So Much for the First Amendment

[PapaG]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-15-06-44-20

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A Southern California filmmaker linked to an anti-Islamic movie inflaming protests across the Middle East was interviewed by federal probation officers at a Los Angeles sheriff's station but was not arrested or detained, authorities said early Saturday.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, was interviewed at the station in his hometown of Cerritos, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Don Walker said.

Federal officials have said they were investigating the activities of Nakoula, who has been convicted of financial crimes. If the probation department determines Nakoula violated terms of his release, a judge could send him back to prison.

Walker said Nakoula traveled voluntarily in a squad car with deputies.

"He went to the Cerritos station to talk with probation officers. He's not under any arrest," Walker said.

The deputy said he doesn't have information on the interview or how long it lasted. KNBC-TV reported that Nakoula went to the station early Saturday morning.

The TV station said that media had been staking out the home at the end of a cul de sac in the Southern California city when the man emerged wearing a coat, hat, scarf and glasses.

There was no answer early Saturday at the federal probation department's California's central district office in Los Angeles.

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[PapaG]

ANTI-ISLAM FILMMAKER DONATED MILLION DOLLARS TO OBAMA CAMPAIGN

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/09/15/Obama-Contribution-Anti-Islam-Filmmaker

Blame the movie.

Blame the movie.

Blame the movie.

Even though "the movie" was on YouTube for months prior to the collective indignation of thousands of Middle Eastern Islamists all coming together on the eleventh anniversary of September 11th (through wild coincidence, no doubt), we are being told by our government and our media overlords that we must blame the movie.

You see, if we blame the movie for the burning of our foreign outposts and the brutal murders of four Americans (including our Libyan ambassador who was reportedly raped), we won't blame the burners and the looters and the murderers and the rapists.

You see, if we blame the movie for the Middle East burning, we won't blames the Islamists who are doing the burning and looting and raping and murdering.

Which means we won't further connect the dots and blame Obama's failed Middle East policy; the Obama Doctrine of backing away from the region and allowing events to unfold as America stands idly by -- as the Islamists in the Muslim Brotherhood grab hold of power in Egypt, a country that was once our largest and closest ally.

Blame the filmmaker.

Hunt him.

Out him.

Demonize him.

Burn the straw man!

And all at the direction of a president of the United States who has sworn to uphold the Constitution, you know, the same Constitution that treasures the right of free expression and speech above all else.

But no one asks … What about Bill Maher?

Bill Maher?

Bill Maher made a comedy/documentary called "Religulous" that's most famous for mercilessly mocking Christianity. But what people forget is that the last twenty-minutes or so of the film make a damning case against Islam.

Bill Maher made a film that mocked Islam.

Oh, yes, he did.

Bill Maher also contributed $1 million to a pro-Obama super PAC.

 

[PapaG]

I also wonder how this movie will go over in the Muslim world. Obama's own administration gave access to the film makers in order to spike the bin Laden football on the big screen.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/aug/29/film-bin-laden-killing-helped-obama

Film about Bin Laden killing helped by Obama administration, says watchdog
White House wanted to back 'gutsy' portrayal of US president in new Kathryn Bigelow film Zero Dark Thirty, claims Judicial Watch.

Newly released documents prove that Barack Obama's administration gave enthusiastic help to the Oscar-winning team behind a new film about the killing of Osama bin Laden, according to a rightwing US government watchdog.

Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal's new film Zero Dark Thirty centres on the US Navy Seal unit that raided Bin Laden's compound in northern Pakistan in May 2011 on the orders of the US president. The project drew flak from Republicans earlier this year after it emerged that Obama's administration shared information with the production team.

The latest missives were obtained by the Judicial Watch group under the US freedom of information act. "These new documents provide more backing to the serious charge that the Obama administration played fast and loose with national security information to help Hollywood filmmakers," said Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. "No wonder we've had to fight one year of stonewalling from the administration. These new documents show there is no doubt that Obama['s] White House was intensely interested in this film that was set to portray President Obama as 'gutsy'."

To the casual observer, emails between CIA staff and Bigelow's team have a somewhat mundane quality to them, though they do suggest a certain fanboyesque enthusiasm for the Hollywood project. Screenwriter Boal's proposed floor plan for the Bin Laden compound is verified by the agency, which cheerfully confirms the height of the walls on the third floor.

 

[PapaG]

[video=youtube;bKCwQnIygcw]

 

[MARIS61]

What's that horrible stench?

Ah, it's the smell of PapaG's desperation.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

‘Muslims’ Movie Producer Was Arrested for PCP, Snitched for Feds

Before he was involved in the making of a noxious video that provided an excuse for anti-American riots in the Middle East, and before he was convicted of federal bank fraud, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula was arrested on charges relating to the making of angel dust.

Court records reviewed by Danger Room show that Nakoula and a co-defendant were brought before the Los Angeles County Superior Courthouse in Downey, California on April 15, 1997. They were charged with possessing the narcotic’s chemical precursors with “the intent to manufacture phencyclidine,” otherwise known as angel dust or PCP.

In the latest in a series of odd revelations about the man thought to be at center of a viral video, “The Innocence of Muslims,” which has been publicly seized upon by people in Libya, Egypt, and Tunisia as a reason to attack U.S. embassies. At least four American government employees have been killed during the confrontations. And that’s brought enormous scrutiny to Nakoula, an Egyptian immigrant and gas station owner, who has alternatively confirmed and denied a role in the making of “Innocence.”

In recent days, we’ve learned that Nakoula used 14 different aliases — including “P.J. Tobacco” and “Kritbag Difrat” — in a complex check kiting scheme. We’ve learned that Nakoula was sentenced to 21 months in federal custody for the affair. According to The Smoking Gun, Nakoula was released from the the United States Penitentiary in Lompoc, California in September, 2010. He spent the following nine months in and out of a halfway house in Long Beach. Unnamed officials tell ABC News he wrote the script for the film, which depicts the prophet Muhammad as a thug and a child molester, while in prison.

The punishment was relatively gentle, even though it wasn’t Nakoula’s first encounter with the law. That’s because Nakoula had decided to become a federal informant.

“I am sorry for what happened. Now I know it was wrong. I decide to cooperate with the government to retrieve some of those mistakes,” Nakoula told Judge Christina Snyder in June of 2010, according to a sentencing transcript obtained by The Smoking Gun.

The man Nakoula agreed to help the feds catch was Eiad Salameh, the ringleader of the check kiting scheme and “a notorious fraudster who has been tracked for more than a decade by state and federal investigators,” the Smoking Gun says. “In his debriefings, Nakoula said he was recruited as a ‘runner’ by Salameh, who pocketed the majority of money generated by the bank swindles.”

Because of the promised help, because of his many ailments (including Hepatitis C and diabetes) and maybe because of a friendly letter from a friend calling Nakoula “a God-fearing man whose first priority is his family,” Bakoula was sentenced to just 21 months in prison.

That’s in spie of his previous arrests. In August of 1991, he was convicted on two counts of selling watered-down gasoline. And then came the arrest for PCP manufacturing in 1997. A local judge found there was probable cause for the case to continue against Nakoula and a co-defendant, Khaled Yameen Abraham, on August 6th of that year. Nakoula and Abraham were also briefly charged with conspiracy.

Three months later, Abraham was convicted on the PCP charge. Nakoula, on the other hand, was not. Nearly five years later, the case against him was dismissed, for reasons unknown.

According to The Daily Beast, Nakoula and Abraham weren’t just attempting to make PCP. The news site claims that the pair were arrested for trying to mass-produce methamphetamine. Nakoula was arrested on March 27, 1997, according to the Beast, with $45,000 in hundreds and twenties in a paper lunch bag on the seat beside him. Abraham’s house in Lake Elsinore contained 30 boxes of pseudoephedrine, meth’s central ingredient. Another 99 cases were allegedly found at the storage facility. Danger Room hasn’t been able to confirm this account. But it’s entirely possible that Abraham and Nakoula were simultaneously busted for being both PCP and meth makers.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/pcp/

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Why are the feds picking on this poor upstanding citizen?!?

 

[Denny Crane]

Ambassador to Libya is dead. GM is alive, but gifted to the unions.

 

[maxiep]

Why are the feds picking on this poor upstanding citizen?!?

C'mon Sly, do you believe without this video he wouldn't have been picked up by the police? It reeks of governmental bullying. You did something with which the government disapproves, so an investigation will be done and they'll find something. Furthermore, your name will be publicized.

It's meant to send a message.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

C'mon Sly, do you believe without this video he wouldn't have been picked up by the police? It reeks of governmental bullying. You did something with which the government disapproves, so an investigation will be done and they'll find something. Furthermore, your name will be publicized.

It's meant to send a message.

If you're on probation and you do something that gets the attention of law enforcement you should expect to be jacked up by the cops. He agreed to the probation, he agreed that his home could be searched at anytime for any reason. He agreed that he would answer any questions at any time by law enforcement. If he didn't want to be released early under these conditions he should have sat his ass in jail and served the remainder of his sentence.

 

[PapaG]

If you're on probation and you do something that gets the attention of law enforcement you should expect to be jacked up by the cops. He agreed to the probation, he agreed that his home could be searched at anytime for any reason. He agreed that he would answer any questions at any time by law enforcement. If he didn't want to be released early under these conditions he should have sat his ass in jail and served the remainder of his sentence.

The "movie" was made months ago. Nobody cared about it until Obama needed a scapegoat for his own incompetence.

Apparently free speech now gets the attention of the federal government, and the good little S2 sheeple take it in stride.

 

[maxiep]

If you're on probation and you do something that gets the attention of law enforcement you should expect to be jacked up by the cops. He agreed to the probation, he agreed that his home could be searched at anytime for any reason. He agreed that he would answer any questions at any time by law enforcement. If he didn't want to be released early under these conditions he should have sat his ass in jail and served the remainder of his sentence.

And why was he outed in the first place? Isn't it the responsibility of the government to protect him from harm? They burned through his public aliases in short order and now they're bringing him in for questioning? It's A Brave New World, I guess. Thank Ford...

 

[PapaG]

And why was he outed in the first place? Isn't it the responsibility of the government to protect him from harm? They burned through his public aliases in short order and now they're bringing him in for questioning? It's A Brave New World, I guess. Thank Ford...

Bill Maher mocks Islam in a real movie that actually was distributed outside of YouTube, gives Obama's SuperPAC $1 million, and nobody on the left bats an eye.

Selective outrage rocks. I believe in Maher's right to mock Islam, by the way, just as I believe in the right to make a stupid YouTube video that mocks Islam.

Neither acts should send the FBI to your house, at least not in the America of old.

 

[maxiep]

We've gone a long way from Salman Rushdie.

 

[PapaG]

We've gone a long way from Salman Rushdie.

The Middle East is in flames, and Obama needs a scapegoat.

What's wrong with putting a target on the head of an American citizen if it helps Barry in the polls?

Rushdie wasn't a Coptic Christian or American citizen, either, so the liberal elite had no problem defending his book. He posed no threat to the US government's control of its population.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

And why was he outed in the first place? Isn't it the responsibility of the government to protect him from harm? They burned through his public aliases in short order and now they're bringing him in for questioning? It's A Brave New World, I guess. Thank Ford...

Burned through aliases? He's used aliases before to commit financial fraud. While I don't know the terms of his probation I would imagine one of them would be, hey dude, no more aliases.

 

[maxiep]

Burned through aliases? He's used aliases before to commit financial fraud. While I don't know the terms of his probation I would imagine one of them would be, hey dude, no more aliases.

We're all posting with aliases on this site. How is it different to use an alias to post a video? Are we all criminals because we make political posts without using our real names?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Yes, it's true that you have diminished constitutional rights if you have been convicted of committing crime(s) in this country. That is a good thing!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The "movie" was made months ago. Nobody cared about it until Obama needed a scapegoat for his own incompetence.

Apparently free speech now gets the attention of the federal government, and the good little S2 sheeple take it in stride.

That's what I don't get about you. We disagree on this one small point, if this guy's past actions has put him in a position that he can get picked up and questioned by the police at any time for any reason that's on him. But to start labeling and insulting me is ridiculous. You're too intelligent and too informed to make the wild generalizations that you do. "The mods here do this...." "The sheeple..." You push people's buttons for a reaction and then you claim you're a victim when you get that reaction.

Do you really wish that everyone agreed with your views on politics? Just how special would your opinions be if everyone thought like you did? Isn't that fact that people disagree with you is what makes your opinions unique?

 

[maxiep]

Althouse weighs in: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/09/you-start-disputing-my-god-and-youve.html

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We're all posting with aliases on this site. How is it different to use an alias to post a video? Are we all criminals because we make political posts without using our real names?

Federal officials are investigating whether Nakoula, who has been convicted of financial crimes, has violated the terms of his five-year probation. If so, a judge could send him back to prison.

The probation department is reviewing the case of Nakoula, who pleaded no contest to bank fraud charges in 2010 and was banned from using computers or the Internet or using false identities as part of his sentence.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-15-06-44-20

It's different because as far as I know all of us who post here are allowed to use a computer, the internet and an alias.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

Sheeple: people who don't agree with PapaG.

You use the sheep thing to hide the fact that they merely disagree with your view. So, it's not that they're wrong because they don't agree with you but rather because they all think the same thing (which just happens to be a view you don't share).

 

[PapaG]

Sheeple: people who don't agree with PapaG.

You use the sheep thing to hide the fact that they merely disagree with your view. So, it's not that they're wrong because they don't agree with you but rather because they all think the same thing (which just happens to be a view you don't share).

Now, I use "sheeple" because I view most of them as "sheeple", and lacking any critical thought that falls outside of the Democratic Party platform.

Baaahhhhhhhhhh

 

[maxiep]

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/The-Unofficial-Campaign-s-Latest-Disinformation-Offensive

Here's the important bit:

In support of the administration’s attempt to deflect attention from the defects of its policy, our Department of Justice, which is by now little more than an arm of the President’s re-election campaign, has responded by having its subordinates track down and identify the film-maker, release his name and that of at least one of his associates to the press, and haul him in after midnight to check whether he has violated the terms of probation imposed on him two years ago in a bank fraud case. And, of course, the mainstream press – which constitutes this year, as it did four years ago, what one Journolist member in 2008 accurately termed Barack Obama’s “unofficial campaign” – has loyally fallen in line, reporting that the video “sparked” the disturbance in Benghazi and intimating thereby that the attack was a spontaneous outburst.

 

[maxiep]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-15-06-44-20

It's different because as far as I know all of us who post here are allowed to use a computer, the internet and an alias.

That's such a weak response. He has a right to privacy. He was outed, and outed by this Administration because they want to deflect their lack of preparation for a September 11th attack on us on this video that almost no one has seen.

If the right to privacy can protect a woman's right to choose, it can protect someone who makes a film and wishes to remain anonymous.

 

[PapaG]

That's such a weak response.

I thought the same thing. Imagine if the Bush feds tracked down chrisinpdx for the hate he spews at Christians on this board.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the entire bill of rights is basically a distant memory at this point

 

[SlyPokerDog]

That's such a weak response. He has a right to privacy. He was outed, and outed by this Administration because they want to deflect their lack of preparation for a September 11th attack on us on this video that almost no one has seen.

If the right to privacy can protect a woman's right to choose, it can protect someone who makes a film and wishes to remain anonymous.

Sorry but I don't feel that my response was weak. If he was an honest law abiding citizen I would agree with you but this man is a criminal on parole. IMO if he is violating the terms of his parole he has no expectation of privacy. Terms of his parole says no aliases, no computers, no internet. Posting a video on Youtube are violating some of the conditions of his parole.

If he had completed his parole I would agree with you too. In my mind completing his parole means he's no longer a criminal but while he's on parole he has rules to follow.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I thought the same thing. Imagine if the Bush feds tracked down chrisinpdx for the hate he spews at Christians on this board.

If Chrisinpdx is on parole for a hate crime and a condition of his parole is not to use a computer or the internet I would have no problem if he were arrested for posting on here and if I found out about it and discovered his real name I would have no problem posting it.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

freedom of speech? try telling a cop he is a piece of shit sometime


the right to a peaceful assembly?

anyone in america can legally have their door kicked in at anytime and be kidnapped for no reason, detained indefinitely and tortured

the bill of rights is a distant memory people

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
George Orwell