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KingSpeed said:
He shot terribly. That's not the only part of his game though. At least in Game 7, LeBron delivered all but the W. In Game vs the Cs, Kobe shot 7-20, 7-22? Something like that? 39 point blow out? True stars don't let that happen. I'm not sure Kobe should even be Top 10.
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If we want to focus on just one game, then LeBron would have clinched the series if he hadn't been all-time horrific in Game 1; if he was just "7-22" in other words. With Kobe it was more about a team chokejob when he got blown out; and he did play poorly but basketball-reference has both of them with identical game scores... Kobe was also the monster who got us to the Finals by himself seeing as Pau was struggling at the 5 and Odom wasn't too hot at any point. The Top 10 in the game flourish I don't even want to touch, there's no way to me anyone can justify that. The Celtics playing poorly in the early part of the CLE series allowed Bron to take them to 7 games.
 
KingSpeed said:
24 point choke job.

39 point blow out.

Checkmate.
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2-18, 10 Turnovers in what was essentially a one point loss before the intentional free throws.

6-24, 7 turnovers the next game, so yeah, Kobe was never that individually awful. You obviously don't like the guy.
 
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LeBron played like that and STILL willed his team to within 2 minutes of taking down the Celtics. The Lakers weren't even CLOSE.

24 pt choke job

39 point blow out

Checkmate.

You will hear it from me all season long so get used to it.
 
KingSpeed said:
LeBron played like that and STILL willed his team to within 2 minutes of taking down the Celtics. The Lakers weren't even CLOSE.

24 pt choke job

39 point blow out

Checkmate.

You will hear it from me all season long so get used to it.
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LeBron didn't will anyone to anything in those games, Kobe outplayed him individually in these "chokejobs". All you're doing is comparing team performances instead of how both of them performed. You're ignoring the various factors that put them in the positions to win or lose.
 
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KingSpeed said:
December 20th, 2007 in Cleveland- Cavs 94, Lakers 90. LeBron 33. Kobe 21.
http://www.nba.com/games/20071220/LALCLE/boxscore.html

January 27th, 2008 in Los Angeles- Cavs 98, Lakers 95. LeBron 41. Kobe 33.
http://www.nba.com/games/20080127/CLELAL/boxscore.html

Check-fucking-mate.
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Get a grip, you lost already and you're reaching.

Read this carefully, I said Bron can easily be considered the best player at this moment, you brought this discussion into a whole other ridiculous direction by saying Kobe might not be top ten and disregarding whenever Bron plays poorly. And this poll isn't based on Head-2-Head matchups.
 
huevonkiller said:
W. t. F.

L. o. L.

:)
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Allow me to enlighten you on the ways of KingSpeed.

1.He hates anything Lakers to an irrational point. He will never admit his hate will skew his opinions to where they are laughable

2. He will cherry pick two random games when comparing players. He will find one of the best games for the player he likes, and the worst game for the player he hates.

3. If he likes a player that has a good game he will make a thread stating that that player is the best player in the league. There will be no obvious sarcasm in the thread. To justify it he will utilize point #2.

4. "Checkmate"... It is him referring to how in his opinion he just owned you in whatever subject you are talking about. He will do it in multiple posts in the same thread(5 times so far in since the last page). He will use this phrase until you want to drive up to Beverly Hills and slap him in the face. He will do this until everybody gets on his case about saying it and then he will apologize and say he was joking, and that he wont do it again...for a month

Other than that he is cool :biglaugh:
 
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It's done. LeBron at #2. Kobe at #1. To look at the whole list, check out the first post of this thread.
 
DaRizzle said:
Allow me to enlighten you on the ways of KingSpeed.

1.He hates anything Lakers to an irrational point. He will never admit his hate will skew his opinions to where they are laughable

2. He will cherry pick two random games when comparing players. He will find one of the best games for the player he likes, and the worst game for the player he hates.

3. If he likes a player that has a good game he will make a thread stating that that player is the best player in the league. There will be no obvious sarcasm in the thread. To justify it he will utilize point #2.

4. "Checkmate"... It is him referring to how in his opinion he just owned you in whatever subject you are talking about. He will do it in multiple posts in the same thread(5 times so far in since the last page). He will use this phrase until you want to drive up to Beverly Hills and slap him in the face. He will do this until everybody gets on his case about saying it and then he will apologize and say he was joking, and that he wont do it again...for a month

Other than that he is cool :biglaugh:
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Wow, your pretty much nailed it.
 
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