So I wanted to figure out who the top 5 point guards are

[blue9]

that still couldn't factor in the secondary defender... perimiter blowbys, etc... unless there was someone physically marking down what happened... and that'd be toughto do live unless you had a stenographer. lol.

Yeah, unless there's some crazy program that can identify individuals (of course there is, but...) you'd have to manually tabulate the stat. To start out I'd probably just assign credit to whoever contests the shot, rather than worry about primary/secondary defenders. If it's a break-away it wouldn't be assigned to anybody, but if it's uncontested in the half-court I'd assign it to whoever allowed the shot to go uncontested.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well you guys feel free to take my findings and tweak or add to them. Like I said, it's not a perfect system lol


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[blue9]

Well you guys feel free to take my findings and tweak or add to them. Like I said, it's not a perfect system lol

I'm now talking about things that haven't even been tabulated! Not making suggestions for what you could do.

 

[PDXFonz]

It's so hard to gauge individual defense unless you use the eye test. I wish their was a better model of stat keeping

On ball defensive TO rate? Opponent isolation TS%?

 

[blue9]

The worst thing about attempting to create a defensive stat is that you can play textbook perfect defense and the offensive player can still score.

 

[magnifier661]

On ball defensive TO rate? Opponent isolation TS%?

TO rate could account for a team effort. That's why defense is so hard to track. Defense is really a team category, while most shooting can be more attributed to individual performance.

Yes I know assisted shots usually give higher %, but in the end, the shooter is shooting

 

[rasheedfan2005]

If you are able to skew the numbers so lillard is #1 id say your effort is complete

 

[KeepOnRollin]

No NBA player has scored more points in the fourth quarter this season than Damian Lillard.

 

[magnifier661]

No NBA player has scored more points in the fourth quarter this season than Damian Lillard.

I saw that tweet and can't find the stat. Do you have a link?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Not offhand. Saw it on the Blazers Facebook

 

[magnifier661]

Not offhand. Saw it on the Blazers Facebook

I'll take Blazers word for it. I just want to see the comparison to the other players

 

[Natebishop3]

I didn't want to use anything too crazy. I even thought about doing three point percentage but Parker is shooting like 55% on 26 attempts. Would have totally skewed the rankings.


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[rasheedfan2005]

Use clutch factor then give bonus points for being on the best fucking team in all sports