Steph Curry is Trash?

[SheedSoNasty]

Curry is obviously not trash.

That being said, it’s a shame that Dame has fallen out of the conversation for MVP. He led his team to a good record while missing key pieces and then he willed his team and took the onus on himself to turn things around when things got bad.

It’s looking like that change wasn’t just a flash in the pan and the team has been performing well since. Dame is THE best leader in the NBA and should be in the conversation more so than Curry, who didn’t make the playoffs.

 

[Ed O]

To answer the thread title: no. He's far from trash.

That Warriors team around him? That's trash, especially with Thompson and Wiseman out.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

To answer the thread title: no. He's far from trash.

That Warriors team around him? That's trash, especially with Thompson and Wiseman out.

They actually played better after Wiseman got hurt.

 

[Chris Craig]

It’s ridiculous. Might as well give MVP to Karl-Anthony Towns.

Fuck, might as well give it to Zion

 

[STOMP]

Decent players like Michael Jordan never had problems with double teams. What’s Curry’s excuse?

Unlike Mike, Curry draws double teams well outside the 3 point line . Dump it to Green in the middle for 4 on 3 who dishes to cutters & open shooters. They rode that formula to the most efficient offense in the league & a title through prime LBJ before KD arrived. Whats the excuse for that?

It's a team game. Mike won zero titles without HOFer Pip. Hakeem went to the finals with Sampson as a rookie but then Ralph crumpled to injury. Dream toiled away for a decade with Vernon Maxwell and like dreck as his wing men. Then Horry & Cassell show up in successive drafts and old man Hakeem is in the finals again and they win 2. No apologies. Last season with mostly the same roster minus Curry the W's finished dead last in the league. This year with him they finished on the cusp of the playoffs. Thats talent moving the needle. Without shooters, Draymond struggles for a role on offense. Teamed with Curry again, his effectiveness returned. They'll have 1-2 lotto picks (Wolves #1 top 3 protected) in the next absolutely loaded draft and hopefully for him/them Klay Thompson regains his health & game. Their future is very bright. At the end of the day Curry will be recognized as an all time talent when he's inducted. Some will disagree, whatever.

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[Ed O]

They actually played better after Wiseman got hurt.

That's a sample size thing. A full season of Wiseman would have been better for the Warriors than a partial season from him.

And more wins doesn't mean better players. Wiseman was a rookie but anyone who watched him knows he was a difference-maker. Losing him meant plugging in a replacement-level guy, and that's brutal when you're talking about a big man.

 

[LayneStaley]

If the NBA gives the MVP to a player on a team that didn’t even make the playoffs I might be done, Lebron has almost pushed me to that point alone.

 

[THE HCP]

Yeah, I could totally understand how watching arguably the BEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME, might sour you a bit.

 

[LayneStaley]

He’s no where near the best player, and out of all of the great players that I’ve watched from the 90s until now he has the most cheesedick phony personality of them all. What kind of asshole thinks he lives in a world where he can trademark “Taco Tuesday” in 2020? He doesn’t sniff Kobe or MJ’s jockstrap. The funny thing is those guys would pretend to be healthy when they were hurt, Lebron pretends to be hurt when he’s healthy. I’ve seen him roll around on the floor acting like he’s been shot from the stands in his past 2 games only to see in replays that they were common fouls, it’s actually pretty embarrassing. Complete POS, everything about that dude screams fake.

 

[THE HCP]

He’s no where near the best player, and out of all of the great players that I’ve watched from the 90s until now he has the most cheesedick phony personality of them all. What kind of asshole thinks he lives in a world where he can trademark “Taco Tuesday” in 2020? He doesn’t sniff Kobe or MJ’s jockstrap. The funny thing is those guys would pretend to be healthy when they were hurt, Lebron pretends to be hurt when he’s healthy. Complete POS, everything about that dude screams fake.

You have a TON of pent up rage against this man.
“Nowhere near the best”, hmm. There are a few who would disagree.
The Taco Tuesday thing caught on, and because of it he started a campaign during Covid 2020 where every Tuesday he fed families all across Cleveland. Delivered meals to 10s of thousands. I think that is pretty cool.
I could go on and on about the OFFCOURT charity and philanthropy as I could about his ONCOURT accomplishments, but I do know he pays for college for all the graduates of his school. I’m not sure “POS” would be the term I’d use to describe him.

 

[LayneStaley]

So the best player in the nba is a career super team ring chaser who pretends to be hurt a lot of the time when he’s healthy, got it.

ps he’s worth half a billion dollars, he should be doing the charity work he’s doing x 10, especially with how opinionated and vocal he is with his political beliefs. Let’s agree to disagree on the greatness of Lebron.

 

[THE HCP]

So the best player in the nba is a career super team ring chaser who pretends to be hurt a lot of the time when he’s healthy, got it.

ps he’s worth half a billion dollars, he should be doing the charity work he’s doing x 10, especially with how opinionated and vocal he is with his political beliefs. Let’s agree to disagree on the greatness of Lebron.

I didn’t say he was the best. I said arguably.
He does more charity work than 80% of the NBA combined. He deserves credit for his work in the community. Just don’t understand the hate is all. Like they say, they only hate the Great Ones.

 

[LayneStaley]

I didn’t say he was the best. I said arguably.
He does more charity work than 80% of the NBA combined. He deserves credit for his work in the community. Just don’t understand the hate is all. Like they say, they only hate the Great Ones.

I hate Patrick Beverly too so...

That makes sense since he’s worth more than anyone else in the NBA so he probably should be doing the most. I don’t think anyone who has lost as many championships as Lebron could ever be considered the GOAT.

 

[blazerkor]

He’s no where near the best player, and out of all of the great players that I’ve watched from the 90s until now he has the most cheesedick phony personality of them all. What kind of asshole thinks he lives in a world where he can trademark “Taco Tuesday” in 2020? He doesn’t sniff Kobe or MJ’s jockstrap. The funny thing is those guys would pretend to be healthy when they were hurt, Lebron pretends to be hurt when he’s healthy. I’ve seen him roll around on the floor acting like he’s been shot from the stands in his past 2 games only to see in replays that they were common fouls, it’s actually pretty embarrassing. Complete POS, everything about that dude screams fake.

I don't understand how people like you miss so badly when sizing up LeBron James. He's far more philanthropic than either of the guys you just said he didn't sniff their jockstrap. He gets pummeled all of the time like Shaq did because the refs seem to figure he can take it. Yeah, because he takes more abuse than anyone else in the league (I'm sure Zion will be close soon) he has to give exaggerated reactions to get calls. If people would use their common sense they might realize that LeBron taking another player's best shot might not naturally knock him down but it does dislodge him from the ball, so obviously he has to do something to get the call and not the turnover. That's when he takes falls. When he rolls around, it's because he's really hurt and when he stays in games it's because he tough.

With all of the ball that you've watched since the 90s have you ever seen another player with so much athletic prowess? Have you ever seen a player with as well rounded a skill set? Really, you pointed out two guys who were great scorers and perimeter defenders when they wanted to be. Don't get me wrong MJ was so great at those things that I still have him ahead of LeBron but after MJ there's really no one else in the conversation for greatest of all time and you just want to shit on the guy. I just don't get it. Why in the world would "Taco Tuesday" even be on your radar? I'm sure you also hated "The Decision" that raised ten million dollars for under privileged kids. People who go so negative on LeBron really don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

MJ was so great at those things that I still have him ahead of LeBron but after MJ there's really no one else in the conversation for greatest of all time

Kareem always gets ignored for this discussion, but I feel like he deserves mention as well.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

He’s no where near the best player, and out of all of the great players that I’ve watched from the 90s until now he has the most cheesedick phony personality of them all. What kind of asshole thinks he lives in a world where he can trademark “Taco Tuesday” in 2020? He doesn’t sniff Kobe or MJ’s jockstrap. The funny thing is those guys would pretend to be healthy when they were hurt, Lebron pretends to be hurt when he’s healthy. I’ve seen him roll around on the floor acting like he’s been shot from the stands in his past 2 games only to see in replays that they were common fouls, it’s actually pretty embarrassing. Complete POS, everything about that dude screams fake.

lol, you really picked a couple of POSs to compare.

MJ was, and is a total asshole. He was also totally delusional as well. Dude literally failed at everything in life outside of basketball. F that guy.
Kobe was a rapist and was all about himself and "glory" - not a team guy at all. When Kobe was 36, like LBJ is now, he was shooting 41.1 eFG%, killing his team.

LBJ is a long way from perfect, but he's way better than those dudes - in pretty much every way, certainly a much better teammate.

 

[Chris Craig]

Yeah, I could totally understand how watching arguably the BEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME, might sour you a bit.

Yeah, Jordan soured alot of people

 

[AldoTrapani]

lol, you really picked a couple of POSs to compare.

MJ was, and is a total asshole. He was also totally delusional as well. Dude literally failed at everything in life outside of basketball. F that guy.
Kobe was a rapist and was all about himself and "glory" - not a team guy at all. When Kobe was 36, like LBJ is now, he was shooting 41.1 eFG%, killing his team.

LBJ is a long way from perfect, but he's way better than those dudes - in pretty much every way, certainly a much better teammate.

how was kobe a rapist? She dropped the charges and took a paycheck instead.

 

[Propagandist]

how was kobe a rapist? She dropped the charges and took a paycheck instead.

Don't be weird.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kobe-...ce-the-accusers-story-and-the-half-confession

 

[LayneStaley]

Lebron has lost 6 championships, no GOAT does that.

 

[THE HCP]

I hate Patrick Beverly too so...

That makes sense since he’s worth more than anyone else in the NBA so he probably should be doing the most. I don’t think anyone who has lost as many championships as Lebron could ever be considered the GOAT.

That’s how you judge a players value? Shit he’s made it to Finals on his own with not a lot of help. Should get MORE credit for that!

Lebron has lost 6 championships, no GOAT does that.

His teams lost BECAUSE of him?

28/11/8 average in 55 finals games.

 

[LayneStaley]

Considering he’s mostly been on super teams I don’t think that’s a good argument. At some point losing 6/10 while mostly playing in the weaker Eastern Conference where it’s much easier to make the Finals should play into his greatness. Everyone can have their own opinion on LBJ, I couldn’t care less who likes him or not, I just think it’s insane to insulate he’s the GOAT.

 

[BBert]

You are officially a troll, Eric

Hey Royo, 2006 called

 

[STOMP]

That's a sample size thing. A full season of Wiseman would have been better for the Warriors than a partial season from him.

And more wins doesn't mean better players. Wiseman was a rookie but anyone who watched him knows he was a difference-maker. Losing him meant plugging in a replacement-level guy, and that's brutal when you're talking about a big man.

Watching Wiseman he was clearly big, fast, skilled & coordinated. He also didn't know how to play within team concepts on either end. That should come with time/experience but he was not a positive for them on the court this past season as he was lost and having to think too much.

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