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STOMP said:
he's also never made the Western Conference All Star team which would seem to indicate that NBA coaches don't feel he's one of the top 10 players in the West let alone the entire league.

I certainly wouldn't have put him this high, but this is a subjective list.

STOMP
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Roy made it over DWill because, at the time, the Blazers were hot and the Jazz were cold. That's all. If the All Stars were picked at the end of the season, DWill would've absolutely made it and Roy would've been nowhere near it.

Don't forget- Deron made the All-NBA second team last season.

I don't think 11 is too high. He's a great player. Averages 20 & 10. That is hardly ever done by a PG in the history of the league.
 
KingSpeed said:
Roy made it over DWill because, at the time, the Blazers were hot and the Jazz were cold. That's all. If the All Stars were picked at the end of the season, DWill would've absolutely made it and Roy would've been nowhere near it.

Don't forget- Deron made the All-NBA second team last season.
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how would I have forgotten? that was the main part of the quote I initially responded to...

Anyway, I rate Roy and Williams about the same. I think the plethora of other arguably better PGs in the West and lack of other SGs after Kobe was probably a key to why Brandon made it and Deron didn't.

STOMP
 
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STOMP said:
how would I have forgotten? that was the main part of the quote I initially responded to...

Anyway, I rate Roy and Williams about the same. I think the plethora of other arguably better PGs in the West and lack of other SGs after Kobe was probably a key to why Brandon made it and Deron didn't.

STOMP
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My bad.

and #10? Dwight Howard

Anyone have guesses about the top 5 in order?

Mine is

1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Paul
4. Amare
5. KG
 
Yea, Amare is no where near a top 5 type player....lead your team to a freaking conference finals..
 
He has led his team to a conference finals in 2005. He's one of the top 5 scorers in the league and he played like an MVP at the end of last season so that's why placed him that high. I guess Duncan will be up there. Which is great because he definitely deserving too.
 
Amare averaged 37ppg in that conference finals, by the way. They lost but still..
 
KingSpeed said:
Chauncey Billups at 25. That makes 4 Pistons on the list, probably the most from any one team.
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DennisRodman said:
Lakers probably should have 4 on the list too with Kobe, Odom, Pau, and Bynum.
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The Suns would have the highest 4 if they still had Marion, Amare, Nash, and Shaq. Crazy to think they have had that much talent but never won anything. I think Amare is surely top 10 talent. Dude averaged 33ppg after they added Shaq.
 
Marion and Shaq never played together. Bynum hasn't earned a place on the Top 50 yet, I don't think.
 
2005 is a long ways away from 2008-9. He's a great scorer but his defense and leadership qualities leave room for improvement. I personally feel Amare is more in the 10-20 range.
The top 5 will be
1-Kobe
2-LeBron
3-Paul
4-Garnett
5-Duncan (? not sure on this one, maybe Pierce/Wade)
 
MAS RipCity said:
2005 is a long ways away from 2008-9. He's a great scorer but his defense and leadership qualities leave room for improvement. I personally feel Amare is more in the 10-20 range.
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They were in the conference finals in 2005, 2006, the semi finals in 2007. Amare is a unbelievable talent, and easily a top ten player. His defense is lacking cause his last coach didnt ask him to play defense, and leadership is judgmental quality that cant be categorized. If Shaq is healthy for a full season Amare will average 30+ppg, which would be higher than Kobe's MVP year.
 
MAS RipCity said:
I personally feel Amare is more in the 10-20 range.
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That's crazy. His defense isn't good, but it's not distastrous. His scoring and rebounding makes him very elite. At worst, he's in the 5-10 range. I'd personally place him fifth, after LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul and Dwyane Wade, in order.
 
Yes. But clearly, they decided not to rank anyone who hadn't played yet.

Paul Pierce just came in as 7.
 
Paul Pierce at #7 is outlandish, Pierce would have been lucky to be between 10-20 if he wasn't on a TEAM that just one a championship.
 
Cs wouldn't have won the title without Paul. You can't hold his teammates against him. Any great player who has won titles needed help to do it. And yes, if they didn't win the title he probably would've been 10-20. But they DID win the title and wouldn't have done it with the kind of star performances he gave out. He went toe to toe with LeBron and won.
 
Nash? Two time MVP?

Big Shocker: Chris Paul at only #5! ??? I had him in my top 3.

I guess it goes like this:

1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. KG

LeBron HAS to be #1, right? If KG better than Duncan for winning the title this year?

Your thoughts?
 
KingSpeed said:
Nash? Two time MVP?

Big Shocker: Chris Paul at only #5! ??? I had him in my top 3.

I guess it goes like this:

1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. KG

LeBron HAS to be #1, right? If KG better than Duncan for winning the title this year?

Your thoughts?
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My top five is:

1. LeBron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Chris Paul
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Amare Stoudemire

Duncan and Garnett used to be #1 and #2 for me at one point, but they've both declined a bit.
 
Minstrel said:
My top five is:

1. LeBron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Chris Paul
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Amare Stoudemire

Duncan and Garnett used to be #1 and #2 for me at one point, but they've both declined a bit.
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Yes, but what will THEIR Top 5 be?
 
Once again, Duncan is rated too highly..he is NOT better than CP3 TODAY
 
#3 TIM DUNCAN

So here it is.... who will come in at #2? Kobe or LeBron. Kobe DID wi MVP but I think LeBron deserves the top spot. Please, SLAM, oh please, make Kobe #2. I think he deserves it because he got skunked by the Celtics while LeBron took the Cs down to the wire.

Thoughts?
 
KingSpeed said:
#3 TIM DUNCAN

So here it is.... who will come in at #2? Kobe or LeBron. Kobe DID wi MVP but I think LeBron deserves the top spot. Please, SLAM, oh please, make Kobe #2. I think he deserves it because he got skunked by the Celtics while LeBron took the Cs down to the wire.

Thoughts?
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LeBron did play terrible in the first 2-3 games of his series against the C's though (all-time worst shooting stretch over 4 games too, IIRC). Obviously either merits the #1 spot to me so I won't mind either way.
 
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He shot terribly. That's not the only part of his game though. At least in Game 7, LeBron delivered all but the W. In Game vs the Cs, Kobe shot 7-20, 7-22? Something like that? 39 point blow out? True stars don't let that happen. I'm not sure Kobe should even be Top 10.
 
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