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yankeesince59

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...Joe, will you please sit this guy for a week...even Art says Ichiro is a better choice.
 
...like the guys in the booth said, he's pulling off everything...that left shoulder is flying wide open.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...like the guys in the booth said, he's pulling off everything...that left shoulder is flying wide open.
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It's so blatant too. It's not like it's a slight thing. Add in the fact that he over swings at everything.
 
Six strikeouts the last two nights. He can't hit anything right now.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Joe, will you please sit this guy for a week...even Art says Ichiro is a better choice.
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I'd agree with that anyday, anytime....

add to all this the insulting MLB-TV commercial yesterday: (Quote)-
"Tomorrow on MLB TV, watch Alfonso Soriano and the Yankees versus the Oakland A's" ..... say what the F....? Did the gaffer write the commercial, while everyone else went to lunch....?

Or as Vic said, one would of thought a commercial for the Yanx Broadcast, a given, to hear, "watch Derek Jeter and the Yanx".....where's the respect for The Captain, given his farewell season. Regardless of performance, IMHO, Derek deserves the same Farewell send off, from the media and fans, we all saw in Ripken's final year...

Hell, even last year with Mo'...oh well, screw MLB-TV....and Sorry-ano too...!
 
I'm surprised he can even retain a hold on the bat the way he's swinging now.
 
totus44 said:
I'm surprised he can even retain a hold on the bat the way he's swinging now.
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I heard from Pineda's clubhouse chat, Alfonso uses super glue on his hands, so why can't Pineda use pine tar on his neck.... :lol:
 
Now even more reason to sign Morales. Aside from backing up Teixiera we NEED a new DH.
 
...Morales will probably sign with someone Friday.

...and IMO, the Yanx don't need a DH per se ...they need the current DHs to pull their weight.
 
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Art51USAF said:
Where is our batting coach?? Under the dugout fast asleep.
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I thought I saw him sleeping in the bullpen, writing his sequel to "Cage Rat"....

This one titled: "Self Pro-Claimed Hitting Guru" - insult courtesy of McClendon...!
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I started to respond that Ichiro was appointed hitting coach...but I let it go.
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If he does ever retire, I would think Ichiro could easily become a great hitting coach.

Or like Carew did, open his own Hitting Academy with private lessons to any kid, and the public, who wanted to spend but $50 for a 1 on 1 hour long lesson, once a week for 8 weeks in a row. (That was prior to his Daughter's death, prior to becoming the Halos Hitting Coach, and then Brewers).

Besides, each kid definitely showing a big improvement in their hitting abilities, each kid got a nice 8X10 picture of themselves with Rod, autographed too, a Certificate of Completion, also signed by Carew, no doubt one of the greatest pure hitters of our era. (both Carew and Ichiro, tho' I preferred watching Carew, Suzuki has been no slouch either, and both had great careers).
 
Maybe its just me but for the most part I find that hitting coaches are generally guys you never really heard of (yes there are exceptions) but mostly its like that old adage, "Those that can do, those that can't teach" which makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I mean how do you take advice from a guy who either never played at the major league level or was a career 230 hitter without laughing under your breath? This I also find true with pitching coaches. " Really you had a career mark of 50-100 & you want to give me advice on how to pitch?" It just boggles the mind.
 
Hitting coaches study the mechanics of a swing and things of that nature. They study hours and hours of video and compare what a guy is doing when he's hitting well and what changes are seen when he's in a slump. The career batting average has nothing to do with it. Just because a guy hits .240 in the majors doesn't mean he knows nothing about hitting. What do you think the guy did in high school, college and the minors? A career .330 is not going to be able to teach you how to hit just like him. Ichiro for example has one of the oddest approaches and swings the game has ever seen. I wouldn't see him as being a good hitting coach as far as the mechanics of a swing goes. He does everything you were taught not to do while growing up.
 
Messiah717 said:
Hitting coaches study the mechanics of a swing and things of that nature. They study hours and hours of video and compare what a guy is doing when he's hitting well and what changes are seen when he's in a slump. The career batting average has nothing to do with it. Just because a guy hits .240 in the majors doesn't mean he knows nothing about hitting. What do you think the guy did in high school, college and the minors? A career .330 is not going to be able to teach you how to hit just like him. Ichiro for example has one of the oddest approaches and swings the game has ever seen. I wouldn't see him as being a good hitting coach as far as the mechanics of a swing goes. He does everything you were taught not to do while growing up.
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Vic I agree about Ichiro being a bad example as a coach but my point is this, if what you say is true of what a hitting coaches job is, watching hours of video to find floors in a players swing or approach then why couldn't he do it for himself & be a better hitter.

Look I know I often put a lot of blame on various coaches (pitching & hitting) and maybe I'm looking at this with blinders on but here's the thing, If I'm in a slump & I have Tony Gwynn & Kevin Long standing in front of me, guess which one I'm going to ask for help? The career 300 hitter or the guy who couldn't even practiced what he preached to make himself better?
 
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...Ichiro is a contact hitter, always has been...doesn't strike out much.

...and during batting practice before the game can put on a helluva HR display.
 
If great students of swing mechanics could teach, Tony Gwynn and San Diego State would be pumping out triple crown threats the likes of Mike Trout. Safely, Tony's team has only produced a MLB pitcher of note.
 
totus44 said:
If great students of swing mechanics could teach, Tony Gwynn and San Diego State would be pumping out triple crown threats the likes of Mike Trout. Safely, Tony's team has only produced a MLB pitcher of note.
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The talent has to be there for starters. Enough to get you either near or on a major league field. If the talent is not there to begin with no amount of Pete Roses or Tony Gwynns are going to help.
 
Rick2583 said:
The talent has to be there for starters. Enough to get you either near or on a major league field. If the talent is not there to begin with no amount of Pete Roses or Tony Gwynns are going to help.
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And kids with talent sign where? They sign where they think they can get playing time, experience, win and top flight coaching.
 
Here's a quote from Donnie BB, from his book: "Hitting is Simple-The ABC's of Hitting .300"

"I learned more about the mechanics of the swing from Lou Pinella than anyone else I ever worked with-he taught me how the swing works and how to make adjustments".

I read in a 1986 or 87 Sports Illustrated article (with Ted Williams, Boggs and Mattingly on the cover) where Ted sat down one afternoon with Boggs and Donnie over beers, to discuss the art of hitting. In that SI, Donnie mentioned back then, Pinella was about the only one who could show him what he was doing wrong, or what and how his mechanics were off, moreso than anyone could. Pinella would literally get in the batters box, to show Donnie such things, Lou led by example, not leaving work for the hitting coach, or even pitching coach...some say Lou was a micro manager, yet I don't see it, or didn't....!

The way it was all explained to me aeons ago, (by Ty Cobb and the Bambino) was:

Great players like Mantle, Mays, DiMaggio, et al. Don't always make the best coaches. They are the "Naturally talented ones", who don't have to think much how to play exceptionally well, beyond the norm. They are born with talent. Talent they cannot often explain to others. Whereas-those utility players, who spend entire careers on the bench, ie. LaRussa, Cox, Lasorda, Joe Maddon, (yes I said it), and (I despise mentioning Lasorda's name period!!!), Many utility players, or lesser players with lifetime minor league numbers or careers, who turned out to be very good to great coaches, (except Lasorda, pardon me, I'm biased against the dude). Those guys spend their lifetimes in MLB, watching intently and become the best students, teachers of the game. Even when a life of watching and learning never behooves the lack of their own natural talent. One can't always teach talent, one is not always born with talent. Some are, some aren't. While NOTHING is a given, even this rule aforementioned.

Yet, it does seem to work that way, with exceptions on both sides of the rule, or belief....

Does that make any sense to you Rick, or did I confuse you more. (I do have a way of doing such you know to well)....hope it helps, my friend...!!
 
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