Speaker John A. Boehner will resign from Congress and give up his House seat at the end of October

[3RA1N1AC]

Yes marazul, I too only want to kill poor babies. They kinda have it coming

 

[BrianFromWA]

If there was really that much of a mandate, Obama would have lost reelection in a landslide.

When the balance of power in congress changes again, will you conclude that the American people disagree with everything that you and the republicans stand for?

barfo

No. However, if a Republican congress and President reinstituted the draft, enacted Prohibition and repealed Roe v. Wade, and then most of them were voted out of office, I wouldn't say that you can't look at it as cause-and-effect.

 

[barfo]

I'll rephrase, since I don't think I said it the right way. What is stopping you, dviss, from (hypothetically) writing the President and saying something to the effect of "Sir, I'm a big fan, but really, just sign the budget that gives PP's money to other health clinics and let's move on"?

Presumably the same thing that is stopping you from writing your congressperson and saying ""Sir, I'm a big fan, but really, just pass a budget that gives PP money and let's move on".

barfo

 

[dviss1]

So you're doubling down against reason, even in the face of being shown that you weren't correct in your assessment that defunding PP will definitely lead to more unwanted pregnancies among the poor? I think we're done here then, right?

It's hard to debate against so much bullshit in this post. You've never proved me to be incorrect. You just keep sharing your opinion.

You've shown that you're not rational about PP and abortion, so it doesn't really matter to me. And if you don't see the difference between protection and aggression, I can't help you. To give you more fuel, I'm for expanding the death penalty.

Again more of your opinion. And if you think that going into Iraq was protection then I have some more swampland to sell you. You are for expanding the death penalty but you are against abortion..... You pro lifers kill me pun intended.

 

[magnifier661]

Did you read Brian's post above? Click on the link. Using fetal tissue for research is lawful. You don't know what you're talking about.

CLEARLY you aren't understanding what I said.... Selling baby parts for "PROFIT". That is 100% against the law

 

[magnifier661]

I guess PP is too big to fail?

EXACTLY!!!! DC Establishment has completely failed america. It doesn't matter what party you sit on. When you go to DC, it becomes one major party. It's us against them.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm pro-life, pro-gun, pro-death penalty and pro-strong military.

 

[dviss1]

CLEARLY you aren't understanding what I said.... Selling baby parts for "PROFIT". That is 100% against the law

I know exactly what you said. The problem is even in those videos that hasn't been proven. Yet the Republicans want to defund Planned Parenthood based upon the videos that don't even prove what they're talking about. I take it you've seen the videos and have swallowed their rhetoric.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

You forgot "pro-traditional marriage"

 

[dviss1]

I'm pro-life, pro-gun, pro-death penalty and pro-strong military.

My guess is you're probably anti healthcare for all as well? This makes you pro birth. You are not pro life. The term pro life was stolen from the anti capital punishment movement. Know your history. You simply cannot be pro-life if you are pro war, Pro death penalty, and pro gun.

 

[magnifier661]

I know exactly what you said. The problem is even in those videos that hasn't been proven. Yet the Republicans want to defund Planned Parenthood based upon the videos that don't even prove what they're talking about. I take it you've seen the videos and have swallowed their rhetoric.

No, the video tapes of what Carly stupidly said was false. The "unedited" tapes have been given, which cannot be refuted. There were heads of PP that discussed how they sell the tissue for profit. There is nothing that can deny that. This is absolute grounds for further investigation, and like anything in law under investigation, should be frozen until investigation is finished

 

[dviss1]

No, the video tapes of what Carly stupidly said was false. The "unedited" tapes have been given, which cannot be refuted. There were heads of PP that discussed how they sell the tissue for profit. There is nothing that can deny that. This is absolute grounds for further investigation, and like anything in law under investigation, should be frozen until investigation is finished

I've seen all those videos and they don't prove shit. The bottom line is we are off the rails here. Now we're talking about the age old debate of abortion. I'm kind of done now because this has nothing to do with the thread. We can debate abortion for as many years as we have been debating it. Pro-lifers are full of shit. They are hypocrites.

 

[riverman]

CLEARLY you aren't understanding what I said.... Selling baby parts for "PROFIT". That is 100% against the law

These are only 2.99 apiece online

 

[barfo]

CLEARLY you aren't understanding what I said.... Selling baby parts for "PROFIT". That is 100% against the law

It's also technically impossible for Planned Parenthood to do, since they are a non-profit.

barfo

 

[Stevenson]

I will miss John Boehner. A good man. Old school. Reasonable. And he isn't shy of crying. Gotta love that!

 

[BrianFromWA]

It's hard to debate against so much bullshit in this post. You've never proved me to be incorrect. You just keep sharing your opinion.

Sigh.
Post 82 you said that you were for the President vetoing the bill, shutting down the government, because you did not know that you would have had the choice to become a parent on your own timing without them. I showed you that that's not true anymore. You said "I can afford condoms now. But for people who can't, 7-eleven stores sell three condoms for $4.99. Condoms should not be that expensive and frankly there are people who cannot afford that. That's the problem...". So I showed you where you could get free condoms that didn't involve PP. You still think they should be funded. Then you said "The bottom line is abortion is legal and I don't have a problem with federal funding going toward it." Except that the country does...it's illegal to use federal funds for abortions that don't involve rape, incest or imminent health danger (Hyde Amendment). So now I've shown that even though they don't receive money for abortions, they don't have a monopoly on contraceptions (free or otherwise), and they aren't the only providers in low-income neighborhoods, you still say that you're with the President and with PP. What am I supposed to keep talking to you about?

Again more of your opinion. And if you think that going into Iraq was protection then I have some more swampland to sell you. You are for expanding the death penalty but you are against abortion..... You pro lifers kill me pun intended.

Why, dviss, do you want to keep murders, war criminals and rapists alive but kill children?

 

[BrianFromWA]

You forgot "pro-traditional marriage"

I didn't. Thanks for playing.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Crying means you care. Or that you are a crybaby. One of those.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I didn't. Thanks for playing.

Just completing the caricature.

 

[riverman]

CLEARLY you aren't understanding what I said.... Selling baby parts for "PROFIT". That is 100% against the law

These on sale for 1.99

 

[barfo]

No, the video tapes of what Carly stupidly said was false. The "unedited" tapes have been given, which cannot be refuted. There were heads of PP that discussed how they sell the tissue for profit. There is nothing that can deny that. This is absolute grounds for further investigation, and like anything in law under investigation, should be frozen until investigation is finished

Your assertion that 'anything in law under investigation' is frozen is false. The entire country would grind to a halt if that were true.

barfo

 

[BrianFromWA]

My guess is you're probably anti healthcare for all as well? This makes you pro birth. You are not pro life. The term pro life was stolen from the anti capital punishment movement. Know your history. You simply cannot be pro-life if you are pro war, Pro death penalty, and pro gun.

You can't just assign a position and then attack it. You're correct on one part, though, I'm not "pro-life". I'm "anti-abortion" (except in certain cases) and "pro-death penalty". So let's hear what you have to say about killing children and keeping murderers, war criminals and violent rapists alive.

 

[magnifier661]

I've seen all those videos and they don't prove shit. The bottom line is we are off the rails here. Now we're talking about the age old debate of abortion. I'm kind of done now because this has nothing to do with the thread. We can debate abortion for as many years as we have been debating it. Pro-lifers are full of shit. They are hypocrites.

Holy shit dude!!!! If top executives talk about making profit off tissue, that is reasonable doubt, which will justify investigation.

 

[magnifier661]

Your assertion that 'anything in law under investigation' is frozen is false. The entire country would grind to a halt if that were true.

barfo

You are absolutely wrong. Once an investigation is opened, congress have every right to freeze the money.

 

[dviss1]

Sigh.
Post 82 you said that you were for the President vetoing the bill, shutting down the government, because you did not know that you would have had the choice to become a parent on your own timing without them. I showed you that that's not true anymore. You said "I can afford condoms now. But for people who can't, 7-eleven stores sell three condoms for $4.99. Condoms should not be that expensive and frankly there are people who cannot afford that. That's the problem...". So I showed you where you could get free condoms that didn't involve PP. You still think they should be funded. Then you said "The bottom line is abortion is legal and I don't have a problem with federal funding going toward it." Except that the country does...it's illegal to use federal funds for abortions that don't involve rape, incest or imminent health danger (Hyde Amendment). So now I've shown that even though they don't receive money for abortions, they don't have a monopoly on contraceptions (free or otherwise), and they aren't the only providers in low-income neighborhoods, you still say that you're with the President and with PP. What am I supposed to keep talking to you about?


Why, dviss, do you want to keep murders, war criminals and rapists alive but kill children?

It's hard to debate against someone who thinks that Iraq was the right thing to do.

Just because I support funding going to abortion doesn't mean it is. I know about the Hyde Amendment. That hasn't had any bearing on what I believe. Again you are being a hypocrite by being pro life in the first place because you are not pro life. You are pro birth. So that little motherfucker better be able to hit the ground running because you don't give a shit about them after they're born.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Just completing the caricature.

Does it help? Pretending I'm a caricature instead of a pretty smart dude with some pretty sound logic behind his convictions that may be worth listening to?

 

[dviss1]

You can't just assign a position and then attack it. You're correct on one part, though, I'm not "pro-life". I'm "anti-abortion" (except in certain cases) and "pro-death penalty". So let's hear what you have to say about killing children and keeping murderers, war criminals and violent rapists alive.

So you also believe in Team America World Police. Yeah can we be done now?

 

[magnifier661]

So you also believe in Team America World Police. Yeah can we be done now?

Well, I'm sure he doesn't believe in taxing America 2.2 trillion dollars because we don't know how to spend 3 trillion on the free market.

 

[dviss1]

In closing: John Boehner quits because the Republican Party is splintering and he didn't have any control over his house. Peter King was right by saying that the crazies are taking over. Why the hell else would trump be the front runner? He's just as crazy as all the other ones. Have fun with your next white male. We all know that's the only demographic that will be in power on that side of the aisle.

/Thread

 

[dviss1]

Well, I'm sure he doesn't believe in taxing America 2.2 trillion dollars because we don't know how to spend 3 trillion on the free market.

Sure, he just rather waste 2.2 trillion policing the world.