Slings and arrows.... but would you?

[RoyIsClutch07]

The San Antonio Spurs were one of the boringest teams in basketball to watch but they won several championships. So was Detroit. Booooring. Won a ring, competed for another. On the other hand, Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns are exciting. And they have never even been to an NBA finals.

And you know what. I'm absolutely fine with watching a boring product win titles.

I love Brandon. But he ain't no Clyde.

 

[blue32]

Roy's iso game is boring. The fact that the team slows it down to fit him as a player makes the game boring.

nah, I love watching Roy break down his defender and score at will.

It's rather awesome to know we have that guy on our team.


I never was a CP3 fan, so I vote no.

 

[BengalDuck]

Yeah this was puzzling to me as well. Rudy would start at SG and play ALL of his minutes at SG with Webster or Bayless picking up the scraps. I don't see why Rudy would play SF at all.

PG - Paul / Miller or Blake / Bayless
SG - Fernandez / Webster / Bayless
SF - Batum / Webster / Outlaw
PF - Aldridge / Outlaw / Howard
C - Oden / Pryzbilla / Aldridge

Written in a way that, essentially, 2 of the 3 of Batum, Webster, and Rudy are always in the game.

And i think Webster is better than Rudy, hence he starts.

 

[Buzz Killington]

I would not trade Roy for CP3.

Roy is possibly going to be the best Blazer in Blazers history, why mess with a good thing like that?

 

[Minstrel]

I would do it in a heartbeat. It would be akin to trading Clyde Drexler in his young prime for Magic Johnson in his young prime. Drexler is great and was the face of the franchise, but Magic was just better.

I love Roy and think he's amazing. I just think Paul is moreso.

As a by-product, I think it would allow a more effective use of Portland's young talent. Paul/Fernandez is a better long-term backcourt than Roy/???.

That ??? could be Bayless, but it's unsure right now.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I would do it in a heartbeat. It would be akin to trading Clyde Drexler in his young prime for Magic Johnson in his young prime. Drexler is great and was the face of the franchise, but Magic was just better.

I love Roy and think he's amazing. I just think Paul is moreso.

Good analogy.

 

[Buzz Killington]

the thing is, the way New Orleans is going, we wouldn't even have to give up Roy... or Oden or Aldridge.

Too bad no expiring contract...that and young talent could get it done for broke owners!

 

[LittleAlex]

I would not do the deal.

No reason other then I like Roy more then I like CP3.

It a pretty tough descision though.

 

[B-Roy]

I would not trade Roy for CP3.

Roy is possibly going to be the best Blazer in Blazers history, why mess with a good thing like that?

Because Paul would become the best Blazer in history, and possibly the best point guard to have ever played the game.

 

[B-Roy]

the thing is, the way New Orleans is going, we wouldn't even have to give up Roy... or Oden or Aldridge.

Too bad no expiring contract...that and young talent could get it done for broke owners!

Uh, no. If you think an expiring is all you need to get Paul, 20 teams in the league would be calling the Hornets GM right this second.

 

[andalusian]

I would do it in a heartbeat. It would be akin to trading Clyde Drexler in his young prime for Magic Johnson in his young prime. Drexler is great and was the face of the franchise, but Magic was just better.

Magic was the most versatile PG ever. He played center sometimes, for crying out loud.

The real question is - would you do it with Clyde and Isiah? Because CP3 is Isiah #2, not Magic.

 

[RR7]

I would do it in a heartbeat. It would be akin to trading Clyde Drexler in his young prime for Magic Johnson in his young prime. Drexler is great and was the face of the franchise, but Magic was just better.

I love Roy and think he's amazing. I just think Paul is moreso.

As a by-product, I think it would allow a more effective use of Portland's young talent. Paul/Fernandez is a better long-term backcourt than Roy/???.

That ??? could be Bayless, but it's unsure right now.

And what if that question mark is Rudy? Rudy will get beat off the dribble by faster PGs just as often as he will get abused in the post by bigger SGs. So if you're already sacrificing a little bit on the defensive end....

 

[RR7]

Magic was the most versatile PG ever. He played center sometimes, for crying out loud.

The real question is - would you do it with Clyde and Isiah? Because CP3 is Isiah #2, not Magic.

The difficulty with that comparison for me is, I think Roy is, or at the very least will be, a better leader and true #1 option than Clyde was.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Uh, no. If you think an expiring is all you need to get Paul, 20 teams in the league would be calling the Hornets GM right this second.

Just wait until that franchise is going nowhere with dwindling attendance and less and less fan support.

 

[Minstrel]

the thing is, the way New Orleans is going, we wouldn't even have to give up Roy... or Oden or Aldridge.

Too bad no expiring contract...that and young talent could get it done for broke owners!

Even if it were true that their owners would be willing to raffle off their once-per-generation point guard for financial reasons, the market wouldn't just be Portland. Nearly every team in the NBA would be interested, so a serious bidding war would ensue. That would drive the price up to more fair rates of returns. It doesn't matter if people know/think New Orleans has to deal...what matters is that they have to out-bid everyone else.

In any case, I sincerely doubt the Hornets ever trade Paul. They'll get rid of everyone else first. They wouldn't have taken on Okafor's long, expensive contract if they were that desperate for money.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Because Paul would become the best Blazer in history, and possibly the best point guard to have ever played the game.

That remains to be seen. Right now Roy has been doing his work in a Blazers Uniform. You just don't trade your star players in their prime (or not even yet in the prime) when you are highly competative and eyeing the championship. Who does that kind of stuff?

 

[Minstrel]

And what if that question mark is Rudy? Rudy will get beat off the dribble by faster PGs just as often as he will get abused in the post by bigger SGs. So if you're already sacrificing a little bit on the defensive end....

Rudy can't handle the ball well enough to play point guard. And I think he'd at a greater defensive disadvantage at point guard than at shooting guard.

 

[B-Roy]

That remains to be seen. Right now Roy has been doing his work in a Blazers Uniform. You just don't trade your star players in their prime (or not even yet in the prime) when you are highly competative and eyeing the championship. Who does that kind of stuff?

When the playing you are getting back is better and younger? I think everyone does.

 

[PapaG]

Why would New Orleans take a lesser player (yes, I feel Paul is a better player at this point) in Roy who is signed to a max extension?

 

[B-Roy]

Just wait until that franchise is going nowhere with dwindling attendance and less and less fan support.

Well, you seem to know the future, so I can't argue with you I guess.

 

[Buzz Killington]

When the playing you are getting back is better and younger? I think everyone does.

Name a time its happened. Team competing for a championship trades their franchise player for another one who is "younger and better" and it has worked out.

 

[Minstrel]

Magic was the most versatile PG ever. He played center sometimes, for crying out loud.

I'm not comparing their styles, simply that Paul is the best point guard of his generation and on a par with Magic Johnson.

The real question is - would you do it with Clyde and Isiah? Because CP3 is Isiah #2, not Magic.

Paul is miles better than Thomas. Thomas is very overrated. His career-best PER was 22.2. Paul's first two seasons in the NBA were 22.0 and 22.1. His last two seasons were 28.3 and 30.

I wouldn't trade Drexler for Thomas, because that would be a downgrade. Paul is an upgrade on Roy, as Magic Johnson would be on Clyde Drexler.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Thomas will have more rings than CP3 will. If Paul was Magic Johnson, do you think he'll win multiple rings?

I say he wins zero and Roy wins a few.

the hornets are not even really competative anymore with CP3 at the helm. Sure he's a good point and has a good offensive game....but Magic Johnson? come on. perhaps John Stockton is more accurate, no? he didn't have any rings either, was a pure point too.

 

[Minstrel]

Thomas will have more rings than CP3 will. If Paul was Magic Johnson, do you think he'll win multiple rings?

If you give him Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Norm Nixon, etc? And coached by a young Pat Riley? Yes, I do.

I know this is still a controversial claim, but teams win championships, not individuals.

 

[Buzz Killington]

If you give him Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Norm Nixon, etc? And coached by a young Pat Riley? Yes, I do.

I know this is still a controversial claim, but teams win championships, not individuals.

Would you trade Drexler in his prime, during the Blazers run of the early 1990s for John Stockton?

 

[B-Roy]

Name a time its happened. Team competing for a championship trades their franchise player for another one who is "younger and better" and it has worked out.

It hasn't happened because no team is stupid enough to trade a BETTER superstar player for a WORSE one.

 

[Buzz Killington]

It hasn't happened because no team is stupid enough to trade a BETTER superstar player for a WORSE one.

sure, it happens all the time when a team needs to shed salaries or blow a team up because of bad financial situations or dead fan support. Teams competing for the title and expected to compete, however, do not

 

[B-Roy]

sure, it happens all the time when a team needs to shed salaries or blow a team up because of bad financial situations or dead fan support.

*Sigh*

Tell me how trading Paul for Roy sheds salaries.

Tell me how the Hornets have no fan support.

Tell me how the Hornets are trying to blow up their team.

 

[Buzz Killington]

*Sigh*

Tell me how trading Paul for Roy sheds salaries.

Tell me how the Hornets have no fan support.

Tell me how the Hornets are trying to blow up their team.

I'm not saying that we need to trade Roy. It can get done with expiring contracts and young talent for a cheap owner trying to save money.

The Hornets will have no fan support because they are in a depressed economy known as New Orleans. As the economy gets worse, no one is going to be able to afford tickets and they will not be a viable business in that city any more.

They are a team on the decline....unless you can see them just magically coming back because of Okafor? What else? Peja? come on...be realistic...the team had their peak several years ago, they need major player movements combined with the city of New Orleans becoming booming again to survive. I give that franchise 5-7 years in that city max before they will need to pack up and move.

 

[tlongII]

No way. More superstar swingmen lead their teams to championships than point guards.