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Is this like stonks? Shouldn't you guys being waiting to buy at the dip instead of at the peak?

Asking for @EL PRESIDENTE.
 

I think we're talking about two different dips, I'm talking about a dip in price, not a dip into the side of a mountain.





Too soon?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Is this like stonks? Shouldn't you guys being waiting to buy at the dip instead of at the peak?

Asking for @EL PRESIDENTE.
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Wish I had never lost interest and kept loading up on star player rookies over the years. Seems so obvious now but why wasn't I buying Kobe, Lebron and Brady rookies back in the day.
 
When your ready to ship your order use USPS registered mail. You can insure it up to $50k for pretty cheap and it's an extra secure shipping method for valuables or documents. UPS or Fedex can't insure at those levels for those prices, it's not even close.
 
donkiez said:
If it was 87 through 91 we might have seen each other there
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84-91!
Graduated from madison in 91. And moved up to seattle but those years i spent riding my bike up there from 82nd and halsey. Couldnt get my license until i was 18....
 
Orion Bailey said:
84-91!
Graduated from madison in 91. And moved up to seattle but those years i spent riding my bike up there from 82nd and halsey. Couldnt get my license until i was 18....
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Wait, it took you 7 years to graduate from high school?

#NoJudgement
 
Orion Bailey said:
84-91!
Graduated from madison in 91. And moved up to seattle but those years i spent riding my bike up there from 82nd and halsey. Couldnt get my license until i was 18....
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Close I graduated in 96. You must have been the def leppard and guns in roses generation. I was of the age of Pearl Jam and Nirvana
 
donkiez said:
Close I graduated in 96. You must have been the def leppard and guns in roses generation. I was of the age of Pearl Jam and Nirvana
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i hated hair spray! lol. I was all grunge bro. Im a musician. MotherLoveBone was the true transition cd from hair metal to grunge.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
That was my dad and my thing from when I was 4 to about 15. Friday nights once a month or so we would go get a box and open them together. Great memories.
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Anything you can do with your father provides great memories. Unfortunately I never got to do anything at all with my father until he grew up and showered my with attention when I was 12. There's a hole in my life.
 
Orion Bailey said:
i hated hair spray! lol. I was all grunge bro. Im a musician. MotherLoveBone was the true transition cd from hair metal to grunge.
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I also never used hairspray. In my last year of college I got a roommate who used an entire large size can of white Rain every week and his hair wasn't really long. He had one of those salon type bonnet-style hair dryers and he would tape his hair until he had it just right. The whole process of showering, shaving, using the toilet and doing his hair took between one and two hours. I always wondered why he decorated his bedroom in pink and had this wooden miniature windmill in the living room window with a fairy climbing a ladder. About ten or twelve years earlier, I thought this one guy was gay and it turned out that I was wrong. So, I promised myself that I would never judge someone by their appearance. I lived with James, not Jim, for two terms, six months, when he had a buddy on the U.S. Olympic ski team visit with him. Now James went to my University and pledged a fraternity that put out a college pin up calendar with his girlfriend as one of the featured girls of the month. I thought he must be straight. So he and his buddy went out that night and I went my separate way. I got home late and was pretty smashed so I went right to bed. I got up early and put on a football game. After a while I heard talking in James' room. Then he and his buddy come out. The buddy says his polite goodbys and leaves. As soon as the buddy was gone I told James that when he had company spend the night I had a spare sleeping bag and the couch folded down into a bed. I said all he had to do was come up with an extra pillow. He looks at me and smiles and then tells me that's alright. Bingo, a little light comes on in my head and I realized what the deal was. My logging friend, who was a forestry major in college, never could stand James and now I knew why. I can be so dumb at times. My girlfriend worked with James and told me about his effeminate ways at the clothing store, Lipman–Wolfe, where they worked.
All this just to tell you I never used hair spray. Please forgive me for this long winded story having little to do with my use of hair spray but sometimes I've just gotta get it off my chest.
 
In 1999 (or was it 2000?) I went into a card shop and bought a pack of first year Pokemon cards. I had no idea what they were other than that it was the next big thing with kids. I held onto that unopened pack for years and decades, and now I can't find it. I moved a few years ago and a few things when missing in the move, kind of suspiciously ao that's my best guess as to what happened to them. Maybe a visitor stole them over the years also, they weren't locked up or anything but they weren't laying out either. I have torn my whole house apart looking for that pack and have pretty much given up. Now that pack is worth about $30k unopened, there could be a $300k charazard in it or one of a few $50k+ cards, I think commons go for about $10k.
 
Very painful day for me. I got notified that one of my card grades were ready so I excitedly logged on to see. It was my 1986 fleer Jordan rookie. I bought it at a card show over 30 years ago and never took it out of it's case. It was a large, thick screw down so I figured it was the best thing for it. Ive since read that the screw down cases can damage your card and I found out that is the case with this card. The grade was a N5 altered stock. There's actually potential that the card was altered before I bought it but I'm pretty sure it was the case, but I'll I've to wait for more info. Many people have said they had the same thing happen and when I opened the hard case up the card was literally stuck to one side, I had a real hard time getting it unstuck without damaging it. My only saving grace here is that the print was off some so I knew it wasn't a million dollar card anyway, my estimate was 25k with a possible upside triple that. I paid $1k to get this grade so that makes it all that much more painful. No discounts, thanks PSA. After some research I've found that PSA won't grade cards they considered altered and rightfully so because of people trying to press corners and wrinkles. However BGS is more relaxed on not considering this issue an altering issue. And is more likely to overlook it or just give it a reduced grade.

Most of my really good cards were in screw downs so this could bite me a few more times, but I am hopeful not because this screw down was the only one in my collection of it's kind. Most others had plastic screws or small metal ones that are hard to tighten all the way down. I might start drinking early tonight though.
 
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I'll give you a bright shiny silver dollar for those.
 
donkiez said:
Very painful day for me. I got notified that one of my card grades were ready so I excitedly logged on to see. It was my 1986 fleer Jordan rookie. I bought it at a card show over 30 years ago and never took it out of it's case. It was a large, thick screw down so I figured it was the best thing for it. Ive since read that the screw down cases can damage your card and I found out that is the case with this card. The grade was a N5 altered stock. There's actually potential that the card was altered before I bought it but I'm pretty sure it was the case, but I'll I've to wait for more info. Many people have said they had the same thing happen and when I opened the hard case up the card was literally stuck to one side, I had a real hard time getting it unstuck without damaging it. My only saving grace here is that the print was off some so I knew it wasn't a million dollar card anyway, my estimate was 25k with a possible upside triple that. I paid $1k to get this grade so that makes it all that much more painful. No discounts, thanks PSA. After some research I've found that PSA won't grade cards they considered altered and rightfully so because of people trying to press corners and wrinkles. However BGS is more relaxed on not considering this issue an altering issue. And is more likely to overlook it or just give it a reduced grade.

Most of my really good cards were in screw downs so this could bite me a few more times, but I am hopeful not because this screw down was the only one in my collection of it's kind. Most others had plastic screws or small metal ones that are hard to tighten all the way down. I might start drinking early tonight though.
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oh man i really feel for you! I might be in the same boat! Back in the day it was standard to get the screw tops for the more valuable cards! I have many like this as well.
Now im bummed too!
 
Orion Bailey said:
oh man i really feel for you! I might be in the same boat! Back in the day it was standard to get the screw tops for the more valuable cards! I have many like this as well.
Now im bummed too!
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It was disappointing on so many levels. I dont even care about the cash value loss because I was going to keep it anyway. It was a relic of my youth and one of the jewels of my collection. To make it even more heartbreaking, it was bought with my dad as a present to me at a collectors show. I still haven't told him yet but hes been anxiously awaiting the results. Ive done some research and I can still get it authenticated/altered graded by PSA but I have to specifically request that. Authentic/alters are going for about $5k on ebay so its not a total loss. I think I might send it into beckett instead and try my luck there, I read some people said they had success doing that. I had a total of about 20 of my best cards all kept in screw downs the but Jordan was the only one that with its type of case so I am hopefull the others will be fine. Also the Jordan was the only one that was stuck to the case when I opened it. I am very worried though and a little dejected. PSA takes forever and I have all my orders sitting there for a month or more now. So all I can do is wait right now.

You should take yours out of the screw cases, but no rush cause if there was damage then its already done. If you hang tight Ill keep you guys informed on how mine turn out as they come back so you can determine your risk. I read that you can scan the cards with a black light and it will show "pressing" damage, I haven't tired that yet so I cant confirm.
 
donkiez said:
It was disappointing on so many levels. I dont even care about the cash value loss because I was going to keep it anyway. It was a relic of my youth and one of the jewels of my collection. To make it even more heartbreaking, it was bought with my dad as a present to me at a collectors show. I still haven't told him yet but hes been anxiously awaiting the results. Ive done some research and I can still get it authenticated/altered graded by PSA but I have to specifically request that. Authentic/alters are going for about $5k on ebay so its not a total loss. I think I might send it into beckett instead and try my luck there, I read some people said they had success doing that. I had a total of about 20 of my best cards all kept in screw downs the but Jordan was the only one that with its type of case so I am hopefull the others will be fine. Also the Jordan was the only one that was stuck to the case when I opened it. I am very worried though and a little dejected. PSA takes forever and I have all my orders sitting there for a month or more now. So all I can do is wait right now.

You should take yours out of the screw cases, but no rush cause if there was damage then its already done. If you hang tight Ill keep you guys informed on how mine turn out as they come back so you can determine your risk. I read that you can scan the cards with a black light and it will show "pressing" damage, I haven't tired that yet so I cant confirm.
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Someone from Portland’s selling the same card for $200k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer...E&pageci=1e5d50ad-a7fa-4abd-afd4-8cd4b8357cd0
 
Lanny said:
I also never used hairspray. In my last year of college I got a roommate who used an entire large size can of white Rain every week and his hair wasn't really long. He had one of those salon type bonnet-style hair dryers and he would tape his hair until he had it just right. The whole process of showering, shaving, using the toilet and doing his hair took between one and two hours. I always wondered why he decorated his bedroom in pink and had this wooden miniature windmill in the living room window with a fairy climbing a ladder. About ten or twelve years earlier, I thought this one guy was gay and it turned out that I was wrong. So, I promised myself that I would never judge someone by their appearance. I lived with James, not Jim, for two terms, six months, when he had a buddy on the U.S. Olympic ski team visit with him. Now James went to my University and pledged a fraternity that put out a college pin up calendar with his girlfriend as one of the featured girls of the month. I thought he must be straight. So he and his buddy went out that night and I went my separate way. I got home late and was pretty smashed so I went right to bed. I got up early and put on a football game. After a while I heard talking in James' room. Then he and his buddy come out. The buddy says his polite goodbys and leaves. As soon as the buddy was gone I told James that when he had company spend the night I had a spare sleeping bag and the couch folded down into a bed. I said all he had to do was come up with an extra pillow. He looks at me and smiles and then tells me that's alright. Bingo, a little light comes on in my head and I realized what the deal was. My logging friend, who was a forestry major in college, never could stand James and now I knew why. I can be so dumb at times. My girlfriend worked with James and told me about his effeminate ways at the clothing store, Lipman–Wolfe, where they worked.
All this just to tell you I never used hair spray. Please forgive me for this long winded story having little to do with my use of hair spray but sometimes I've just gotta get it off my chest.
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#JackHandey
 
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