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kreidertime said:
He's sucked all year anyway. To moron Chuck. McIlrath beat the crap out of the guy who did it. If he wasn't there, the rest of the pussies would have done nothing and then McDonagh would have gotten run at later in the game. God you're a moron. You just can't admit you are wrong about anything.
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IT DIDNT STOP HIM FROM TAKING LIBERTIES NOW DID IT!

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The hit was dirty. However, the fact is that McIlrath did something about it. Rather then the past 5 years where nobody on this team has an ounce of balls. He was also the best defenseman out there by a mile today. He actually threw, you know, a big hit on a forward when the dumbass tried to enter our zone. Haven't seen our defenseman to that in 5 years.
 
Yeah he did something and all the Rangers got out of it was a tie game.
 
Wrong about what dump? The hit still happened of course, no one player is going to stop a team from playing how they are going to play despite what you say.

And I wrote during the game after it happened I loved what McIlrath did there, and AV better play him again tomorrow for that reason alone.

So once again I am LOST trying to figure out your point. Is it that I have said time after time that if I were the coach I would play McIlrath over Boyle a lot more than AV has? Is it that I said after he had Stepan's back today that I loved what he did and AV better play him tomorrow?

Come on dumpy...:).
 
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Messiah717 said:
Yeah he did something and all the Rangers got out of it was a tie game.
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Very true, but I really liked what McIlrath did there. To me it was the right move especially in game 23 of the regular season. Maybe it will serve as some sort of message for later in the season.

If this was late in the season or the playoffs I think I would feel differently, cannot afford a PP against in a huge game, but in game 23 of the regular season I really liked what McIlrath did today. Good for him and the team I think.
 
Anyone would like what he did but the only thing it showed was he is a great teammate. It clearly didn't do anything to intimidate the Bruins. They tied the game and won it later.
 
Totally. These are grown men, no one man is going to intimidate other grown men to the point where they don't play their game. We know that. Al knows that as well. Still a good backup by McIlrath.

Also didn't stop Marchand from skating into Hank's head later in the game. The comments from him and Julien after the game about that play were flat-out comical. When I hear stuff like that it makes me happy not to be a fan of a team and coach that acts like that. Reminds me of the Habs. Funny.
 
kreidertime said:
He's sucked all year anyway. To moron Chuck. McIlrath beat the crap out of the guy who did it. If he wasn't there, the rest of the pussies would have done nothing and then McDonagh would have gotten run at later in the game. God you're a moron. You just can't admit you are wrong about anything.
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Youre trying to hard to come off as right. Youre not, the play itself proves you are wrong in your assertion that having McIlrath on the ice would deter teams for running our players....It didnt, the only thing that happened was Ballasky got his ass kicked, then the Bruins scored to tie it up. Had the refs done their jobs it wouldnt have come to that.
 
Sucks Stepan got hurt but i have zero concerned because we got off to such a great start that we have a lot of cushion. Plus this team is about the playoffs, so as long as he's back before then, and he will, there is nothing to worry about.

And i don't get the complaining about the call/non call. Whether it's a non-call or 10min game misconduct that's still not going to heal Stepan's ribs any quicker.
 
McIlrath's play would be more effective if the rest of the team would grow some balls. They pussy defenseman on this team are a joke. The forwards don't hit anybody. Hank gets hit in the head, nobody does crap. The NHL needs to make the instigator penalty a judgement call in which the ref can say the player didn't start a fight out of frustration because of the score or just to have a fight. The rule is getting dumb. Part of the reason the Rangers can never clear the zone is because they are pussies. They take hit after hit and just try to pass it out of the zone. This team is freakin soft. It's so obvious. Shame some of our moron fans on this board know so little about hockey and can't grasp that.
 
No supplemental discipline is expected. (LeBrun)


BTW... I do agree with dump that the team needs to get tougher...having McIlrath should/will help that on D. I am still concerned about that upfront though. That always is my concern. Where is the toughness upfront that can score dirty goals pounding and banging down low?

It will be Kreider once every 4 games or so, but that isn't enough. It is a concern I have come playoff time...the ONLY time that truly counts for this team.
 
This isn't ESPN. Do we really need the moron card constantly played?
 
chuckd3534 said:
No supplemental discipline is expected. (LeBrun)


BTW... I do agree with dump that the team needs to get tougher...having McIlrath should/will help that on D. I am still concerned about that upfront though. That always is my concern. Where is the toughness upfront that can score dirty goals pounding and banging down low?

It will be Kreider once every 4 games or so, but that isn't enough. It is a concern I have come playoff time...the ONLY time that truly counts for this team.
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Of course there's no discipline expected. The name on the back of the jersey isn't a superstar like Crosby or Malkin or Ovie. NHL, where consistency doesn't exist.
 
Laughable. As Boomer says. NHL hits the screwtherangers button again.

McLeod might be a very nice addition to our 4th line. I'm sure he would be reasonable to obtain.
 
By the way, Dubinsky gets a hearing for a cross check on Crosby. Belesky gets nothing. Once again. Consistency. It simply doesn't exist in the realm of the NHL.
 
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If that's a hit the NHL wants in the game I don't know what to tell you. File it away until the next meeting.
 
Messiah717 said:
If that's a hit the NHL wants in the game I don't know what to tell you. File it away until the next meeting.
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That's what I'm saying. It's the EXACT type of hit the NHL has said they want to get out, along with headshots. A late hit, when the puck has been moved away and resulting in injury. I simply give up on figuring out what rule book the NHL follows.
 
Every player should be protected by this league; yet,
the NHL officials only worry about the high profile
players. NHL policy must change. They are
getting it wrong.
 
Cage, can't disagree with you but this league has always been about protecting the stars unfortunately at the expense of the other players
 
The discrepancy in discipline among teams (especially/primarily the Rangers) has gone on for decades in the NHL. I freely admit that I've wanted McIlrath on the team for years and his play the last two days is exactly why, they need his physical presence. Would have been nice to see the Captain rally his troops but I just don't see McDonough doing much of that. Stepan hit was a cheap shot, highly unlikely the Rangers would make Boston pay if a penalty was called anyway, a beatdown leaves a much longer lasting impression.
 
Bottom line..they lost the last two games...pay back..intimidating. .what ever you want to call it...they lost

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I don't put that on McIlrath, he's played a handful of games and I think he's played solid hockey. I agree with Chuck and others about CK, Miller & Fast. They need to start doing something. The softness the Rangers forwards have displayed lately might call for AV to bring up the beloved Tanner Glass for Stepan 's spot.
 
I think you guys are both right. McIlrath should play. He adds an element on the D that is good for the team. We need what McIlrath brings. We don't need what Boyle brings. Mac should have been playing more often over Boyle...hopefully he will be given a little run here. But simply playing McIlrath isn't going scare other teams, or make us a much tougher team overall, or win us games just because he is there and "intimidating" teams.

To me Etem, Miller, Hayes, Kreider are the keys. What have we gotten from those guys? Etem...zero. Miller and Kreider 7 goals combined. Hayes has 6 goals, but he really hasn't taken a step forward from last year IMO. We need more from these (4) if you want to really be a big team. Kreider clearly # 1, but Hayes is # 2 to me in terms of frustration.

And we still pass too much. Hayes refuses to shoot sometimes. Yesterday both Lindberg and Zucc had good chances...but instead decided to pass to covered guys and we got no shot. It frustrates the hell out of me. The small % of time those pretty plays work doesn't outweigh the option of just shooting the puck and see what happens. Shoot the darn puck...
 
Chuck quote :But simply playing McIlrath isn't going scare other teams, or make us a much tougher team overall, or win us games just because he is there and "intimidating" teams.

Chuck, I disagree as Having Mac in there Has every opposing forward coming into our zone with their heads up. And yes you still might get a braindead opponent taking a cheap shot every now and then but after the last 2 games and watching him kick the crap out of the offender the word will get around fast enough what will happen afterward. Noticed 2 ranger past cheap shot artists wilson and rinaldo very quiet with Mac in the lineup. At this point I've seen enough to say Mac should be 1 of our 6 d-men every game now and the guy I would play him with is McD as girardi is killing him. The more this kid plays the better he gets and that move in the d end where he faked one way and went around the net the other way leaving the forechecker looking for his jockstrap in the corner should put to rest the notion that this kid can't skate.
 
We'll agree to disagree Mel McIlrath...:). I don't think other grown men will be scared or intimidated to play the Rangers because of McIlrath. Didn't seem to stop the hit on Stepan. Also lost both games McIlrath has played recently.

But with that said I would leave him in over Boyle for sure as I have said for a while. I am just not at the level of most in here that McIlrath is a one man intimidation/wrecking crew. I think I am more in line with Al on this one.
 
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Chuck....Also lost both games McIlrath has played recently.

And also lost both games recently that McD, staal, girardi, klein and Yandle played in also. So what!!
 
He did play well...I agree. That is why I would continue to play him over Boyle as I have been saying. I just don't agree with the thinking that McIlrath is some one man intimidation/wrecking crew. That's where we disagree. He won't intimidate other grown men and prevent them from doing what they will do...no hockey player really does that IMO.

This isn't some deal where either you slobber all over McIlrath and think he will intimidate everyone OR you are against him.

I think he should play. I think he played well the past two games. I would continue to have him in over Boyle. I just don't think he will intimidate all these teams from doing what they will do.
 
The point again ill make, donwe want 1 dman being in the box 5 to 17 minutes a game because he has to drop the gloves?
To say once word gets arounf the league is old too...in the age of the Internet Facebook twitter instagram do you really think it takes time for players to know what dylan is all about?
You dont think before the game when the lineup is revealed teams dont say hey dylan is out there?

It didnt stop the bullshit hit on stepan from happening.

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BigDaddyAl1973 said:
The point again ill make, donwe want 1 dman being in the box 5 to 17 minutes a game because he has to drop the gloves?
To say once word gets arounf the league is old too...in the age of the Internet Facebook twitter instagram do you really think it takes time for players to know what dylan is all about?
You dont think before the game when the lineup is revealed teams dont say hey dylan is out there?

It didnt stop the bullshit hit on stepan from happening.

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Good points Al. I don't want him missing all that time either protecting his teammates and I think a change of strategy is needed such as waiting a couple of shifts before getting payback and avoiding that instigator and misconduct part which by the way is a bullshit rule by the league that protects the cheap shot artists that never get suspended unless they breathe on cindy. Or yesterdays strategy even better; make a big hit and then beat the shit out of anyone who comes looking for payback and let them get the extra 12 minutes.
 
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