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kjironman1 said:
Aldridge left. Neil didn't trade him. He left.
Barton is still quite possibly the lowest BBiQ i have ever seen. Trading him for a quality backup when Mathews was healthy which Afflalo would have been was a good move. Turned out bad due to injury and later when the team went a different direction. Barton still is a bonehead on the court.
Meyers had his best season and was just coming off huge games against Marc Gasol. His shot was improving as it still is. Sure i could see 8 mil for 4 years instead but his numbers were pretty good going into that summer. Injury held him up last year and this year he is not in the rotation. Way too much emphasis on trading Meyers as he is a 7 foot backup that this team needs if Nurk gets any lengthy injury time.
Turner was just a 6th man candidate and yes i agree should probably got 14-15 instead of 17 but they also didn't get the cap bump that was projected. 108 million is quite a bit more than 99 mil.
Easy to pick apart decisions other people make when you are not in the position to make them. Not so easy to see the whole picture. Hind sight surely is 20/20.
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The only thing out of his control was Aldridge. Everything after that is on him. Batum trade was horrible got zero assets out of that unless we magically turn vonleh into a pick. Got nothing for Barton/afflallo. Meyers I could see after he played well offering him a contract but then he turned that deal down to “bet on himself” played horrible, got injured, AND GOT THE SAME FUCKING CONTRACT!!! like what is the logic there? Turner got 17 is worth 6-8. Allen Crabbe got 19, blame Allen if you want but Neil is the gm. Festus ezeli lol. Made a long term commitment to moe when he didn’t know what he had. Sold Crabbe for dead money. Gunna have to sell off more assets now cause we can’t afford them and/or they suck. Which part of this situation do you think Ended up being a good bet and reflects well on Neil?
 
chzbrgr said:
The only thing out of his control was Aldridge. Everything after that is on him. Batum trade was horrible got zero assets out of that unless we magically turn vonleh into a pick. Got nothing for Barton/afflallo. Meyers I could see after he played well offering him a contract but then he turned that deal down to “bet on himself” played horrible, got injured, AND GOT THE SAME FUCKING CONTRACT!!! like what is the logic there? Turner got 17 is worth 6-8. Allen Crabbe got 19, blame Allen if you want but Neil is the gm. Festus ezeli lol. Made a long term commitment to moe when he didn’t know what he had. Sold Crabbe for dead money. Gunna have to sell off more assets now cause we can’t afford them and/or they suck. Which part of this situation do you think Ended up being a good bet and reflects well on Neil?
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I honestly don't know who's we get on here that better than him. Potential GM's know how hard it is in Portland. Shit. People forget that outside of Evan Turner about the only player who WE didn't approach in 2016 was Bismack Biyombo. How do you beats the odds when that your chief FA options.
 
ripcityboy said:
I honestly don't know who's we get on here that better than him. Potential GM's know how hard it is in Portland. Shit. People forget that outside of Evan Turner about the only player who WE didn't approach in 2016 was Bismack Biyombo. How do you beats the odds when that your chief FA options.
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That's also the summer that EVERYONE had cap space.
You play your cards better & wait until the following summer when there was much less competition for services.

It's like when you go to the bar. You have to wait your turn while guys like me take first dibs on the girls. At the end of the night, you can take the ugly ones home. Or you can go on a weeknight when there's a whole lot less competition.
 
ripcityboy said:
I honestly don't know who's we get on here that better than him. Potential GM's know how hard it is in Portland. Shit. People forget that outside of Evan Turner about the only player who WE didn't approach in 2016 was Bismack Biyombo. How do you beats the odds when that your chief FA options.
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Worry about who you replace him with later. Nothing I listed other than turner and ezeli was a fa blunder. Mostly trades and overall overvaluation of the assets he had.
 
tester551 said:
That's also the summer that EVERYONE had cap space.
You play your cards better & wait until the following summer when there was much less competition for services.

It's like when you go to the bar. You have to wait your turn while guys like me take first dibs on the girls. At the end of the night, you can take the ugly ones home. Or you can go on a weeknight when there's a whole lot less competition.
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If your attractive you always take the ugly ones home. I think that's my point. Even regarding GMs.
 
hoopsjock said:
Like I said in the rest of my comments, I think the lack of depth from all the trades this summer is a factor too.

I just don't think in today's game a perimeter defender who has no shooting ability at all is worth that much. At least develop a corner three shot like Bowen had to where you had some use on offense.
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I would also add that Bowen on any other team than the Spurs would have been less of an asset.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Chill out. Watch some porn, or something.
Many of Neil's trades are made without advanced knowledge by the public, i.e. we won't know about it until it
happens. Furthermore, it's usual for Neil's deadline trades to take place on the day of the deadline. We can hope,
but it's very likely that we'll have to wait to see what tomorrow brings.
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I already watched ALL the porn.
 
hoopsjock said:
Like I said in the rest of my comments, I think the lack of depth from all the trades this summer is a factor too.

I just don't think in today's game a perimeter defender who has no shooting ability at all is worth that much. At least develop a corner three shot like Bowen had to where you had some use on offense.
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Your argument is valid and flawed, Roberson has incredible value to OKC because he covers a massive weakness on one end and he doesn't need to do much on offense when you gave Melo, PG and Westbrook.

However, should he develop as a three point threat ala Bowen OKC could easily become a legit title contender the same way the Spurs did with Bowens transformation.
 
tester551 said:
That's also the summer that EVERYONE had cap space.
You play your cards better & wait until the following summer when there was much less competition for services.
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Because of cj's extension there would have been no cap space the year after, it was use it or lose it
 
andalusian said:
Because of cj's extension there would have been no cap space the year after, it was use it or lose it
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False. You wait on CJ extension as well. No need to extend him that summer. Could've waited one more year with a small cap hold
 
tester551 said:
False. You wait on CJ extension as well. No need to extend him that summer. Could've waited one more year with a small cap hold
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Really, you let a player like cj go into ufa status and risk losing him?
 
So you risk that he takes the 1 year qualifying offer?
 
andalusian said:
So you risk that he takes the 1 year qualifying offer?
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Yep. How many players have ever taken the QO? Not many.
It's the same thing Portland did with Nurk last summer. Are you really worried that he'll take the QO?
 
tester551 said:
Yep. How many players have ever taken the QO? Not many.
It's the same thing Portland did with Nurk last summer. Are you really worried that he'll take the QO?
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Of course you do, you do not think cj would have got the max from other teams as a ufa? Let's say the team does not offer him the extension, do not get turner,who knows if they do the Nurk trade and finish the year with 38 wins and out of the playoffs, you do not think cj thinks about being free and going to NY where his girlfriend is?

I mean the blazers did not value him enough to extend him, the team is meh and he could be the lead guard in the media capital of the world.

There is always risk, and extending cj was as close to a risk free decision as there was in 2016. Heck, the very premise of your suggestion that there would be less competition in 2017 was unknown based on cap projections. It is easy to see things in hindsight, but the turner signing made sense.

The Crabbe match and myle, these were questionable
 
andalusian said:
Of course you do, you do not think cj would have got the max from other teams as a ufa? Let's say the team does not offer him the extension, do not get turner,who knows if they do the Nurk trade and finish the year with 38 wins and out of the playoffs, you do not think cj thinks about being free and going to NY where his girlfriend is?

I mean the blazers did not value him enough to extend him, the team is meh and he could be the lead guard in the media capital of the world.

There is always risk, and extending cj was as close to a risk free decision as there was in 2016. Heck, the very premise of your suggestion that there would be less competition in 2017 was unknown based on cap projections. It is easy to see things in hindsight, but the turner signing made sense.

The Crabbe match and myle, these were questionable
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The Turner signing was roundly panned as deplorable from the get go, and many in here took issue with CJ's extension at the time as well. These are not solely hindsight concerns--these were fully foreseeable.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The Turner signing was roundly panned as deplorable from the get go, and many in here took issue with CJ's extension at the time as well. These are not solely hindsight concerns--these were fully foreseeable.
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Agreed.
Good teams can look into the future and see what is likely to happen and position themselves to take advantage of it.
Many of the fans here can do that, but the same can't be said for NO....
 
tester551 said:
Agreed.
Good teams can look into the future and see what is likely to happen and position themselves to take advantage of it.
Many of the fans here can do that, but the same can't be said for NO....
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If this is the case, I wonder why many of the armchair GM's on this forum haven't took NO's job yet.
 
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