Steve Nash: Trade to Portland would be a "terrific situation"

[Natebishop3]

Because I would rather have Nash than Felton. What do you think?

And the assists all coming from Phoenix is crazy talk. His prime years were in Phoenix! That's like comparing Jermaine Oneal saying he isn't good because his good years were in Indiana. LOL

You won't have Felton after this year, so it's a non-issue. After this season, there's a good chance that Felton, Wallace, Crawford, and Camby will all be gone.

 

[magnifier661]

You won't have Felton after this year, so it's a non-issue. After this season, there's a good chance that Felton, Wallace, Crawford, and Camby will all be gone.

Then 10 mil means nothing! Felton is making 7.8 mil; so why worry? You take away Felton and Crawford, and that equals less than Nash's going rate. Do you think Nash is worth more than Felton and Crawford?

 

[Natebishop3]

Then 10 mil means nothing! Felton is making 7.8 mil; so why worry? You take away Felton and Crawford, and that equals less than Nash's going rate. Do you think Nash is worth more than Felton and Crawford?

I think the 14 million in available cap space is worth more than Felton, Crawford, and 38 year old Steve Nash.

I think a max contract in the NBA is 14.5 million per year. If we let all our free agents walk we can almost have enough free space to offer two max contracts this summer. That's an extremely valuable commodity.

 

[magnifier661]

I think the 14 million in available cap space is worth more than Felton, Crawford, and 38 year old Steve Nash.

I think a max contract in the NBA is 14.5 million per year. If we let all our free agents walk we can almost have enough free space to offer two max contracts this summer. That's an extremely valuable commodity.

Christ who are we going to get for a max contract? Deron Williams? Dude that's a pipe dream. Howard? Yeah no chance on that. The other free agents available aren't worth max other than those two.

 

[Natebishop3]

Christ who are we going to get for a max contract? Deron Williams? Dude that's a pipe dream. Howard? Yeah no chance on that. The other free agents available aren't worth max other than those two.

I think Deron Williams is much more attainable than you might think. Dwight would never happen. I'm not sure who else is available, but I would make a serious push for Deron Williams. And if that doesn't work out, the cap space can be used to make lopsided trades.

 

[Brock]

Stein: Blazers "Trying Hard" To Trade For Suns G Steve Nash
Marc Stein of ESPN.com reports that the Portland Trail Blazers are "trying hard" to trade for Phoenix Suns All-Star guard Steve Nash and have been pursuing him "for a while."
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Said another: "Because of his age and because he can leave in the summer, offers for Nash haven't been as star-laden as you'd think."

Yet even if the Blazers were willing to include the widely coveted Nicolas Batum in a package for Nash -- which is a matter of debate depending on who's doing the gossiping -- sources say Phoenix continues to put out the message that it won't deal Nash unless Nash asks to be traded. Which is something Nash has consistently said he won't do.

 

[blazerboy30]

So you'd prefer to not make it out of the first round for the next 10 years as long as you keep Batum? Really? You'd prefer 10 years of no playoffs?

That wasn't the original question. Now you've built a strawman.

a) 10 years of making the playoffs, with a very low probability of winning the title and likely 1st round exits
b) make the finals this year and miss the playoffs for the following 9 years.

I'll take (a) every time.

 

[RR7]

That wasn't the original question. Now you've built a strawman.

a) 10 years of making the playoffs, with a very low probability of winning the title and likely 1st round exits
b) make the finals this year and miss the playoffs for the following 9 years.

I'll take (a) every time.

Actually, it was the original statement:

I will take one WCF this year over no playoffs/out in first round over the next 10 years.

 

[Masbee]

And he averaged roughly 2 more asissts per game in Phoenix. What's your point?

If you look at his stats, he put up better numbers in Phoenix under a different system.

D'antoni's unique system certainly was a factor.

But, one just as large in many commenters views (mine included) is the difference between Amare (in Phoenix) and Dirk.

Amare was one of the best pick and roll PF's in a long time, and the way he played the pick and roll with Nash maximized assists numbers because Nash waiting to deliver the pass until Amare was close to the hoop and Amare finished strong most of the time. Scorekeepers always give that an assist.

Dirk is much slower and often makes moves and jukes, etc. And in Dallas many many plays for Dirk are iso plays. No assist for the PG.

Jason Kidd's assist numbers and assist percentages are down since going to Dallas, and he never ran SSOL.

 

[Carlito]

They aren't trading Nash!

 

[Natebishop3]

D'antoni's unique system certainly was a factor.

But, one just as large in many commenters views (mine included) is the difference between Amare (in Phoenix) and Dirk.

Amare was one of the best pick and roll PF's in a long time, and the way he played the pick and roll with Nash maximized assists numbers because Nash waiting to deliver the pass until Amare was close to the hoop and Amare finished strong most of the time. Scorekeepers always give that an assist.

Dirk is much slower and often makes moves and jukes, etc. And in Dallas many many plays for Dirk are iso plays. No assist for the PG.

Jason Kidd's assist numbers and assist percentages are down since going to Dallas, and he never ran SSOL.

You never did explain where that rant about "winning" came from...

 

[blazerboy30]

Actually, it was the original statement:

Yes. "out in first round" is similar to "very low probability of winning the title"

The "no playoffs" part of the statement actually has no merit and isn't worth discussing.

 

[Masbee]

Funny enough, Cuban has a ring now and Nash doesn't.

"ring" = "winning".

You brought out the Ring Card. I assumed you were trying to imply/say Cuban was right for dumping Nash for a mediocre 7 footer; that Nash isn't really all that; that Nash isn't about winning the big prize; that Nash isn't a piece that is about winning.

If I was wrong, correct it now.

 

[KingSpeed]

BREAKING NEWS: Blazers actively pursuing Steve Nash

http://www.iamatrailblazersfan.com/...d/158/aff/488/aft/4287/afv/topic/Default.aspx

I'm so excited!!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Yes he is as long as we don't give up Batum.

But that's the rub. What else in God's name do we have that can generate enough interest from the Suns to actually trade Nash -- the face of their franchise. Everybody keeps talking about sending expiring contracts or complete garbage to Phoenix as if that's the best offer they'll get (for a player that isn't likely to ask for a trade and a team that doesn't seem all that inclined to trade him otherwise).

 

[KingSpeed]

I think Nash might ask to be traded to Portland and that's why they will do it. Kind of like when we traded Drexler for Otis Thorpe.

 

[craigehlo]

If we can take a bad contract off their hands like Josh Childress, I wonder if that would be enough? Felton/Wallace for Nash/Childress works under the cap.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

He won't be cheap:

The Orlando Magic has made offers for Nash in the past and sources close to the situation say that they’ll attempt to acquire the 16-year veteran in the next two weeks. Dwight Howard has asked the front office to pursue Nash and sources close to Howard believe he won’t exercise his early termination option if the team is able to acquire Nash and re-sign him this summer

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think Nash might ask to be traded to Portland and that's why they will do it. Kind of like when we traded Drexler for Otis Thorpe.

Why?

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

BREAKING NEWS: Blazers actively pursuing Steve Nash

http://www.iamatrailblazersfan.com/...d/158/aff/488/aft/4287/afv/topic/Default.aspx

I'm so excited!!

Looks like that guy reads hoopshype.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Why?

Well he sort of has ties to the NW through the soccer team he owns in Canada and said he likes the NW. Hw also did give LA a bro handshake. Stretching?

 

[magnifier661]

Why?

He has a great opportunity here feeding Aldridge. And believe it or not most players love it here.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Why?

He'd save a fortune on sunscreen!

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

He has a great opportunity here feeding Aldridge. And believe it or not most players love it here.

But who in the hell has ever forced a trade here and what special connection does he have with Aldridge to make him do this? (and no, saying that LA and Nash having a picture taken of them together at the all-star game does not qualify as a reason).

 

[magnifier661]

But who in the hell has ever forced a trade here and what special connection does he have with Aldridge to make him do this? (and no, saying that LA and Nash having a picture taken of them together at the all-star game does not qualify as a reason).

Pippen asked to be traded to Portland. Just sayin

 

[Minstrel]

Pippen asked to be traded to Portland. Just sayin

I don't recall ever hearing that. Do you have a link? My recollection was that he had interest in going to the Lakers, to re-unite with Phil Jackson, and Jackson and West had interest in him, but Buss didn't want to add his salary.

 

[Boob-No-More]

But who in the hell has ever forced a trade here and what special connection does he have with Aldridge to make him do this? (and no, saying that LA and Nash having a picture taken of them together at the all-star game does not qualify as a reason).

Hey, I also have a photo of me and Nash taken at the RG a couple years ago. So, there's that special connection...

BNM

 

[KingSpeed]

Because I would rather have Nash than Felton. What do you think?

And the assists all coming from Phoenix is crazy talk. His prime years were in Phoenix! That's like comparing Jermaine Oneal saying he isn't good because his good years were in Indiana. LOL

Exactly.

I think the 14 million in available cap space is worth more than Felton, Crawford, and 38 year old Steve Nash.

I think a max contract in the NBA is 14.5 million per year. If we let all our free agents walk we can almost have enough free space to offer two max contracts this summer. That's an extremely valuable commodity.

Who out the are we getting for a max contract??

I think Deron Williams is much more attainable than you might think. Dwight would never happen. I'm not sure who else is available, but I would make a serious push for Deron Williams. And if that doesn't work out, the cap space can be used to make lopsided trades.

He's going to Dallas.

That wasn't the original question. Now you've built a strawman.

a) 10 years of making the playoffs, with a very low probability of winning the title and likely 1st round exits
b) make the finals this year and miss the playoffs for the following 9 years.

I'll take (a) every time.

WRONG. I was the one who asked the question! Read it again. Don't rephrase it yourself. I never said we'd miss the playoffs the next 9 years. That wasn't part of the question.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Just because Nash was born in South Africa doesn't mean we have to turn this thread into a racist argument.

 

[magnifier661]

I don't recall ever hearing that. Do you have a link? My recollection was that he had interest in going to the Lakers, to re-unite with Phil Jackson, and Jackson and West had interest in him, but Buss didn't want to add his salary.

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/oct/05/sports/sp-19084

"This is a great fit for me," Pippen said. "If I had my choice, I would probably choose this team because I feel like they're more on the verge of winning a championship."

He also asked to be traded here:

"Don't read anything into that," Sexton said of Pippen's silence. "After Scottie evaluated the situation in Portland, looked at their roster, what they did last year and the pieces they've added, he was excited. They'll have a legitimate chance to win the NBA championship."