So is that it?

[Nikolokolus]

It's too early to jump off the bridge, IMO. The timetable for recovery from arthroscopic surgery to repair a meniscus is usually about a month. Camby could be back before the AllStar break. Roy probably will take a bit longer because his knees are worse, but could be back shortly after the All-Star break. If the team can small-ball up and stay close to the 8th spot, who knows what happens. No reason to rush into a trade until we see what the record is prior to the trade deadline.

Who's talking about "jumping off of a bridge?" A team can only take so much and Camby is/was a key pillar keeping the roof from collapsing in on itself. So where you think this is jumping off a bridge, really the bridge is about to fall out from underneath our feet; the question is, do you want to go down with it (ie. holding onto aging assets and getting nothing in return) or do you want to make a dash for the bank and try to keep from getting soaked? That is to say flipping these older guys with no future with the team for something even if that something is just draft picks and potential.

 

[illmatic99]

Ugh. Babbitt. What a wasted pick.

I'm not as angry about the Webster trade as I am about the draft. Seraphin, Pittman, and Whiteside were right there for the taking, and we passed on them.

 

[hasoos]

Ugh. Babbitt. What a wasted pick.

I'm not as angry about the Webster trade as I am about the draft. Seraphin, Pittman, and Whiteside were right there for the taking, and we passed on them.

I think the most disturbing part about Babbit to me so far, is the fact with the weak ass lineup that we are fielding this year that he hasn't even cracked the rotation as a backup. I expect most first rounders to at least get some bench time, especially when that 1st round draft pick plays a position the team is weak in. Right now we run Batum at SF, and rotate a SG out of position there for backup. What does that say about Babbit? We play a guy out of position before we play you. That, isn't good.

 

[MIXUM]

only way cho can make a deal is draft picks. seriously if we trade miller or joel for picks....

we wont be able to field a team

 

[illmatic99]

I think the most disturbing part about Babbit to me so far, is the fact with the weak ass lineup that we are fielding this year that he hasn't even cracked the rotation as a backup. I expect most first rounders to at least get some bench time, especially when that 1st round draft pick plays a position the team is weak in. Right now we run Batum at SF, and rotate a SG out of position there for backup. What does that say about Babbit? We play a guy out of position before we play you. That, isn't good.

Rice and MB keep raving about his shooting in practice. I don't think Nate is convinced.

How cool would it be if he got some PT and broke out into a legit contributor?

 

[jlprk]

When we got Camby, that made Juwan Howard expendible...

NOT IN MY OPINION!!!!!!!

Camby has a history of injuries and I saw this coming.

 

[MIXUM]

i dont see what they have to lose. we are playing shitty teams. give babbit some run.

 

[maxiep]

When we got Camby, that made Juwan Howard expendible...

NOT IN MY OPINION!!!!!!!

Camby has a history of injuries and I saw this coming.

Juwan Howard left us. We didn't dump him. The guy went ring shopping, for more sun and for no income tax. Can you blame him?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Even if we don't make any massive trades; what is the purpose of having Sean Marks on the roster? Is he gonna make the difference between going to the playoffs or not. If we can really get Anthony Randolph for a draft pick, when are we gonna do it? or we could pick up Sean Williams out of the D-league. this guy is only 24, a terrific athlete and supposedly is staying out of trouble and working harder. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/D-League-Showcase-Profiles-Call-Up-Candidates-Part-One--3616/

It seems like it would be worth it to start trying to find some young big guy who could play for years.

 

[oldmangrouch]

it is unreal how people are forgetting how long it takes to become a good team again. you have to hit a homerun in the draft to have a chance. these same people will bitch and moan how bad we suck.

you retool not rebuild. dont know why thats so tough to understand.

Miller, Camby, and Joel are in their dotage, and won't be around when the league returns in the fall of 2012. Trade them, or let them sit in their wheelchairs until they grow mold - they are not part of the team's future.

Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[hasoos]

Rice and MB keep raving about his shooting in practice. I don't think Nate is convinced.

How cool would it be if he got some PT and broke out into a legit contributor?

It would be way cool. What are they waiting for? Throw this kid into the fire and see if he can ball.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Rice and MB keep raving about his shooting in practice. I don't think Nate is convinced.

How cool would it be if he got some PT and broke out into a legit contributor?

If the Mike's said it, it must be true.

 

[MIXUM]

and what are they gonna get us? orlandos 2nd rounder lol?

Who will PG? Mills LMAO

Who will play center???? LA?

Who will play PF????

Stop you are just being dumb unless you honestly believ these guys will bring back players at same position.

 

[Mediocre Man]

and what are they gonna get us? orlandos 2nd rounder lol?

Who will PG? Mills LMAO

Who will play center???? LA?

Who will play PF????

Stop you are just being dumb unless you honestly believ these guys will bring back players at same position.

Who cares about this season? Build around LA, Batum and Matthews and move on.

 

[jlprk]

Juwan Howard left us. We didn't dump him. The guy went ring shopping, for more sun and for no income tax. Can you blame him?

He said he wanted to stay with the Blazers as often and as sincerely as Camby has said it. If we trade Camby, I expect some will again comfort themselves with similar revisionist history.

 

[Minstrel]

When we got Camby, that made Juwan Howard expendible...

NOT IN MY OPINION!!!!!!!

Not in my opinion, either. Juwan Howard being terrible made him expendable.

Good guy, though. I wish him well in future endeavors.

 

[MIXUM]

THATS MY POINT!!!!! What about next year and the following? We will be starting Mills and Marks! Camby, Joel, Oden will be GONE. Miller GONE! And we will have no money for free agents to come in. We will be signing guys like luther head. Thats why you need a creative gm.

 

[andalusian]

All aboard the Luther Head train! Choo Choo.

 

[jlprk]

Not in my opinion, either. Juwan Howard being terrible made him expendable.

You think he's more terrible than Marks? Will we win 50 games with Marks starting much of the season, the same situation as last year with Howard?

 

[hasoos]

Ugh. Babbitt. What a wasted pick.

I'm not as angry about the Webster trade as I am about the draft. Seraphin, Pittman, and Whiteside were right there for the taking, and we passed on them.

I still think that the end goal was to move up and pick up Larry Sanders, and we missed by one pick.

 

[Nikolokolus]

THATS MY POINT!!!!! What about next year and the following? We will be starting Mills and Marks! Camby, Joel, Oden will be GONE. Miller GONE! And we will have no money for free agents to come in. We will be signing guys like luther head. Thats why you need a creative gm.

I fully expect this to blow your mind, but if Cho trades these really old guys for draft picks/players presumably there will be draft picks and/or trades for players that will replace Mills and Marks ... as hard as it is to imagine either of those guys being replaceable.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

THATS MY POINT!!!!! What about next year and the following? We will be starting Mills and Marks! Camby, Joel, Oden will be GONE. Miller GONE! And we will have no money for free agents to come in. We will be signing guys like luther head. Thats why you need a creative gm.

Oden is NOT necessarily gone. He is just injured, but he can heal. Miller is NOT necessarily gone. He is signed for another year on that contract (team option). Free agency - we will have at least our MLE to attempt to sign another player (see Matthews) who can produce.

A team built around Aldridge, Batum, Matthews, and Oden is a good start, in fact, better than some sucky teams now have. We just have to look for talent and stay healthy. What if Elliot Williams is just what we need to replace Roy? You never know.

 

[LittleAlex]

Oden is NOT necessarily gone. He is just injured, but he can heal. Miller is NOT necessarily gone. He is signed for another year on that contract (team option). Free agency - we will have at least our MLE to attempt to sign another player (see Matthews) who can produce.

A team built around Aldridge, Batum, Matthews, and Oden is a good start, in fact, better than some sucky teams now have. We just have to look for talent and stay healthy. What if Elliot Williams is just what we need to replace Roy? You never know.

Is that all?
Sounds easy enough.

 

[hasoos]

Oden is NOT necessarily gone. He is just injured, but he can heal. Miller is NOT necessarily gone. He is signed for another year on that contract (team option). Free agency - we will have at least our MLE to attempt to sign another player (see Matthews) who can produce.

A team built around Aldridge, Batum, Matthews, and Oden is a good start, in fact, better than some sucky teams now have. We just have to look for talent and stay healthy. What if Elliot Williams is just what we need to replace Roy? You never know.

Well I can tell you I know that Elliot Williams isn't the replacement to Roy. In fact I would go so far as to say he is the Anti Roy. Before his knee surgeries he was athletic and raw where Roy was polished and not athletic. He is closer to a Travis Outlaw than a Roy. I see that guy as a raw project who they intended to mold into a specific type of player.

 

[Minstrel]

You think he's more terrible than Marks? Will we win 50 games with Marks starting much of the season, the same situation as last year with Howard?

Not MORE terrible, no.

Will we win 50 games with Marks? Perhaps not. But if we had the Roy of last year, even with the time he missed, we might.

 

[RoyToy]

The Blazers had a chance to draft Durant.

 

[Nikolokolus]

The Blazers had a chance to draft Durant.

"Thanks KP ..."

 

[e_blazer]

What do you have against Durant's knees that you'd wish he was a Blazer?

 

[huevonkiller]

Not in my opinion, either. Juwan Howard being terrible made him expendable.

Good guy, though. I wish him well in future endeavors.

I hope he gets benched!