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Has anyone see this woman lately?

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"Must never make fun of Obama. Must never make fun of Obama. Must never make fun of Obama." Repeat mantra as needed.

Even as a liberal, I am ok with making fun of Obama when it makes sense. That is part of comedy. I like comedy. However, this story has nothing at all to do with him. Nothing. Therefore, there is no joke. I liked the article by the way. Interesting, good to know, and kind of fucked up. Just has nothing to do with Obama.
 
I'm not sure how politics got involved, but without bring them into this, I am completely okay with the company using horse meat.

When you buy a $1 cheeseburger, you should more or less assume that the "quality" is suspect.

With that said, I don't know how many of you hunt or have had the chance to skin and prepare a catch, but meats are meats. Different animals have different tastes, but the labels we put on one versus the other are completely cultural and subjective. If you break down where any of our meats come from, the average person would find it disgusting, but so long as the consumer doesn't think about its source, they'll enjoy every last bite of it.

So long as the food does not physically hurt anyone, I'm okay with it being offered up as a fast-food "burger." In fact, it sounds like they're wasting less of the animal in this process.
 
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During the worst of the recession, the big movers on the stock market were YUM brands and MacDonalds. That's because the food their is cheap enough for people living on unemployment to afford.

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It's four years later. About 10M people could not find jobs and gave up looking altogether.

Household median income is down almost $2500 since Obama took office.

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Obama fought hard for a tax hike on the rich for his signature achievement of his second term, so far. It came at the expense of a tax hike on the middle class as the witholding tax cut was allowed to expire.

http://twitchy.com/2013/01/04/hope-...hecks-of-2013-stunned-lib-asks-what-happened/

Those obstructionist republicans are preventing Obama from doing anything about it? Utter bullshit. The man got a $800B emergency stimulus package passed, spent another $350B of TARP money approved in the last 3 months of the Bush 2nd term, a permanent $600B hike in the federal budget in a way that doesn't require congress to do its job (pass a budget every year) thus bypassing any possible Republican obstruction, added over $6T to the national debt in 4 years, and the Fed printed another $3T (and $85B a month from now on) that doesn't show up in the debt figures but is spent as if borrowed.

Trillions of dollars spent so we can have underwater mortgages, extended unemployment instead of jobs, and even bigger banks (they used govt. money to buy other banks) too big to fail. Oh yeah, the people get food stamps!

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The stock market is at 14000, though, which is good for... who exactly?

So yeah, I think it's plenty fair to compare this BK horse meat story with Soylent Green. The society depicted in Soylent Green is exactly where we seem to be headed.

Something for you to think about. That $800B. They could have written 3.2 million people a check for $50,000 a year (pretty close to median income!) for 5 years with that money. That's wage equivalent of over $20/hr. Or at $10/hr (more than minimum wage), they could have written 6.4 million people checks for $25,000 a year for 5 years.

People making $50K pay taxes and make their mortgage payments on time. What a contrast to the alternative we've been dealt.

All these things I presented are pressures on people to eat at BK. It's what they can afford.

"Let them eat horse meat!"
 

Paul Krugman is an economist with a terrible track record of predicting economic outcomes and he writes nothing but lies and misleading articles for the NY Times.

England implemented a big sales tax hike. It's not austerity that is their issue directly.

Ireland?

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/138490/stephen-kinsella/how-ireland-got-its-groove-back

At long last, Ireland is beginning to move beyond putting on the poor mouth. The country's prime minister, Enda Kenny, recently graced the cover of Time, accompanied by the headline "The Celtic Comeback," and the Financial Times called Ireland's finance minister one of the best in Europe. The nation's largest banks can borrow again on the open market. The interest rates on Ireland's sovereign bonds -- seen as key indicators of the probability of default -- are rapidly falling. Rating agencies such as Moody's and Fitch have upgraded their outlooks on the country and some of its banks.

The turnaround seemed nearly complete last summer, when the government held two successful sovereign bond auctions and planned many more for the next year. By late 2013 or early 2014, Ireland should no longer need the assistance it has received from the EU and the IMF. The economy is still growing slowly in terms of GDP, but it is far from collapsing. Exports have driven most of this growth, thanks to unit labor costs that have fallen faster than those of any other country in Europe. Irish banks are deleveraging -- dumping bad loans, basically -- in order to shrink their balance sheets down to a more manageable size. Ireland is still a haven for multinational corporations searching for low taxes and a flexible, young, skilled labor force. Once the threat of an outright default passed and property prices began to bottom out, international investors began buying up properties there.

Recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth.

US GDP is about $16T. The govt. borrows $1T of that $16T from China. Minus the $1T borrowed, GDP is really $15T. Without the massive govt. borrowing, GDP growth would have been hugely negative. The borrowing makes it look like GDP grew by 1/16th when it really didn't. When Obama's recovery looks like 2% GDP growth, it's really 2% - 6% = -4% growth (NEGATIVE).

This negative growth is what needs to be addressed, not massive borrowing to mask it.

Sure, austerity means some pain. But the pain is going to happen no matter what. Better to minimize the impact, get it over with, and move on from there than to extend the impact for decades, bury us in debt, and assure far worse pain when the terms on the govt. credit card aren't so favorable. WHEN, not IF.
 

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