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This ain't workin'.

Call it a "regular" season.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
I agree. He's hurting himself and the team.
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Both.

He destroyed the Blazers by himself tonight on both sides of the ball. They had a chance to win this game if he hadn't played. The Blazers were playing 4 on 5 all night. 33 minutes played by Roy out of the first 42 mintues of the game.

Ridiculous.
 
It will be interesting to see how much of this has to do with rust.
 
I really agree, he wasn't playing defense, and then when he was on offense he was playing like he couldn't try..... that's just not good enough.
 
Start Bayless. We need an attacker not a half injured Roy and a streaky shooter in Rudy. If Bayless doesn't work then start Batum.
 
yuyuza1 said:
It will be interesting to see how much of this has to do with rust.
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:mad:

Stop talking sense and get on the suicide bandwagon.



IMO it's probably a mixture. Not feeling 100% and not in game shape yet.
 
"Sit Roy"...I just got onto the board to say the same thing! I thought no one would agree with me...Playing Roy cost us the game. While he dribbles around slowly, it takes his teammates out of the game. All that psyched-up energy goes to waste. I think we might have won if not for him.
 
Well said. Sit down Brandon. There is nothing to be gained with you moving like that. I saw sevral times at the game tonight where he was holding the back of his leg while away from the play.
 
Bosco said:
I really agree, he wasn't playing defense, and then when he was on offense he was playing like he couldn't try..... that's just not good enough.
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I missed the first three quarters, so I can't really comment on Brandon's defense. But the Celtics are a frustrating team to guard when they are making their jumpers. They run so many picks. It's not like they run iso's and you see one guy getting beat over and over.
 
Kaydow said:
I missed the first three quarters, so I can't really comment on Brandon's defense. But the Celtics are a frustrating team to guard when they are making their jumpers. They run so many picks. It's not like they run iso's and you see one guy getting beat over and over.
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Nonsense. Roy lost the game. Sit him and trade him.
 
Kaydow said:
I missed the first three quarters, so I can't really comment on Brandon's defense. But the Celtics are a frustrating team to guard when they are making their jumpers. They run so many picks. It's not like they run iso's and you see one guy getting beat over and over.
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It was more like they just ran Rondo attacking the hoop over and over again, and Nate didnt' put Bayless on him until the 3rd quarter, and Bayless did a good job on him. But it was far too late.
 
BGrantFan said:
Nonsense. Roy lost the game. Sit him and trade him.
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There you go with your smart ass remarks when you are not in agreement with something. Roy was not in game shape, whether he is still hurting or rusty, I don't know, but he hurt the team tonight with his shotty defense (which isn't good to begin with anyway) and was missing jumpers and a step to slow. I will grant you that everyone pretty much played bad defense tonight, but Roy didn't help and he shouldn't have been pushing through this especially becaue it could have further worsened the injury.
 
EGame said:
There you go with your smart ass remarks when you are not in agreement with something. Roy was not in game shape, whether he is still hurting or rusty, I don't know, but he hurt the team tonight with his shotty defense (which isn't good to begin with anyway) and was missing jumpers and a step to slow. I will grant you that everyone pretty much played bad defense tonight, but Roy didn't help and he shouldn't have been pushing through this especially becaue it could have further worsened the injury.
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I hate "shotty" defense. I don't want to see it again. Trade Roy in the offseason for Deron Williams.
 
BGrantFan said:
I hate "shotty" defense. I don't want to see it again. Trade Roy in the offseason for Deron Williams.
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Care to bring any actual discussion to the table or not? I'm glad you thought Roy did excellent tonight.
 
:dunno:
EGame said:
Care to bring any actual discussion to the table or not? I'm glad you thought Roy did excellent tonight.
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Roy sucked balls tonight. I want him traded for Deron Williams. Is this bizarro land? Roy is "shotty" in terms of defense, and he doesn't make the team better.
 
BGrantFan said:
:dunno:

Roy sucked balls tonight. I want him traded for Deron Williams. Is this bizarro land? Roy is "shotty" in terms of defense, and he doesn't make the team better.
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Umm, Williams only had 9 points tonight, he sucks to. Try trade Roy for someone good like LeBron. Although, now that his value has dropped dramatically we will be lucky to get just a second round draft pick.
 
EGame said:
Umm, Williams only had 9 points tonight, he sucks to. Try trade Roy for someone good like LeBron. Although, now that his value has dropped dramatically we will be lucky to get just a second round draft pick.
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Value added to "Sit Roy" the thread? It is bizarro land.
 
KG even said "Brandon Roy looks hurt."

Playing him is such a bad idea right now. It's not going to get better by playing on it.
 
This game against the Celtics was woeful.
Nate McMillan must get the chop for this team to even begin resembling a pro team once again.
I've seen college programs run better offense than McMillan.
The Blazers defense, spacing, boxing out, shooting all look suspect and mistrained.
But the most alarming thing to see is the lack of hustle and desire. (Bayless, Camby & Pendergraph excluded)

I think this comes down to a leadership issue. One, that McMillan has lost his team and, two, that Roy is not going to lead us to the promised land.

I'm suspicious of Roy becoming one of the 'comfort players' that rotate through the NBA, wasting their super talents in a comfortable lifestyle fueled by the mega-million dollar salaries.
Some players have all the talent in the world, but become lax after earning a big paycheck. Their heads, and especially their hearts, are just not in it.

Roy taking the summer off was dissapointing (something I don't think you'd get away with if your not Brandon Roy), and he really seems to want as much time off as he can get.
That's not a good example to set as the leader of the team.
NBA life is demanding time wise, but that's why they're paid millions.
(great that he's a family man, but he's our captain, sets the example, and, oh yeah, he's getting paid 80 million dollars!)

LMA is an example of a guy who's head isn't in the game. He has great talent but fails to utilise it properly. LMA always seems to be thinking of something else other than the game at hand. No concentreation, no hustle, no spirit. (He's prob thinking: how am I going to woo that young lady with my millions after the game?)

Some players live and breath basketball, others are naturally talented enough at it to cruise through their career earning ridiculous amounts of money.
It's the players that live, breath basketball who combine that work ethic with their talent and the killer instinct that rise to the pinnacle in their sport.
(Kevin Durant/Jordan/Kobe types)

I just don't see that desire from Brandon and I whilst i think he'll have a good career, I don't think he is a superstar level player.

Personally I'd trade him for someone who's not quite as talented but would run & play Defense (effort), someone who just leaves it all on the court. (And someone who doesn't negatively impact the flow of the offense simply by refusing to run)

That's the type of leader this team needs, not someone developing a team of sooky wusses.

Sorry for the rant but I'm tired of seeing no hustle or effort from these millionaires.
 
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A lot of people think its rust. To me, it looked like he was trying too hard to fit in. Which shouldn't be the case. We have invested too much into him for him to play off his teammates. His teammates need to learn to play off of him.
 
WillG said:
This game against the Celtics was woeful.
Nate McMillan must get the chop for this team to even begin resembling a pro team once again.
I've seen college programs run better offense than McMillan.
The Blazers defense, spacing, boxing out, shooting all look suspect and mistrained.
But the most alarming thing to see is the lack of hustle and desire. (Bayless, Camby & Pendergraph excluded)

I think this comes down to a leadership issue. One, that McMillan has lost his team and, two, that Roy is not going to lead us to the promised land.

I'm suspicious of Roy becoming one of the 'comfort players' that rotate through the NBA, wasting their super talents in a comfortable lifestyle fueled by the mega-million dollar salaries.
Some players have all the talent in the world, but become lax after earning a big paycheck. Their heads, and especially their hearts, are just not in it.

LMA is an example of a guy who's head isn't in the game. He has great talent but fails to utilise it properly. LMA always seems to be thinking of something else other than the game at hand. No concentreation, no hustle, no spirit. (He's prob thinking: how am I going to woo that young lady with my millions after the game?)

As for Roy; Firstly taking the summer off (something I don't think you'd get away with if your not Brandon Roy), and he really seems to want as much time off as he can get.
That's not a good example to set as the leader of the team.
NBA life is demanding time wise, but that's why they're paid millions.
(great that he's a family man, but he's our captain, sets the example, and, oh yeah, he's getting paid 80 million dollars!)


Some players live and breath basketball, others are naturally talented enough at it to cruise through their career earning ridiculous amounts of money.
It's the players that live, breath basketball who combine that work ethic with their talent and the killer instinct that rise to the pinnacle in their sport.
(Kevin Durant)

I just don't see that desire from Brandon and I whilst i think he'll have a good career, I don't think he is a superstar level player.

Personally I'd trade him for someone who's not quite as talented but would run & play Defense (effort), someone who just leaves it all on the court. (And someone who doesn't negatively impact the flow of the offense simply by refusing to run)

That's the type of leader this team needs, not someone developing a team of sooky wusses.

Sorry for the rant but I'm tired of seeing no hustle or effort from these millionaires.
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Lay off the bottle, or atleast learn how to handle your alcohol.
 
But it enables me to endure the ineptitude of McMillan. . .
 
Let's look at it from two different perspectives. First, let's say Roy's hamstring is really messed up. In that case, he shouldn't be playing. Second, let's say it's all in Roy's head. If he's going to be thinking about his hamstring, he's not thinking about basketball. I understand the argument that by playing enough, he'll eventually forget about it, but I haven't seen it. If you can't fix Roy's head on the court, in my opinion he's holding the team back by playing.

I also think there's this natural tendency by the other players to defer to Roy on offense. If the other four are standing around watching him, then it makes the entire team less effective on offense. And having to cover Roy's guy on defense because he can now be taken off the dribble by any move that requires him to make a quick change of direction puts too much pressure on the other four players.

In short, I think it's time from Brandon to wear a suit until he decides he is capable or willing to give 100%. This year is lost anyway. There's no need to see what we did last night for the next 26 games. He either needs to get his hamstring right or his head right.
 
Whatever the reason, he wasn't playing basketball. Sit him until he can or will.
 
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