So the musical chairs game at backup PG continues. Its only Mid March.

[Nikolokolus]

Here’s the deal on the backup point guard thing:

They’re both good enough to play backup point guard minutes in the NBA. But not at the same time. As it stands, by using both guys and switching impulsively between them, neither one is doing much.

Man, Nate — pick a horse and ride him! Either one, I don’t care. Just decide which guy is best for this team right at this moment and stay with him. Show some confidence in him. Don’t yank him or steal his second-half minutes if he doesn’t play well in the second quarter. Nobody can play with one eye on the bench, frightened that his first mistake will land him a quick exit from the game.

Sorry, but the indecisiveness is not working.

Dwight J

Since I know you're quoting Dwight Jaynes and you didn't think of this by yourself I'm going to let myself agree with something you posted *resists the urge to throwup*

I totally agree. Neither has looked like they are worth a damn since Blake came back, and because both were pretty effective in his absence we can assume that they all of sudden didn't forget how to play; the uneven substitutions and utter lack of confidence Nate has given either one seem the most likely culprit for their utterly horrendous performance.

 

[MIXUM]

hey i enjoy every win but cmon its the grizz. who hasnt beat them down?

its like uconn beating chatanooga.... its a win but is everything ok all of a sudden?

 

[Da_O]

hey i enjoy every win but cmon its the grizz. who hasnt beat them down?

its like uconn beating chatanooga.... its a win but is everything ok all of a sudden?

Apparently Detroit.

You need to learn this isn't college basketball. There's such a thing as parity.

 

[Nikolokolus]

hey i enjoy every win but cmon its the grizz. who hasnt beat them down?

its like uconn beating chatanooga.... its a win but is everything ok all of a sudden?

First of all, I call 'bullshit'

Secondly, it sure beats the hell out of a loss no? Then again I'm sure you had a 1000 word rant all locked and loaded, but the Blazers spoiled your evening by winning.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

If the basic thrust of this post is that Nate needs to stop playing musical chairs with the point guards, then I agree. If it's true that we are not able to trade for a better point guard, then we better let the ones we have develop. And you can not develop playing 5-10 minutes a night. He needs to give the job to one or the other. I don't know if Sergio is ever going to be a top PG on any team, but I do know that he will never be a top point guard playing for Nate, so I would say that they should go with Bayless. He has the physical skills that would enable him to become a top perimeter defender (which we desperately need) and he appears to have the mental toughness to prosper under Nate's leadership style.

On the Jarret Jack situation, he certainly made a lot of mistakes for us last year. But he seems to be making improvement and I have read that Larry Bird really likes him as a player and I doubt that he would trade either him or Brandon Rush for Bayless at this time, so maybe he doesn't feel "pritchslapped"? (I don't know why I threw that in; I guess I felt uncomfortable sometimes when we talked about "pritchslapping" people.)

 

[barfo]

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Neil Goldschmidt?

barfo

 

[Nikolokolus]

On the Jarret Jack situation, he certainly made a lot of mistakes for us last year. But he seems to be making improvement and I have read that Larry Bird really likes him as a player and I doubt that he would trade either him or Brandon Rush for Bayless at this time, so maybe he doesn't feel "pritchslapped"? (I don't know why I threw that in; I guess I felt uncomfortable sometimes when we talked about "pritchslapping" people.)

Jack's still not a very efficient player, but he's probably exactly the kind of player that the Pacers need: hard nosed, tough, great locker room guy, and able to play a little bit of backup point or off the ball. My thinking is that both teams got what they wanted out of the deal. As it was, Jarret's time had run its course and him moving on had as much to do with making minutes for Rudy as acquiring a top flight point guard prospect.

 

[MIXUM]

Jack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bayless/sergio all day long and then some.

Its not close

 

[Nikolokolus]

Jack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bayless/sergio all day long and then some.

Its not close

Wow!? Just how many 'greater than' symbols is that? Sure looks like a lot, must mean Jarret is something like a million times better than either guy or something.

Boy, Mixum where would we be without your insightful and in-depth analyses?

Jack:
PER: 12.47
Per 36 stats: 14.1 pts, 4.2 assists, 3.6 rebounds, 2.5 turnovers 44% FG, 36% 3PT

Sergio:
PER: 11.64
Per 36 stats:10 points, 8 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 3.3 turnovers, 37% FG, 31% 3PT

Jerryd:
PER: 9.14
Per 36 stats: 12.8 pts, 4.5 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 3 turnovers, 37% FG, 26% 3PT

They all pretty much look like a turd sandwich if you ask me?

 

[MIXUM]

well at least jack can score.....

bayless and sergio cant say that

 

[Nikolokolus]

well at least jack can score.....

bayless and sergio cant say that

Go back and look at what I posted. Jack plays heavy minutes, of course his per game numbers are going to be higher than Chacho and Rex.

 

[bigbailes]

JJ is not a PG. i dont' know how many times i have to say this. he's thriving in Indy because he is playing the position he is best at, SG. him running the point looked alot like bayless running the point, they feel extremely uncomfortable and make horrible decisions.

 

[hasoos]

I agree that neither of the PG can get a rhythym with short amount of playing time that has been being received. The units need to play together to get some sort of cohesiveness going.

You can lament about Jack all you want. He would have been just another failed year at PG here. Just like Blake is. Just like Sergio is. Just like Bayless is. None of them have done a good job IMO. Sergio has been so horrible that it is hard to watch. He can't do anything out there. Bayless last couple of games he has gone back to being the over cautious Bayless. He seems to be afraid to do anything out there, always hesitating. Blake has been better than both, but always finds a way to make a bonehead mistake on a fast break. Always.