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Lower core strength is a hurdle for all rookies pretty much...Vonleh was born with it...other guys need to build it up. It's less about lateral quickness than about not getting pushed out of the way when you're feet are set....Jake Layman has really good lower core strength for his size
 
Unless they trade CJ, which I find rather doubtful, I expect Olshey to bring in a minimum wage vet and Stotts to bury Simons for most (if not all) of the season.
 
Orion Bailey said:
So. Im all about Simon’s in the gym and its great!!!
Defense usually comes from the waist down though. Strong legs to move quicker side to side and keep up with your guy.
I agree. Id rather see him doing leg strengthening workouts and defensive skills workouts.
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I think you would be right if we were talking about about a low post defender. I am having flashbacks from old comparisons between Oden and KD.
KD's legs were "too skinny" and he could not bench press worth shit. Those memories are painful.

Simons is quick and he has a great wing span for his size. How often do guards post up? His leg strength will be fine. I would not rush him in the weight room. Skinny legs can be deceptively strong. They are obviously explosive already. His upper body already looks much bigger
 
The thing I can't get over is young dude has a weird-looking shot. It's like a chicken wing. Elbow out. Never seems to get full extension. But he has a terrific natural touch. And it goes in.

Dame has kind of unusual mechanics, too, although it seems to have smoothed out a bit over the years.

But I don't know any coach that'd teach a kid to shoot that way.
 
PCmor7 said:
The thing I can't get over is young dude has a weird-looking shot. It's like a chicken wing. Elbow out. Never seems to get full extension. But he has a terrific natural touch. And it goes in.

Dame has kind of unusual mechanics, too, although it seems to have smoothed out a bit over the years.

But I don't know any coach that'd teach a kid to shoot that way.
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Yeah, kind jumps forward with it, but quick release.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Unless they trade CJ, which I find rather doubtful, I expect Olshey to bring in a minimum wage vet and Stotts to bury Simons for most (if not all) of the season.
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I would be surprised if it would be Olshey's idea to intentionally bury Simons on the bench for another year. He looks good if Simons excels not sits.
Terry would more likely be the one to bury him, not Neil. They will need a Vet though for the minimum. Hopefully it is someone who can play with Simons like maybe Rondo??
 
PCmor7 said:
The thing I can't get over is young dude has a weird-looking shot. It's like a chicken wing. Elbow out. Never seems to get full extension. But he has a terrific natural touch. And it goes in.

Dame has kind of unusual mechanics, too, although it seems to have smoothed out a bit over the years.

But I don't know any coach that'd teach a kid to shoot that way.
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His shooting elbow is fine..
 
Hoopguru said:
Looks like a jump set shot with forward motion! Like to lean into it...
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I mean, there are funky things to it mechanically. But it works for him.

You find a number of good shooters who don't shoot with "perfect mechanics or fundamentals." So it's not a bust on him at all. I just think it looks awkward with the elbow, the lean and the half or jerky follow-through. His shot is really soft in spite of all that.
 
I hate the idea of reconstructing jumpshots... just do what is comfortable/goes in. Unless it’s so janky/broken that it gets blocked everytime.
 
PCmor7 said:
I mean, there are funky things to it mechanically. But it works for him.

You find a number of good shooters who don't shoot with "perfect mechanics or fundamentals." So it's not a bust on him at all. I just think it looks awkward with the elbow, the lean and the half or jerky follow-through. His shot is really soft in spite of all that.
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Simons has great mechanics. No interference from his left hand. Shooting elbow tucked in. Smooth one-motion shot. Quick release. Good, consistent extension on his follow through. No shotting-shoulder rotation. Almost always on-balance.

People see his low set point (which he doesn't even really have since he has a one-motion shot) and they see his off-hand raising above the release point and they think it's weird. Thing is, his off-hand is lifting up off of the ball and therefore, has 0 interference with the ball.
 
BonesJones said:
Simons has great mechanics. No interference from his left hand. Shooting elbow tucked in. Smooth one-motion shot. Quick release. Good, consistent extension on his follow through. No shotting-shoulder rotation. Almost always on-balance.

People see his low set point (which he doesn't even really have since he has a one-motion shot) and they see his off-hand raising above the release point and they think it's weird. Thing is, his off-hand is lifting up off of the ball and therefore, has 0 interference with the ball.
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I can't really tell, but his mechanics have always looked really, strange to me. I mean I don't really care the kid can get the ball in the hoop, could shoot the ball like Shawn Marion if the balls going in.
 
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PCmor7 said:
Not from that angle. I watched further into the video and it still looks out. Just like it did in his scouting vids and just like it did when he played last year.

Eat a Snickers, Bones.
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Provide evidence then. His elbow isnt out. I'm trying to find a clip to prove it.
 
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