Stein: Bogut makes sense for Portland

[Boob-No-More]

Philly gives up a lottery pick to take on Crabbe and his deal?

Yeah, PHI gets totally screwed in this deal.

I applaud the idea and effort of the 3-team trade scenario, but if we're going to trade Crabbe to PHI, I think a Crabbe for Noel swap makes more sense. Colangelo has had a grudge against Noel ever since he called him silly, is totally jerking him around and wants him gone. With Embiid beasting, Okafor and Ben Simmons waiting in the wings, Noel is the odd man out in PHI To PHI, that Lakers' lottery pick is much more valuable than Nerlens Noel.

On the other hand, Noel is an elite defending big man that's only 22. Sounds like he addresses a huge need for us. We get younger (and much better defensively) and get to dump Crabbe's contract.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

Not happening. lol Crabbe has negative value. If he's gonna get you a lotto pick, I'll take Dallas out of it altogether and just swap AC for the pick.

He doesn't have negative value to Philadelphia.

I'm sure he could get us at least swap rights with that pick.

 

[Boob-No-More]

A late lotto pick is not inconceivable for Crabbe. It's their second pick and Crabbe fits well with the players the have. Might just have to nave it a right to swap 1sts deal.

So why not Crabbe for Noel? It fixes problems for both teams. PHI gets some much needed outside shooting to spread the floor for their bigs and Noel gives us an elite defending big.

Remember, Noel was a high lottery pick and he's only 22. But, in PHI he's redundant and his GM hates him for calling him silly.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

Revised:

PHI Gets:
Allen Crabbe
2018 CLE 1st

DAL Gets:
Mason Plumlee
Noah Vonleh
2018 POR 1st

POR Gets:
Nerlens Noel
Andrew Bogut
Wesley Matthews

Nets Get:
Meyers Leonard

 

[BonesJones]

So why not Crabbe for Noel? It fixes problems for both teams. PHI gets some much needed outside shooting to spread the floor for their bigs and Noel gives us an elite defending big.

BNM

If we can get a different defensive big man then I'd rather have that pick.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If we can get a different defensive big man then I'd rather have that pick.

We probably don't have that option. It's up to PHI and they have a recent history of valuing picks, especially lottery picks, over players.

BNM

 

[BBert]

To injury prone!

Too Dickish!

 

[illmatic99]

So why not Crabbe for Noel? It fixes problems for both teams. PHI gets some much needed outside shooting to spread the floor for their bigs and Noel gives us an elite defending big.

Remember, Noel was a high lottery pick and he's only 22. But, in PHI he's redundant and his GM hates him for calling him silly.

BNM

Yup, when in doubt, keep it simple. AC for Noel and entice them with a pick.

3 team and 4 team deals are fun on trade machine, but they just don't happen in reality.

 

[BonesJones]

We probably don't have that option. It's up to PHI and they have a recent history of valuing picks, especially lottery picks, over players.

BNM

Well I think I'd be willing to trade them Crabbe for swap rights to those picks.

 

[BlazerWookee]

To injury prone!

To injury prone, and beyond!

 

[illmatic99]

To injury prone, and beyond!

I want this to happen just to watch your head explode.

And them maybe we can trade Mason for Tyson Chandler and CJ for Lebron, and bring back Kobe from retirement.

Wookee spontaneous combustion. hehe

 

[DUB]

Sidebar, I red somewhere that he and Terry have beef from his time in MIL. Is this true? Kinda hard to believe given Stotts' philosophy

I can imagine anyone having a beef with Bogut, he's kind of a douche.

He'd fit in well in OT given his political bent.

Great passer, like Plums but with defence.





I think he would bring some toughness to the team, not just with his play, but also with his leadership. He can rub people the wrong way, but he has a Dame like intensity.

We'd have to manage him, make sure he got rest against lesser teams, but he is willing to play through injury.

I'm all for renting him for half a season.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Crabbe...landing us a lotto pick

And then he woke up to find his sheets were all sticky.

 

[Scalma]

Trading for Bogut would be settling in my opinion. There are other big men out there that are available that would be better for us long term. Renting does nothing for me. We are not a Bogut away from contending. Go get Nurkic or Noel!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Well I think I'd be willing to trade them Crabbe for swap rights to those picks.

You would, but they wouldn't.

PHI hasn't traded away a 1st round pick since August 2012. In that span, they've acquired seven 1st round picks via trades, as well as the right to swap several other picks (in their favor).

No way are they going to suddenly trade away a lottery pick for the honor of taking on Allen Crabbe's contract.

BNM

 

[BigGameDamian]

Gross dude.... no way do I want Wes back on this team with that salary. Plus there were rumors that he had changed before he left.

No thanks.

Once a Blazers always a Blazers!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Once a Blazers always a Blazers!

Raymond Felton says, "hi".

Would you welcome him back, too?

BNM

 

[Hobbesarable]

Raymond Felton says, "hi".

Would you welcome him back, too?

BNM

The BGD bot better put his cupcakes on lockdown if he says yes.

 

[chzbrgr]

Raymond Felton says, "hi".

Would you welcome him back, too?

BNM

Yes just for the pleasure of announcing we cut him

 

[BonesJones]

You would, but they wouldn't.

PHI hasn't traded away a 1st round pick since August 2012. In that span, they've acquired seven 1st round picks via trades, as well as the right to swap several other picks (in their favor).

No way are they going to suddenly trade away a lottery pick for the honor of taking on Allen Crabbe's contract.

BNM

Yeah, but Sam Presti was GM.

I think Colangelo values picks less than he did.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The BGD bot better put his cupcakes on lockdown if he says yes.

Or buy stock in Voodoo Donuts.

BNM

 

[Hobbesarable]

Or buy stock in Voodoo Donuts.

BNM

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah, but Sam Presti was GM.

I think Colangelo values picks less than he did.

Sam Hinkie.

And, I'm not sure about Bryan Colangelo. He tried to trade Okafor during this year's draft to acquire another lottery pick, and he refused to trade the No. 1 pick in TOR because he wanted to draft Andrea Bargnani. Sounds to me like another guy who values the thrill of the draft over acquiring known talent.

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Wesley Matthews is rumored to be on the trading block too.

Interesting. He's a chip off the ol' trading block... a bone chip.

 

[BlazerWookee]

If we can trade for Bogut without triggering the luxury tax this year, I'm willing to listen...

 

[riverman]

Could just bring in Kaman for the vets minimum on the cheap....he knows the gameplan

 

[PDXFonz]

Let's get the old gang back together again!
Not sure how Weswill feel about going to the bench, tho...

I agree. Not sure Wes' ego could handle backing up his old back up.

 

[riverman]

Interesting. He's a chip off the ol' trading block... a bone chip.

I've seen Wes this year...whew....

 

[Tunchi]

Let's get the old gang back together again!
Not sure how CJ will feel about going back to the bench, tho...

Haha Wes is garbage now if anything he'd be spot minutes guy off the bench

 

[Blazers Roy]

Turner for Bogut sounds like a logical Cuban trade right now.