Source: Blazers Identified As 'Wild Card' For Omer Asik

[Blazinaway]

LMAO! They didn't get what they wanted? No surprise! Asik's demands and bloated 3rd year killed any true effort to get something quality in return. OKC wouldn't mind trading Perkins for him I bet.

exactly, Morey for once has fukked this one up

 

[Blazinaway]

Good way to increase value

after the "value" HOU expected has crashed I guess a dead cat bounce is hoped for

 

[BBert]

Morey gave away TRob to get Howard, now he's going to have to give away (or underutilize) Asik, because he got Howard.

Good.

 

[magnifier661]

Morey gave away TRob to get Howard, now he's going to have to give away (or underutilize) Asik, because he got Howard.

Good.

What he really should have done was given us Asik when the Howard fiasco took place. We would have gladly given up more cap space to get him back then. Then they could have kept T. Rob; which would be better for them anyway.

We would have still had the opportunity to get Lopez too, if we traded a player with the Asik deal. Possibly Freeland

 

[Draco]

What he really should have done was given us Asik when the Howard fiasco took place. We would have gladly given up more cap space to get him back then. Then they could have kept T. Rob; which would be better for them anyway.

We would have still had the opportunity to get Lopez too, if we traded a player with the Asik deal. Possibly Freeland

We would've given up our draft pick that became CJ to get Asik. Yes Morey has totally botched this situation.

After Houston raped the Thunder in the Harden deal they have unrealistic expectations of what they are able to get back in a trade. Every day Asik is on that roster he is losing trade value, it was at the peak in the summer.

Its similar to people holding onto a house in 2008, they just can't accept the loss. The market is not going to go back to what it was in the summer. Houston hasn't been able to come to grips with that.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

"The Houston Rockets have abruptly ceased trade talks involving Omer Asik and now face the complicated task of trying to re-integrate the unhappy center into their frontcourt rotation, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Rockets moved away from the negotiating table Thursday when it became apparent they wouldn't find a trade that matches their valuation of Asik before their self-imposed Dec. 19 deadline to move him."

-Marc Stein/ESPN


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[Natebishop3]

They aren't getting anywhere near what they thought he was worth. Hilarious.

 

[magnifier661]

They aren't getting anywhere near what they thought he was worth. Hilarious.

This is good. Fuck Asik and Fuck the Rockets.... They dropped the ball and should have used Asik as the trade to free up cap space. They probably could have gotten a first rounder and back-up big that would fit their need. Instead they lost T. Rob (Not really too huge I guess) and probably won't get anything but scrubs for Asik.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

This is good. Fuck Asik and Fuck the Rockets.... They dropped the ball and should have used Asik as the trade to free up cap space. They probably could have gotten a first rounder and back-up big that would fit their need. Instead they lost T. Rob (Not really too huge I guess) and probably won't get anything but scrubs for Asik.

hahahahaaaahhaa They wait till the trade deadline now..odds are they get even less, because there will be more players on the market as teams fight to tank the hardest..

 

[magnifier661]

hahahahaaaahhaa They wait till the trade deadline now..odds are they get even less, because there will be more players on the market as teams fight to tank the hardest..

I would love to watch them have a free-fall before then. Howard would be crying to the media about how this organization isn't worthy of his "un-clutch" performance. Most likely campaigning to get McHale fired!

 

[magnifier661]

I could actually see them making a deal with the Lakers, using Lin, Asik and some bench player for Gasol and Blake

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I could actually see them making a deal with the Lakers, using Lin, Asik and some bench player for Gasol and Blake

oh...you know, that is a good trade for both teams..

 

[magnifier661]

oh...you know, that is a good trade for both teams..

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[Draco]

I could actually see them making a deal with the Lakers, using Lin, Asik and some bench player for Gasol and Blake

No chance, Gasol and Dwight hate each other.

 

[Draco]

Its kind of funny, heard Henry Abbott on an ESPN basketball podcast yesterday say the biggest need the Rockets had was a backup center. Terrance Jones and Montejunas have been solid at PF. He said they really just needed a guy like Asik to come in to give Dwight a break. Can Asik be the player they were hoping to acquire for Asik?

If Asik ends up eventually buying into the role that Houston team could be one of the best in the West.

 

[magnifier661]

Its kind of funny, heard Henry Abbott on an ESPN basketball podcast yesterday say the biggest need the Rockets had was a backup center. Terrance Jones and Montejunas have been solid at PF. He said they really just needed a guy like Asik to come in to give Dwight a break. Can Asik be the player they were hoping to acquire for Asik?

If Asik ends up eventually buying into the role that Houston team could be one of the best in the West.

I think the biggest issue with Asik is his contract will be up in two years. He wants that payday

 

[jlprk]

Wow, I just learned that Houston didn't trade Asik today, the deadline. Very surprising.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Wow, I just learned that Houston didn't trade Asik today, the deadline. Very surprising.

*self-imposed deadline.

Morey was shocked that he couldn't get young prospects and a 2014 first-rounder for a Przybilla tier center who is pouting.

 

[Natebishop3]

*self-imposed deadline.

Morey was shocked that he couldn't get young prospects and a 2014 first-rounder for a Przybilla tier center who is pouting.

Should have dealt him last summer. His value isn't going to get better.

 

[jlprk]

Morey was shocked that he couldn't get young prospects and a 2014 first-rounder for a Przybilla tier center who is pouting.

Asik would start for most teams. Przybilla got a lot of rebounds because he played next to Aldridge.

 

[blue9]

... Przybilla tier center ...

It's funny to me that Asik was once thought of as one of the best Cs in the league, and we would be head-over-heels giddy to get him. And now that we have a capable C he's "Przybilla tier".
I haven't seen him enough to have an opinion, but I suspect his ability leans (if only slightly) more towards the Hibbert end of the spectrum than the Przybilla end.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It's funny to me that Asik was once thought of as one of the best Cs in the league, and we would be head-over-heels giddy to get him. And now that we have a capable C he's "Przybilla tier".
I haven't seen him enough to have an opinion, but I suspect his ability leans (if only slightly) more towards the Hibbert end of the spectrum than the Przybilla end.

Compare the advanced stats on Asik's last season with Przybilla's '09 season. Pretty darn similar, actually. Asik shot more, Przybilla shot better. Otherwise, about the same.

 

[blue9]

Compare Asik's last season with Przybilla's '09 season. Pretty darn similar, actually. Asik shot more, Przybilla shot better. Otherwise, about the same.

Sorry, defensive Cs can't be measured by points and rebounds. Gotta see him in action to know whether he really knows how to control the paint.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Sorry, defensive Cs can't be measured by points and rebounds. Gotta see him in action to know whether he really knows how to control the paint.

You and I both know that Przybilla absolutely controlled the paint defensively.

Anywhere else that you want to claim divergence?

 

[magnifier661]

You and I both know that Przybilla absolutely controlled the paint defensively.

Anywhere else that you want to claim divergence?

lol!

 

[noknobs]

It's funny to me that Asik was once thought of as one of the best Cs in the league, and we would be head-over-heels giddy to get him. And now that we have a capable C he's "Przybilla tier".
I haven't seen him enough to have an opinion, but I suspect his ability leans (if only slightly) more towards the Hibbert end of the spectrum than the Przybilla end.

As much as I loved Joel, Asik is definitely a step above. I'm adverse to Asik because of the 15m he's owed next year and because it would mean giving up Lopez most likely. To me that defeats the main purpose of bringing another quality big in in the first place - depth. I'd love me some Spencer Hawes though. I think Leonard could really help Philly with their tanking this year.

 

[blue9]

You and I both know that Przybilla absolutely controlled the paint defensively.

Anywhere else that you want to claim divergence?

I don't know what you're trying to argue about. What divergence have I claimed? I've said that I don't have an opinion on Asik because I haven't seen him play...I just have a suspicion that people are selling him short.
But yes - Joel was good defensively. Better than Lopez. I think we'd be better if we had that sort of interior defense right now. With that said, I wonder how Joel would stack up against today's talent. When he played there was really only one C (unless I'm completely blanking) who had to be guarded. These days probably 1/3rd of teams have a capable C that demand attention.

 

[blue9]

I'm adverse to Asik because of the 15m he's owed next year and because it would mean giving up Lopez most likely. To me that defeats the main purpose of bringing another quality big in in the first place - depth.

I'm not adverse to Asik, but I'm not gung-ho on him either - mainly because I haven't seen him play enough.
Having a tandem of Asik/Lopez would be ideal, certainly. But if popular opinion of Asik, pre-Lopez, is to be believed then the idea of trading Lopez for Asik shouldn't be completely dismissed. Having someone who can protect the hoop and control the paint is exactly what this team needs. Before we got Lopez I got the impression that people thought Asik was just a step below Hibbert - and now he's practically bottom of the barrel!

 

[magnifier661]

I'm not adverse to Asik, but I'm not gung-ho on him either - mainly because I haven't seen him play enough.
Having a tandem of Asik/Lopez would be ideal, certainly. But if popular opinion of Asik, pre-Lopez, is to be believed then the idea of trading Lopez for Asik shouldn't be completely dismissed. Having someone who can protect the hoop and control the paint is exactly what this team needs. Before we got Lopez I got the impression that people thought Asik was just a step below Hibbert - and now he's practically bottom of the barrel!

The bottom of the barrel statement is because of attitude, just as any other talent that has attitude. Why do you suppose no one is giving Houston what they want? He's got the talent and capability. It's because he didn't handle himself well and has an albatross contract to boot!

 

[Denny Crane]

Lopez and Freeland, combined for 48 minutes, get you Asik's production last year in 30.