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/lottery07/mockdraft

Others: http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_history/2007.html

http://www.mynbadraft.com/2007-NBA-Mock-Draft

So, there are 18 more mocks. I found only one choosing Durant--Fanhouse. Of course, trolls can respond that GMs don't follow mock drafts, so it's irrelevant.

Aren't most mock drafts trying to predict what will happen rather than list the players with the most potential?
 
We can't go back in time with the ability to predict the future.

I'm fucking sick and tired of douchebags like Simmons and John Lund yammering away about this.
 
I remember telling gambitnut on IM that I'd take Durant over Oden, and keep ZBo. Durant filled a need.

The lineup would have been:

Durant, ZBo, LMA/Joel (center)
Roy and anyone

That's 3 all-stars.

I think it was a heavy debate at the time. I remember pondering that very lineup, but if the Blazers HAD done that, they still would have had to move ZBO. There's no way Randolph could have coexisted with Roy AND Durant. I also think we've learned over the years that there's no way LMA could have been our center. Maybe in bits here in there, but he's just not a center.
 
One recent bit of damning evidence against Oden is the 6th grade hip fracture. That's a huge deal imo. And it was never spoken of during the draft deliberation. Critics were quick to rundown his litany of physical setbacks including forgettable ones like the summer league tonsillectomy. Yet no mention of an early development injury that could have corrollary consequences later in life. I find it very odd it surfaces now. If was widely known at the time, I think the public opinion would have been more divided.

Also, although admittedly I bought into the rhetoric at the time, the idea that we were choosing between a guy who would get us rings vs a scoring champion is pretty silly. Scoring champions have won championships and/or go deep into the playoffs.

Hindsight tends to be more bitter than sweet for Blazer fans.
 
The thing was, I think we all knew who Durant would be. It's not like he was overlooked. It was a calculated risk and the Blazers chose wrong, but I still think there wasn't the clear warning signs that some would like us to think.
 
I will say this. I got off from a plane on the day of the lottery to find a voicemail from my brother saying we got the number 1 pick and Seattle got #2. The FIRST thing that entered my mind was Bowie/Jordan. I thought oh FUCK, here we go again. What if we pick Oden, he busts, and Durant becomes a superstar. It was all laid out for us again and we picked the big guy. I was in favor of Oden, by the way. Can't turn down a possible Ewing for a possible Tracy McGrady, I thought. Especially since we had Roy and Aldridge and a great cast of role players and three point threats- Jones, Webster, Outlaw, Blake, Rudy(coming)- to surround him with. I thought we'd trade Randolph for a stud SF (Marion, Jefferson, Rashard Lewis, Prince) and win the championship in 2-3 years. Obviously, here we are. It didn't happen. But I knew on that day in May that it could be Bowie all over again. I knew it. Other GMs had to know it too.
 
Oh and by the way, didn't Durant fail some sort of predraft training thingy? If I remember right, Oden passed and Durant didn't. He couldn't bench a certain weight or something. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? Don't make me look it up.
 
I will say this. I got off from a plane on the day of the lottery to find a voicemail from my brother saying we got the number 1 pick and Seattle got #2. The FIRST thing that entered my mind was Bowie/Jordan. I thought oh FUCK, here we go again. What if we pick Oden, he busts, and Durant becomes a superstar. It was all laid out for us again and we picked the big guy. I was in favor of Oden, by the way. Can't turn down a possible Ewing for a possible Tracy McGrady, I thought. Especially since we had Roy and Aldridge and a great cast of role players and three point threats- Jones, Webster, Outlaw, Blake, Rudy(coming)- to surround him with. I thought we'd trade Randolph for a stud SF (Marion, Jefferson, Rashard Lewis, Prince) and win the championship in 2-3 years. Obviously, here we are. It didn't happen. But I knew on that day in May that it could be Bowie all over again. I knew it. Other GMs had to know it too.

I suspect the whole Bowie comparison crossed everyone's minds at some point, but who would have thought history would repeat itself?
 
I suspect the whole Bowie comparison crossed everyone's minds at some point, but who would have thought history would repeat itself?

Like you said, we knew what Durant was going to be. We didn't miss that. We just thought Oden was the better pick for winning and winning long term. Maybe we will win with him yet, but it's not going to be with the teammates we envisioned for him.
 

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