Someone please remind me why LFrank is a good coach?

[furnace]

Because honestly, I just don't see it anymore.

What adjustments did he make in this game?

I saw him take Boone out just as he was playing great defense and disrupting the Bobcats offense, block shots, creating deflections, etc. Dooling seemed to play playing well, and Simmons was hitting 3's. Doesn't Frank have some set plays where he can use Dooling or Harris to penetrate and kick out to Simmons and Hayes?

 

[Ruthless Outlaw]

yeah i didn't understand why boon was taking out either

 

[yinets1860]

he need help team win more games or he was not a good coach

 

[Himuki]

he takes out YI when he's playing good and that does not make I happy

 

[Himuki]

he need help team win more games or he was not a good coach

ya he help team need win games to be good coach help (*.*);;

 

[nets1]

maybe because Larry Brown put all his starters in when it got close. pay attention please.

 

[yinets1860]

he takes out YI when he's playing good and that does not make I happy

first welcome，Yi always Undulations

 

[Himuki]

first welcome，Yi always Undulations

very serious thought very true, friend.

 

[Universe]

He's better than what's out there and most of them coaching in the NBA.

 

[User01]

because we've already won 14 games this year.

 

[Balla 15]

The biggest problem with Frank is that he OVER coaches. Just as your example furnance, when a player is playing good he takes him out just because he wants to bring in the starter. He needs to just stick with what is working. I remember a game last year where Sean Williams was killing it, disrupting the Hornets offense and frustrating Chris Paul to no end. The Nets ended up coming back in that game and then in the final minutes of the fourth he took out Sean and the Nets lost, sound familiar? He over coaches and over thinks simple things too much sometimes.

 

[ly_yng]

Because honestly, I just don't see it anymore.

What adjustments did he make in this game?

I saw him take Boone out just as he was playing great defense and disrupting the Bobcats offense, block shots, creating deflections, etc. Dooling seemed to play playing well, and Simmons was hitting 3's. Doesn't Frank have some set plays where he can use Dooling or Harris to penetrate and kick out to Simmons and Hayes?

Devin Haris and Vince Carter combined:

33 points on 12-36 (33%), 7-9 FT, 2-6 3PT (33%), 7 REB, 6 AST in 75 combined minutes.

Production like that from our two stars just isn't going to get it done. And you're blaming the coach?!

 

[ly_yng]

he takes out YI when he's playing good and that does not make I happy

Himuki, are you Japanese or Chinese? Cause you seem to be Japanese - why are you such a big Yi fan?

 

[marla07860]

Devin Haris and Vince Carter combined:

33 points on 12-36 (33%), 7-9 FT, 2-6 3PT (33%), 7 REB, 6 AST in 75 combined minutes.

Production like that from our two stars just isn't going to get it done. And you're blaming the coach?!

thank you for saying this, last night shouldn't have been blamed on Frank

 

[soul driver]

it wasn't the coaching last night. it was the player's lack of exeuction down the stretch, plain and simple. airballs, missing 2nd chance points, etc.

 

[Netted]

I didn't watch the game, but I read that Simmons missed his last 5 shot attempts. That doesn't sound like someone that was hitting their shots. Sounded like a smart substitution.

 

[CalamityX04]

There was definitely poor execution down the stretch, lots of missed shots.... i stop watching it with 5 mins left in the 4th. Devin needs to sit down with any pg in the league retired or active and understand when someone is open under the basket, dish it to him!!! several times, mostly on the pick n roll, Lopez was WIDE open under the rim but Devin forces the shot instead that gets me so frustrated, luckily Devin makes the most of them but he does have his misses therefore we missed guaranteed points...

We lost again! again coming out the 2nd half FLAT.... when is it on coaching??? i mean again at what point is Frank's job in question? this guy has an infinite leash or something... he "may" be a good Xs and Os guy and perhaps will be great at commentating at games since he luvs to TALK about his team and their opponents weakness and strengths with numbers blah blah blah... geesh, he has yet to improve at all, honestly we should've lost that pacers game, we got lucky cuz of Devin hittin a buzzer beater, his lack of adjustments and his damn ranting on the sideline is getting annoying. this IS NOT FOOTBALL, i'm hearing like 5 different plays being called out and him yelling at everyone to get into positions, let the guys just F-ing play....

oh yes someone should send Frank the tape between the Wolves and Knicks from last night, maybe he'll learn or realize he can beat small ball by playing to their strengths and pound them inside.... just an FYI for him....

 

[SportsTicker]

1. Because the Nets have already won 14 games...integrating eight new players and seven players under the age of 25 into a team that has beaten the Suns, Hawks, Jazz, Raptors, Sixers, Pacers on the road. Most pundits had the Nets winning between 19 and 34 games.

2. Because he has developed Brook Lopez into a first rate NBA center. (Previous criticisms that he didn't "develop" great young players like Brandon Armstrong, Tamar Slay, Zoran Planinic, Antoine Wright, Mile Ilic, Marcus Williams and Hassan Adams are now invalid.)

3. Because he set up an offense to take advantage of Devin Harris' speed that has turned Harris from a 24 year old in Avery Johnson's dog house to a 25 year old in the first rank of the NBA's elite (I would be interested in any other examples of such a transformation.)

No one thought this team would be any good. In spite of last night's loss (which led me to throw my scorecard and leave the game early), they have a good chance of making the playoffs. He ain't perfect. He also isn't a finished product.

 

[rory]

No good coach would leave Boone in at the end of a close game, no matter how good he was playing on defense. Hack-A-Boone would be employed. He's too much of a liability on offense.

 

[CalamityX04]

1. Yet we lost to the likes of the knicks by playing small ball, Pacers, blown out by the Wiz, MIAMI 2x when we had leads entering the final minutes, blew 22 pt cushion to the same Jazz we beat on the road, Chicago after leading nearly throughout the game... i would also say Golden State too however they can always shoot themselves back in but i think Frank went small ball again with them anyway.... those were games we should have won. i'm not sayin every loss should have been a win but this ones i listed we were winning most of them only to get screwed by Frank's decision with the lineup changes

2. THANK GOD he is developing Lopez, we finally get true legit 7 footer (whose not flat on his feet either) i can only think what if Boone never got hurt... oh yea greatly appreciate Frank pulling out Lopez in games against weak Cs in the final minutes, he may be a rookie but he's not playin like one

3. the transformation is unique, the closet i think of coming close may be duhon? he's havin a gr8 year. however what about the other 4 players on the court, he may elevated Devin's game but what about the 3 , 4 n 5 spots? other than VC, we need to spread the D by getting those guys into the game. Defensively though by playin zone, he is negating Devin's speed and quickness and lately he's walking up the court instead of pushing it where i think we all can agree that he's at his best by pushing up the ball

I just hate seeing the potential being wasted, now i do agree its still on the players to perform but the schemes/designs/lineups are on the Coach and it's frustrating to see that Frank doesn't realize what's working and what's hurting us... i swear i think Fratello wants to jump out and coach lol

 

[nets1]

I didn't watch the game, but I read that Simmons missed his last 5 shot attempts. That doesn't sound like someone that was hitting their shots. Sounded like a smart substitution.

If you did see the game you would know he was partly responsible for the major run that brought the game to 83 to 81 late in the 4th. He had steals , 3's and an all around good game. He brought alot of energy to the game. Not franks fault.

 

[Himuki]

Himuki, are you Japanese or Chinese? Cause you seem to be Japanese - why are you such a big Yi fan?

yes I am japanese! tee hee I like YI cuz he is close to representing asian people! tee hee i also like YAO and SUN and VC and TMAC and DUNKERS! (^*()

 

[Boomdog]

1. Because the Nets have already won 14 games...integrating eight new players and seven players under the age of 25 into a team that has beaten the Suns, Hawks, Jazz, Raptors, Sixers, Pacers on the road. Most pundits had the Nets winning between 19 and 34 games.

2. Because he has developed Brook Lopez into a first rate NBA center. (Previous criticisms that he didn't "develop" great young players like Brandon Armstrong, Tamar Slay, Zoran Planinic, Antoine Wright, Mile Ilic, Marcus Williams and Hassan Adams are now invalid.)

3. Because he set up an offense to take advantage of Devin Harris' speed that has turned Harris from a 24 year old in Avery Johnson's dog house to a 25 year old in the first rank of the NBA's elite (I would be interested in any other examples of such a transformation.)

No one thought this team would be any good. In spite of last night's loss (which led me to throw my scorecard and leave the game early), they have a good chance of making the playoffs. He ain't perfect. He also isn't a finished product.

/signed....i dont agree with everything Frank does, but maybe you guys should start blaming the players. He cant make Yi hit his shots or grow a pair and actually stick with his guy on Def. He cant make Simmons hit open shots from the sideline. He cant make Anderson hit shots. He has to make the best of what he can with a sub-par roster, and i actually believe he is.

He is using a system which caters to our best players and it works decently well. Next season it may actually be different depending on FA's and Brooks development. To those saying we arent using players correct, Maybe those players should actually hit the shots they get before you revamp a system "because we arent using them right".

 

[Netsfan318]

He's better than what's out there and most of them coaching in the NBA.

I'd beg to differ.

 

[Balla 15]

No good coach would leave Boone in at the end of a close game, no matter how good he was playing on defense. Hack-A-Boone would be employed. He's too much of a liability on offense.

You can't use that in the last two minutes of a game and it's not like the Nets run their offense through Boone so he likely wouldn't touch the ball much anyways.

 

[unstop]

1. Because the Nets have already won 14 games...integrating eight new players and seven players under the age of 25 into a team that has beaten the Suns, Hawks, Jazz, Raptors, Sixers, Pacers on the road. Most pundits had the Nets winning between 19 and 34 games.

2. Because he has developed Brook Lopez into a first rate NBA center. (Previous criticisms that he didn't "develop" great young players like Brandon Armstrong, Tamar Slay, Zoran Planinic, Antoine Wright, Mile Ilic, Marcus Williams and Hassan Adams are now invalid.)

3. Because he set up an offense to take advantage of Devin Harris' speed that has turned Harris from a 24 year old in Avery Johnson's dog house to a 25 year old in the first rank of the NBA's elite (I would be interested in any other examples of such a transformation.)

No one thought this team would be any good. In spite of last night's loss (which led me to throw my scorecard and leave the game early), they have a good chance of making the playoffs. He ain't perfect. He also isn't a finished product.

I agree completely with all of this, except #2. I don't think being 1 for 84 in developing young players makes anything "invalid." Nor do I think he did as much to develop Brook as Josh Boone did in getting injured and allowing Brook (who did 90% of his "developing" as a starter) to get the opportunity to start in the first place. Shit, Kristic would still be on the bench to this day if 4 guys who aren't even in the league anymore didn't get injured first.

And, let's also not ignore the fact that Brook came into this league already surprisingly developed.

Long story short, Frank has a fuck-long ways to go before any sane person can use the words "can," "develop" and "young players" in the same sentence.

But the rest, yeah, I agree 100%. Frank is far from perfect, but I'm liking him more this season than ever before.

Thorn is doing a fantastic job developing young coaches.

 

[Malorkayel]

Devin sucked last night, he kept begging for fouls. He was playing selfish, he got blocked big time because everyone knew he wasn't going to pass and wouldn't get up to play D.

Hassell getting too many minutes as starter. That's frank's ego playing with rotations, trying to outsmart everyone. Frank was sitting players after they were finally meshing and doing well. Brown made the Cats cut/assist and play hard D. The Cats got so many offensive 3 seconds because they wait and wait for the perfect pass inside.

I thought Yi's post up were good, he didn't hit those shots, but you can see he was getting good shots and if was making them his scoring would have exploded. Pretty much I was annoyed that Nets didn't get calls at home, and that makes Devin selfish and go nuts. I don't want to see a Starbury development in NJ.

Also, the Nets small ball is terrible, we have Anderson, Yi, Swat, Swift, Boone. Too many bigs on the roster and you're sitting all of them in stretches of games.

You all realize that Dribble Drive is a highschool offense right? We live and die by the sword, but right now I tell you the key to the Nets success is Yi, Anderson and Lopez to balance the offense and still match up defensively.

Yi and Anderson has the shittiest job on the team. They're told to play as an additional SF on offense and guard the PF. Spread out the offense to the 3pt line and grab offensive rebounds. How many bigs in the league has the skills to do this?

 

[SportsTicker]

I agree completely with all of this, except #2. I don't think being 1 for 84 in developing young players makes anything "invalid." Nor do I think he did as much to develop Brook as Josh Boone did in getting injured and allowing Brook (who did 90% of his "developing" as a starter) to get the opportunity to start in the first place. Shit, Kristic would still be on the bench to this day if 4 guys who aren't even in the league anymore didn't get injured first.

And, let's also not ignore the fact that Brook came into this league already surprisingly developed.

Long story short, Frank has a fuck-long ways to go before any sane person can use the words "can," "develop" and "young players" in the same sentence.

But the rest, yeah, I agree 100%. Frank is far from perfect, but I'm liking him more this season than ever before.

Thorn is doing a fantastic job developing young coaches.

Come on. Name the ONE young player who Frank didn't develop who has gone on to greater glory. Perhaps I should have added Jerome Moiso, Billy Thomas, Kyle Davis, Kaniel Dickens, Christian Drejer or any other summer league player Frank destroyed to my list. Marcus Williams wants a buyout because he has played only 49 minutes and scored 9 points. After starting a few games, Wright is nailed to the Mavs' bench. Hassan Adams plays only in garbage time in Toronto.

The Nets' front office, particularly Stefanski, overhyped the Nets' picks. Sean Williams over Marco Belinelli looks pretty dumb right now, but Stefanski said SWat had the potential to turn into another KMart! He said Wright reminded him of Allan Houston! Ilic was not a project and in fact was more athletic that Krstic!

Everyone of those guys had a decent chance (other than possibly Zoran, whose potential the Nets admit they blew). Swat started 29 games last season, finished eighth in minutes among rookies taken in the 2007 draft.

Meanwhile, Devin Harris as noted went from Avery Johnson's doghouse to quite possibly the All-Star game because Frank recognized his talent and redrew his offense.

 

[ly_yng]

No one thought this team would be any good. In spite of last night's loss (which led me to throw my scorecard and leave the game early), they have a good chance of making the playoffs. He ain't perfect. He also isn't a finished product.

I didn't even know you could keep a scorecard for basketball. I've only seen one for baseball.

Do you do it Dean Oliver style, or is it more like a box score?

 

[ly_yng]

Come on. Name the ONE young player who Frank didn't develop who has gone on to greater glory. Perhaps I should have added Jerome Moiso, Billy Thomas, Kyle Davis, Kaniel Dickens, Christian Drejer or any other summer league player Frank destroyed to my list. Marcus Williams wants a buyout because he has played only 49 minutes and scored 9 points. After starting a few games, Wright is nailed to the Mavs' bench. Hassan Adams plays only in garbage time in Toronto.

It's interesting to put this record up against Frank's most obvious comparison, Byron Scott, who managed to drive Stephen Jackson out of New Jersey and into a role as a key playoff contributor for the Spurs and Warriors.