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But we've already established, by your own admission, that you aren't objective. So why should I listen to you about anything?

Sorry, but you kind of defeated yourself there.

You pretty much just got owned. You are looking like someone who can't accept that reality by continuing this convo.
 
so how great could this man be, having made a mistake like that?

Yes, you have earned your stripes as a full fledged progressive. Calling the founding of this nation a mistake.
I did not expect you to step forward and declare it so quickly.
Carry on.
 
Where have I said that I'm delusional? All I said was the Left uses emotion and cherry-picked assumptions based on what they believe Trump means, rather than what he actually says, to form their supposed "objectivity".

When you said that you were objective. And sure, if you make up what other people on the forum believe, it sure helps your argument! Those must be the alternative facts I've been hearing so much about lately, a term coined by an aide to that liberal President Trump.
 
Yes, you have earned your stripes as a full fledged progressive. Calling the founding of this nation a mistake.
I did not expect you to step forward and declare it so quickly.
Carry on.

You're a little confused. What I termed a mistake was Jefferson writing that we are endowed rights by our parents--even you don't believe that!
 
When you said that you were objective. And sure, if you make up what other people on the forum believe, it sure helps your argument! Those must be the alternative facts I've been hearing so much about lately, a term coined by an aide to that liberal President Trump.

I'm not making anything up. This is what they ACTUALLY believe, based on what they have openly said.

Christ, it's right here on this forum. If you were OBJECTIVE, you'd see that.
 
I'm not making anything up. This is what they ACTUALLY believe, based on what they have openly said.

Christ, it's right here on this forum. If you were OBJECTIVE, you'd see that.

"If you were OBJECTIVE, you'd see that I was RIGHT, godammit. Because I only speak GOD'S TRUTH, my perceptions are in no way shaped by my beliefs and political biases!"
 
Seems like you may have been studying, biology maybe. Anyway you are spot on! But we were discussing rights, and you know I am sure, that neither member of the pair of progenitors gave the child any rights. I am sure you know this. There is a clue though, of where to look, do you know where that might be? Perhaps you have read it.

Oh, I know what you are talking about. The Oregon Driver Manual. Lays out very clearly when you have the right of way.

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Well, that's good, then. You are my brother in the Lord's eyes, after all.

I can go along with this thought. But to be honest, I am dubious that he has the time to waste on you or I. Creating us, may have been his last great work. Perhaps the judgement of that work is premature although inspiring some to do great things as did Jefferson, prompts an early proffer.
 
I can go along with this thought. But to be honest, I am dubious that he has the time to waste on you or I. Creating us, may have been his last great work. Perhaps the judgement of that work is premature

Humans are overrated, man.
 
Wow! That is amazing. Why not raise the taxes a bit more?

Because like everything else, there is a fine line between just right, too little or too much.

If you have no water, you will die of thirst.

If you have too much water, you will drown.

You need the right amount to support life.

Believe it or not, it seems that California seems to have a handle on the right amount for improving it's economy.
 
Because like everything else, there is a fine line between just right, too little or too much.

If you have no water, you will die of thirst.

If you have too much water, you will drown.

You need the right amount to support life.

Believe it or not, it seems that California seems to have a handle on the right amount for improving it's economy.

I am very happy to hear you have what you like. It is most important to happiness.
 
Because like everything else, there is a fine line between just right, too little or too much.

If you have no water, you will die of thirst.

If you have too much water, you will drown.

You need the right amount to support life.

Believe it or not, it seems that California seems to have a handle on the right amount for improving it's economy.
Balance...these waterproof portable cubicles they spend most of their time in
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Balance...these waterproof portable cubicles they spend most of their time in
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People who laugh at Oregonians and snow should see Californians when it rains. Pure comedy gold. They can barely drive in it. And they certainly can't be out in it. Give me a little rain down there, that's when I'll go out and about because everything is empty.
 
People who laugh at Oregonians and snow should see Californians when it rains. Pure comedy gold. They can barely drive in it. And they certainly can't be out in it. Give me a little rain down there, that's when I'll go out and about because everything is empty.

Not really sure what you're talking about, to be honest. Traffic is just as bad when its wet. Nobody lacks confidence driving in rain here. In fact, that's kind of a problem--people should slow down and be more cautious, due to the slick road conditions, but not many people do.
 
Not really sure what you're talking about, to be honest. Traffic is just as bad when its wet. Nobody lacks confidence driving in rain here. In fact, that's kind of a problem--people should slow down and be more cautious, due to the slick road conditions, but not many people do.

I'm in California 3-4 times a year to see it. Even our family/friends living down there admit as much. I've never heard so many "we can't go out, it's raining" in my life. I've never seen Disney more dead than during a light drizzle. I asked an employee why it was so light - the "rain" (it was between a mist and drizzle) kept people away. And the few people there were in ponchos.
 
Yeah, people here can't drive in the rain. Plus the roads are not built for rain, lots of hydroplaning.
 
I'm in California 3-4 times a year to see it. Even our family/friends living down there admit as much. I've never heard so many "we can't go out, it's raining" in my life. I've never seen Disney more dead than during a light drizzle. I asked an employee why it was so light - the "rain" (it was between a mist and drizzle) kept people away. And the few people there were in ponchos.

Perhaps it keeps tourists away from tourist destinations. I've lived in the Bay Area pretty much all my life (with occasional time spent in San Diego and Seattle) and I've never experienced lack of crowds on rainy days or rainy nights. Traffic is just as jammed as ever. I wish I experienced an "emptying out" during rain, but I definitely don't.
 


Hmm, if that's actually representative, it sounds like an LA thing, not a California thing. As I said, the Bay Area definitely doesn't get less crowded in public when it rains--talking about traffic, bars, restaurants, etc.
 
Hmm, if that's actually representative, it sounds like an LA thing, not a California thing. As I said, the Bay Area definitely doesn't get less crowded in public when it rains--talking about traffic, bars, restaurants, etc.

well the bay area has shitty weather anyway, so they're used it it. We're used to months of sunshine in a row, rain just makes us shook.
 
well the bay area has shitty weather anyway, so they're used it it. We're used to months of sunshine in a row, rain just makes us shook.

It actually doesn't rain much in the Bay Area. This winter was unusually wet, which was helpful for keeping the state out of drought. The Bay Area gets sun pretty much nonstop from middle of March through the middle of September. The fall and winter alternates cloudy/windy with sunny.
 
It actually doesn't rain much in the Bay Area. This winter was unusually wet, which was helpful for keeping the state out of drought. The Bay Area gets sun pretty much nonstop from middle of March through the middle of September. The fall and winter alternates cloudy/windy with sunny.
you've apparently lived there long enough to identify fog as sunlight..at least in the city..not talking the east bay unless global warming has changed things since the 70s
 

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