<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Money and talent don't win titles. If they did, the Knicks would have won this year and the Yanks would never lose. Wally won't do a damn thing for NY. He'll just give them another overpaid player who can't play defense and is only good for shooting the ball. If the Knicks ever want to go anywhere, they need to completely rethink what they're doing. They need to get rid of some of these huge contracts (Marbury, Penny, T.Thomas, Taylor, Crawford, Rose, Houston, and the list goes on...), trade off for a DEFENSIVE minded player, and stop getting selfish players who can only play on the offensive end of the court. This team has so many things wrong with it, it's not funny. Bringing in Wally won't cure any of them, for that matter, it'll likely just lead to more. They already have next to no cap space, so really, unless they can get the TWolves to bring in one of their overpaid guys, they might be hard pressed to get him. So, instead of going after him, go after someone like Donyell Marshall, who can bring it at both ends of the court. Or, even better for them, go for Tyson Chandler (next to impossible would be the odds of getting him though I think). He's pretty much what they need. He brings a great prescence defensively, he's a hustle player, rebounds well, and still has the potential to be a good scorer. However, as I said, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to get him. But nonetheless, Wally is the last thing they need. They need defense and they need to dump some contracts before this team is going to be ready to go anywhere, and Wally probably won't do either of those things for them.</div>
How can you say Wally won?t do anything for the Knicks? The Knicks do not have a perimeter threat and having one will definitely help them. Keith Van Horn was a shooter and he helped the Knicks a lot. They were rolling with him. Also when Allan Houston was playing along with Marbury the team played so much better. Having a shooter will open the floor for Marbury to penetrate and when he does they can?t double. It will also open the floor up for Sweetney and Taylor to produce in the low post. The contracts hurt, but what helps is that 30 million is expiring next year, Houston and Taylor are gone the year after, and the list goes on. You seem to be stuck on this ?selfish? topic, but the thing you fail to realize is no one on the Knicks is selfish. Despite their contract situation or them bringing in selfish players, they are still a playoff team when healthy. I don?t think the Knicks will go after Chandler. They have enough talent that hasn?t lived up to expectations. And they will probably get a serviceable big man in the draft.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Need4Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry but you can't say that because you don't even know the impact Bogut will have in the NBA yet.</div>
Exactly, so if anything, my offer would be way to much.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ignignot:</div><div class="quote_post">Wally DEFINITELY won't do either of those things for them. You know you're right about the defensive end and so do I, but man, do they need help on the boards too. You have five power forwards on your roster, and you still can't grab an offensive rebound? What?</div>
2 of the 5 power forwards we have came over after the trading deadline, the rest of them happen to be very good rebounders. Sweetney averages 5 rebounds in 20 minutes, Kurt Thomas averages 10.4 which is good enough for 7th in the league, and Jerome Williams as we all know is a very good rebounder.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wally is not the answer to ANY team's problems. Not by a long shot. I guess maybe the Spurs could've used an outside shooter before this season, but being the brains they are, they got Brent Barry instead, much more solid player. Barry hustles and gets it done. Wally bitches and moans, constantly. And he has utterly no first step or defensive ability or drive. So nix the Wally aspirations. Next up, fire Isiah, hire someone who knows what they're doing, and then get rid of Penny, get rid of Kurt Thomas (he's a player all right, but too much money for too little production), unload Jamal Crawford, unload Marbury, basically you're overhauling your entire lineup.</div>
Wally might not be the sole answer, but he will help the team. While you might think highly of him, he?s an excellent shooter and an all-star. Kurt Thomas gets 6 million this year and is one of the few big men in the league who averages a double-double. He?s an excellent low post defender and he often prevents shot blockers from entering the paint because of his midrange jumper. That doesn?t seem like little production to me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You're on the right track with Donyell or Chandler (preferably Chandler, but no can do), but go one step further. For Steph's numbers and attitude (in a trade, mind you), go young and go small. You need some perimeter defense, and you need some rebounding from your middle man. A three with some board work would be a plus [(I'm thinking Gooden) and as a three not a four], and don't sign any more fours, they don't help you any more than your current half dozen of them.</div>
Our middle man is 7th in the NBA in rebounds per game and averages a double-double? He?s a bad rebounder? Yes, we can use some defense, and hopefully our draft pick can provide that. What do you mean by Steph?s attitude? A good reason why we got those power forwards was because Rose gave us two 1st rounders, experience, and defense, and Taylor gave us a player to expire along with Houston. And btw, this horrible rebounder in Kurt Thomas actually sparked some conversation between the Cavs and Knicks about Drew Gooden and Ira Newble.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So yeah, ditch everything, start again, certainly nowhere near as easy as it sounds, but for this New York squad, there are very few other options.</div>
Well the contracts are coming off the book like crazy every year from next to 4 or 5 years from now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A little talent would be a good thing too, but hey, who's counting?
And yes, there is no salvation for the Knick's cap, it will be over, pretty much no matter what they do with it, but that's only for another three or four seasons if Isiah has a brain in his head.
And he doesn't.
Oh well.</div>
So wouldn?t time be it?s salvation??? Isiah already said he was trying to get them out of the cap too.
I'm sorry but I had to laugh. "You're not going to shell out $60 mil for a player to come off the bench for you." We're talking about the Knicks here! We give out big bucks to our role players who dont get more than 10 minutes a game. Why wouldnt we dish out 60 million dollars to our sixth man?? If Houston had been healthy Crawford would have definetely been coming off the bench for the very reasons you mentioned above.(bad shot selection, inconsistency, etc...). You cant have a starting shooting guard with those kinds of issues. Houston starting at the small forward was an interesting thought but was dropped because of the defensive problems it would have caused. Crawford was brought over to provide a spark off the bench(like Bobby Jackson is for the Kings), as insurance if Houston wasnt healthy and when he got older and more mature to one day replace Houston. But it was pretty much a fact that Crawford was going to come off the bench. The only people who thought Crawford was going to start were the people who make basketball videogames.
