<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nowhere did Marbury say he supported dogfighting. He simply said "From what I hear, it's a sport" - just like cockfighting, which is still legal in Louisiana (it probably will get banned within a year or so, but as of now, it isn't).</div>
You misunderstood. I never said Marbury supported it, Vick does. If he didn't, he wouldn't exactly be betting on it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Similarly to killing dogs, people kill other animals and by eating products such as pork we are supporting the abuse which goes on in that industry. </div>
Not all pigs/cows are treated as unfairly as what is almost always depicted in the media.
If you're going on about this, then I can say the same thing about vegetarians and people with vegan diets.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Vegan diets are not bloodless diets," Davis said. "Millions of animals die every year to provide products used in vegan diets."
Few studies document the losses of rabbits, mice, pheasants, snakes and other field animals in planting and harvesting crops. Said one researcher: "Because most of these animals have been seen as expendable, or not seen at all, few scientific studies have been done measuring agriculture's effects on their populations."
Davis has found evidence that suggests that the unseen losses of field animals are very high. One study documented that a single operation, mowing alfalfa, caused a 50 percent reduction in the gray-tailed vole population. Mortality rates increase with every pass of the tractor to plow, plant, and harvest. Additions of herbicides and pesticides cause additional harm to animals of the field.
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Are vegans supporters of the 'abuse' that goes on when a rabbit accidently gets caught in a harvester? When their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, or their bones crushed?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post"> I think the whole hunting within season is a lame excuse for hunters to kill animals for the sport. Really, do people genuinely care about these animals? In many cases the ecosystem's imbalance is a direct result of some human activity (deforestation, wetland destruction, etc.) and now all of a sudden we want to help the situation by killing more animals?
Similarly to killing dogs, people kill other animals and by eating products such as pork we are supporting the abuse which goes on in that industry. I think the whole hunting within season is a lame excuse for hunters to kill animals for the sport. Really, do people genuinely care about these animals? In many cases the ecosystem's imbalance is a direct result of some human activity (deforestation, wetland destruction, etc.) and now all of a sudden we want to help the situation by killing more animals? </div>
I never agreed with the morality of it in the first place. Hunting as a sport is a pretty iffy subject at best. I see it as useless myself. Regardless, it's used as a cheap population control method for animals. Like I said, if you're looking at it from a moral stand point, would you rather a species starve because it became overpopulated, and exhausted it's food source? Would you rather that animal have it's neck torn out by a predator, for it to bleed to death slowly and painfully?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">If a herbivore didn't have a predator in a particular environment, you can always get some from another environment (preferably one that is overpopulated) and let them regulate the population of that herbivore. Trust me, there are other alternatives. </div>
Lol. That's better? Instead of taking those animals out ourselves, and using them for food, fur, or any other use, we should introduce a predator into their environment to kill them instead? It's essentially the same thing. Them dying by our hands, and a predator's hand is no different.
Also randomly introducing a predator into an unknown ecosystem is a very, very bad idea.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Besides, if a species population is declining, it could very well mean that the particular specie isn't suited to live in its environment and should therefore naturally go extinct. It's just like Charles Darwin's theory suggests: "Survival of the Fittest".</div>
As way back as the Ice Age, cavemen, and Lucy, we have been a factor in the food chain. Believe it or not, we are a predator keeping that population in check. It isn't like this type of regulation by humans is something entirely new.