Simplified seeding

[BengalDuck]

Portland wins
Houston loses

Portland is 3rd seed

Portland wins
Houston wins

Portland is 4th seed

Portland loses
Houston wins

Portland is 5th seed

At least, this is what I think... feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

What if all three teams in the Spurs, Rocks, and Blazers win? What if both the Spurs and Blazers lose?

 

[MAS RipCity]

SAS loses, PDX loses
4th seed

 

[BIG Q]

You need to factor SA in. If they win their last game in your scenarios the best Portland would do is fourth as Den and SA would be tied with us, but they would both be division winners, which is the first tie breaker.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I believe this is correct. Whether San Antonio loses or wins is irrelevant to Portland seeding, it only affects whom the Blazers play in the first round.

 

[OddEnormous]

Thank god this has all been simplified

 

[Draco]

Portland wins
Houston loses
SA Wins

Portland is 4rd seed

Portland wins
Houston wins
SA doesn't matter.

Portland is 4th seed

Portland loses
Houston wins
SA loses

Portland is 4th seed

 

[illmatic99]

What if all three teams in the Spurs, Rocks, and Blazers win?

It will be:

2) Houston, 3) Denver, 4) Portland, 5) Spurs

What if both the Spurs and Blazers lose?

It will be:

4) Portland, 5) Spurs.

The magic number for the Blazers to clinch HCA is either one Blazer win, or one Spurs loss.

Oh, and the only way we can get third is if both the Spurs AND Rockets lose, provided we win.

 

[OddEnormous]

The magic number for the Blazers to clinch HCA is either one Blazer win, or one Spurs loss.

There ya go... Nice one!

 

[BengalDuck]

Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, again...

Only way to get the 3rd seed is if Houston loses and we win. Everything else is irrelevant (we own the tiebreaker versus SA)

Only way to get the 5th seed is if SA and Houston win and we lose.

Every other combination is the 4th seed.

 

[Draco]

SA would have the tie breaker over us if they win their division (SA win Hou loss)

If SA losses we are guaranteed 4th.

 

[illmatic99]

Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, again...

Only way to get the 3rd seed is if Houston loses and we win. Everything else is irrelevant (we own the tiebreaker versus SA)

I don't think so. There is some new rule that division winners get top 4 seed, so even if the Spurs and Blazers win, and Rockets lose, we're stuck at #4 against Houston.

Only way to get the 5th seed is if SA and Houston win and we lose.

Every other combination is the 4th seed.

Or, the Spurs could win, and both the Blazers and Rockets could lose.

 

[Minstrel]

Only way to get the 5th seed is if SA and Houston win and we lose.

Houston doesn't have to win. They have the tie-breaker over Portland. If Portland loses, San Antonio must also lose or Portland gets the 5 seed.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Every other combination is the 4th seed.

Which I selfishly kinda want.

I want the Blazers to meet and beat the Spurs in the first round.

And then I want to murder the Lakers in the 2nd round. Even if the Blazers lose the series, I want the Lakers so beat up and worn down by Portland that they don't stand a chance beating Houston, Denver, or Cleveland.

 

[hasoos]

What if the Blazers win, and Denver goes down in a "mysterious plane wreck".

 

[crowTrobot]

i expect it to end in a 4-way tie

 

[rocketeer]

Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, again...

Only way to get the 3rd seed is if Houston loses and we win. Everything else is irrelevant (we own the tiebreaker versus SA)

Only way to get the 5th seed is if SA and Houston win and we lose.

Every other combination is the 4th seed.

the first tiebreaker for seeding is whether or not the team is a division champ. if houston loses and the spurs win, the spurs win that division and will be seeded ahead of the blazers(though the blazers would still get homecourt over the spurs if they were to end up playing them in a series).

 

[MARIS61]

Portland wins
Houston loses
SA Wins

Portland is 4rd seed

4rd?

 

[MARIS61]

So, as I understand this "simplification", we are already guaranteed HCA regardless since worse case is we're 5th and SA 4th but we have the season series so would have HCA?

Correct?

 

[Draco]

3 games left DEN@POR, HOU@DAL, NO@SA

Scenario1
W-Por,Dal,SA
2.Nug
3.SA
4.Blazers
5.Rockets
6.Dal
7.NO

Scenario2
W-Por,Dal,No
2.Nug
3.Blazers
4.Rockets
5.SA
6.NO
7.Dal

Scenario3
W-Por,Hou,SA
2.Rockets
3.Nug
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
78.Dal

Scenario4
W-Por,Hou,No
2.Rockets
3.Nug
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
78.Dal

Scenario5
W-Den,Dal,SA
2.Nug
3.SA
4.Rockets
5.Blazers
6.Dal
7.NO

Scenario6
W-Den,Dal,No
2.Nug
3.Rockets
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
7.Dal

Scenario7
W-Den,Hou,SA
2.Nug
3.Rockets
4.SA
5.Blazers
6.NO
78.Dal

Scenario8
W-Den,Hou,No
2.Nug
3.Rockets
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
78.Dal

 

[rocketeer]

So, as I understand this "simplification", we are already guaranteed HCA regardless since worse case is we're 5th and SA 4th but we have the season series so would have HCA?

Correct?

no. if portland loses and the spurs win, spurs have homecourt because they have a better record.

 

[Wheels]

So if we end up with a 3 way tie we dont get bumped? the way I thought I understood it was... SAS owns the tie breaker with Houston who owns it over us, so we would be bumped to 5th. By virtue of us losing the season series to Houston. if thats how it goes.. it would be like Texas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma this year in football.

 

[rocketeer]

So if we end up with a 3 way tie we dont get bumped? the way I thought I understood it was... SAS owns the tie breaker with Houston who owns it over us, so we would be bumped to 5th. By virtue of us losing the season series to Houston. if thats how it goes.. it would be like Texas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma this year in football.

the rockets have the tiebreaker over both the spurs and blazers.

 

[Rodolfo]

We want Houston to lose, SA to lose and NO to win. If we get third, we want NO over Dallas.

 

[Draco]

So if we end up with a 3 way tie we dont get bumped? the way I thought I understood it was... SAS owns the tie breaker with Houston who owns it over us, so we would be bumped to 5th. By virtue of us losing the season series to Houston. if thats how it goes.. it would be like Texas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma this year in football.

SA owns the tiebreaker vs no one.

 

[Rodolfo]

Scenario2
W-Por,Dal,No
2.Nug
3.Blazers
4.Rockets
5.SA
6.NO
7.Dal

Yes

 

[Wheels]

the rockets have the tiebreaker over both the spurs and blazers.

Oh ok I must have heard incorrectly.. I thought that SAS had it, thanks. But just for hypothetical clarification.. if that was the case would we have been bumped?

 

[Draco]

We want Houston to lose, SA to lose and NO to win. If we get third, we want NO over Dallas.

It's impossible for us to play Dallas as NO must win for SA to lose.

 

[OddEnormous]

3 games left DEN@POR, HOU@DAL, NO@SA

Scenario1
W-Por,Dal,SA
2.Nug
3.SA
4.Blazers
5.Rockets
6.Dal
7.NO

Scenario2
W-Por,Dal,No
2.Nug
3.Blazers
4.Rockets
5.SA
6.NO
7.Dal

Scenario3
W-Por,Hou,SA
2.Rockets
3.Nug
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
78.Dal

Scenario4
W-Por,Hou,No
2.Rockets
3.Nug
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
78.Dal

Scenario5
W-Den,Dal,SA
2.Nug
3.SA
4.Rockets
5.Blazers
6.Dal
7.NO

Scenario6
W-Den,Dal,No
2.Nug
3.Rockets
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
7.Dal

Scenario7
W-Den,Hou,SA
2.Nug
3.Rockets
4.SA
5.Blazers
6.NO
78.Dal

Scenario8
W-Den,Hou,No
2.Nug
3.Rockets
4.Blazers
5.SA
6.NO
78.Dal

This is being Epsoned as we speak.

TA!

Wreppt!

 

[rocketeer]

Oh ok I must have heard incorrectly.. I thought that SAS had it, thanks. But just for hypothetical clarification.. if that was the case would we have been bumped?

if there is a 3 way tie, houston gets the 3 seed. i think portland gets the 4 and san antonio the 5, but it really doesn't matter who is the 4 or 5 as the blazers will have homecourt due to having the head to head tiebreaker over the spurs.