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There is no political disagreement between McCarthy people and Never Kevin people. It's just that there is a huge, and more and more dominant, faction in the Republican party that has no interest in legislating and governing. That is boring. What people like Joe Biden do. They aren't politicians, they are performers. They want to be on right wing media, build Twitter followings, raise money, and above all, own the libs. Who gives a shit if government shuts down and seniors don't get social security? Or if Ukraine can't get weapons? (They prefer Putin anyway.) Or there is not federal response to national disaster. They are owning the libs!
 
There is no political disagreement between McCarthy people and Never Kevin people. It's just that there is a huge, and more and more dominant, faction in the Republican party that has no interest in legislating and governing. That is boring. What people like Joe Biden do. They aren't politicians, they are performers. They want to be on right wing media, build Twitter followings, raise money, and above all, own the libs. Who gives a shit if government shuts down and seniors don't get social security? Or if Ukraine can't get weapons? (They prefer Putin anyway.) Or there is not federal response to national disaster. They are owning the libs!
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Chaos in the House: Is This Just the Start of a Far-Right Attempt to Make Congress Dysfunctional?

 
McCarthy has now lost 9 votes, three apiece Tuesday, Wednesday, and Today. It is the first time since 1923 it has taken at least 9 votes to elect a speaker.
 
This is the opportunity for the Republicans to take this party back. Support somebody that enough democrats will vote for and cut the MAGA fools out.
 
This is the opportunity for the Republicans to take this party back. Support somebody that enough democrats will vote for and cut the MAGA fools out.

...yeah, give it back to war mongering neocons. The old establishment GOP needs to burn down. Make it 100 votes, IDGAF.
 
McCarthy has now lost a 10th vote.
 
...yeah, give it back to war mongering neocons. The old establishment GOP needs to burn down. Make it 100 votes, IDGAF.
Well, it's better than MAGA... I don't think scorched earth is good for anyone
 
...yeah, give it back to war mongering neocons. The old establishment GOP needs to burn down. Make it 100 votes, IDGAF.

Can you clarify what exactly was bad about the Neocons? These guys are literally Raegan acolytes, and the GOP loves to lionize Raegan and his 'accomplishments'.

Raegan loved:
  • Lowering taxes
  • Running huge deficits
  • Starving the beast
  • Projecting US military power
  • Being anti-Russian/Soviet
  • Being Laissez-faire about economic and environmental regulations

Neo-Cons love:
  • Lowering taxes
  • Running huge deficits
  • Starving the beast
  • Projecting US military power
  • Being anti-Russian/Soviet
  • Being Laissez-faire about economic and environmental regulations
This new MAGA crew love... what exactly? I honestly can't see any kind of coherent reasoning in their policies or agenda, they just want to sew chaos and revel in the notoriety of sewing said chaos. What exactly is good about that, for well, anyone?
 
Can you clarify what exactly was bad about the Neocons? These guys are literally Raegan acolytes, and the GOP loves to lionize Raegan and his 'accomplishments'.

Raegan loved:
  • Lowering taxes
  • Running huge deficits
  • Starving the beast
  • Projecting US military power
  • Being anti-Russian/Soviet
  • Being Laissez-faire about economic and environmental regulations

Neo-Cons love:
  • Lowering taxes
  • Running huge deficits
  • Starving the beast
  • Projecting US military power
  • Being anti-Russian/Soviet
  • Being Laissez-faire about economic and environmental regulations
This new MAGA crew love... what exactly? I honestly can't see any kind of coherent reasoning in their policies or agenda, they just want to sew chaos and revel in the notoriety of sewing said chaos. What exactly is good about that, for well, anyone?

starting wars for economic profit.
 
starting wars for economic profit.

Okay, so is that the only thing you don't like about Neo-cons? You're good with everything else? Just against starting wars for economic profit?
 
That's a pretty big thing.

I think all rationale people are against that, yes. But then why do you support these 20 folks? Do you genuinely believe that if Donald Trump had attempted to start a war in say 2019 that all 20 of them would vote against legislation authorizing him to exercise said war?
 
I think all rationale people are against that, yes. But then why do you support these 20 folks? Do you genuinely believe that if Donald Trump had attempted to start a war in say 2019 that all 20 of them would vote against legislation authorizing him to exercise said war?

I'm not even following this that closely.

People are free to vote for what they want, if it doesn't meet the threshold then it doesn't. That's why they put it to a vote.
 
I'm not even following this that closely.

People are free to vote for what they want, if it doesn't meet the threshold then it doesn't. That's why they put it to a vote.

I see, you just want to burn it down, because, well, reasons. Okay then. May I ask, while you and your friends are busy burning it all down and punishing the GOP establishment, can you please leave the rest of us out of it? Please don't drive the world economy off the cliff by causing the government to default for Christmas 2023... Please!
 
I see, you just want to burn it down, because, well, reasons. Okay then. May I ask, while you and your friends are busy burning it all down and punishing the GOP establishment, can you please leave the rest of us out of it? Please don't drive the world economy off the cliff by causing the government to default for Christmas 2023... Please!

Yes, by not electing a certain guy speaker of the house, the world economy is going to melt down (more than it already has the last 2 years)
 
A former Republican Congressman said they really need a Nancy Pelosi.
 
He should remove his name from consideration to spare himself further embarrassment. But, he won't.


I agree, but like the old saying says, "The devil you know. " At least we kinda know McCarthy, but I'm afraid that whomever they elect instead could be even worse..ie, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz ?
 
Jim Jordan doesn't want to be speaker. He wants to chair Judiciary committee and use it for revenge. Impeach Biden. Investigate, so called, Hunter's laptop, Hillary's emails, Dr. Fauci, Russia investigation, anyone else on hit list
 

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