So, it's Romney?

[MARIS61]

Mitt Romney is just another pretty face who will say or do whatever he feels will get him elected. He has no moral code, no bright ideas, no vision, and no conscience.

I nominate him as the most likely to be nothing more than a corporate lapdog if elected.

 

[MARIS61]

Petraeus was the guy that won it, not Gates, IMO.

Agreed. Gates accomplished nothing.

 

[maxiep]

You are aware that the Oregon Health Plan is a massively expensive program (to Oregon taxpayers) serving a tiny minority of well-connected Oregonians.

Seems like it's the exact kind of big government waste you are usually opposed to.

Re-read my post and ask yourself again what I think of the OHP, m'kay?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Patraeus was the guy that won it, not Gates, IMO.

Won what?

 

[Denny Crane]

Won what?

The "war" in Iraq.

 

[maxiep]

The "war" in Iraq.

Speaking of which, I am consistently being told that going in with overwhelming force to kill or capture one of the world's great villans was a "gutsy call" with many people in the Administration saying it was the "gutsiest call [they've] ever seen". Wouldn't approving the surge--which undeniably turned the tide in Iraq--be a bigger "gutsy call"? It was (and remains) an unpopular conflict where there would be no one moment defining success and putting thousands of troops in harm's way. To me, approving the action to get Bin Laden is like saying going with the sausage and mushroom over pepperoni and olive is a "gutsy call".

 

[Denny Crane]

Lincoln won a war that became unpopular over time. But it didn't happen until he fired a few generals and stumbled onto one that had the winning plan. I see the surge and Patraeus as a similar situation. Not so much a gutsy move as lucking into the right general.

Gates was a good choice because his appointment took the scrutiny off the Pentagon and Secy. of Defense.

IMO

 

[maxiep]

Lincoln won a war that became unpopular over time. But it didn't happen until he fired a few generals and stumbled onto one that had the winning plan. I see the surge and Patraeus as a similar situation. Not so much a gutsy move as lucking into the right general.

Gates was a good choice because his appointment took the scrutiny off the Pentagon and Secy. of Defense.

IMO

I wasn't comparing enacting the surge strategy with "gutsy calls" throughout history--Inchon, crossing the Delaware and the actions during the Cuban Missle Crisis are all more impressive--I was comparing the fawning over Obama's relatively easy decision vs. the lack of media comment over President Bush's more difficult one (especially after roasting him over the coals for Iraq in the first place).

 

[Denny Crane]

I wasn't comparing enacting the surge strategy with "gutsy calls" throughout history--Inchon, crossing the Delaware and the actions during the Cuban Missle Crisis are all more impressive--I was comparing the fawning over Obama's relatively easy decision vs. the lack of media comment over President Bush's more difficult one (especially after roasting him over the coals for Iraq in the first place).

Like I said, I see the situation with Bush and Lincoln as similar. The northeastern "liberal" establishment roasted Lincoln over the coals, etc.

 

[jlprk]

Why is that dollface Romney dying his hair white on the sides? Is Quayle advising him?