Still believe that old BS that feminists have no sense of humor?

[crandc]

Courtesy of the National Organization for Women, Tits for an Ass

 

[HailBlazers]

An exception doesn't break the rule ...

 

[crandc]

I'll say that next time a man says something intelligent...

 

[HailBlazers]

ohhh snap

 

[Wheels]

I'll say that next time a man says something intelligent...

sexist!!!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Being an unintelligent male, I don't see what was so reprehensible about Alan Simpson's letter. Could someone explain this to me?

 

[BGrantFan]

Courtesy of the National Organization for Women, Tits for an Ass

Your post illustrates that NOLW doesn't have a sense of humor. Help me out here? How is this offensive?

Simpson, the one-time Republican senator and now a co-chairman of the commission, got in some trouble this summer when, in an e-mail about Social Security to an official from the Older Women's League, used an old H.L. Mencken line to describe the government as "a milk cow with 310 million tits."

Is NOLW (National Organization for Liberal Women) advancing the idea that women are cows? I guess that is unintentionally funny, at best, or insulting to women, at worst. Or is this a mistake, and it is actual the National Organization for Cows that is upset?

 

[crandc]

Platypus, I'd suggest you go back to the original story.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Platypus, I'd suggest you go back to the original story.

OK--in the link you provided, the line "a milk cow with 310 million tits" hyperlinked to the Washington Post's September 5th, article (editorial) about the remarks. Having read it, I still don't understand how anything he said was resignation-worthy. Can you please provide me with your perspective as to why his remarks are considered so offensive?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Courtesy of the National Organization for Women, Tits for an Ass

Well, after reading the article I'd still say NOW has no sense of humor or respect.

Nothing new in this world, is there?

People in a 100% self serving special interest group that all too frequently ignores the needs of those they claim to be for if they are not of their political persuasion again making ASSumptions (sorry, couldn't help myself) and again missing the mark.

This is why the vast vast majority of special interest groups, lefty or righty, fail.

Kudos to cradc for pointing it out. Rep'd!

 

[BGrantFan]

OK--in the link you provided, the line "a milk cow with 310 million tits" hyperlinked to the Washington Post's September 5th, article (editorial) about the remarks. Having read it, I still don't understand how anything he said was resignation-worthy. Can you please provide me with your perspective as to why his remarks are considered so offensive?

No, she can't, but feminists are obvious HIIIIIII-larious. Seems to me that Simpson was merely quoting an author's view of the government.

 

[crandc]

Ok. Simpson is co-chair of the commission on Social Security. He had suggested that either benefits be reduced or the retirement age raised. This is not new for him; Simpson has been hostile to Social Security for some time. The executive director of the Older Women's League wrote to him on behalf of the organization. She explained that either cutting benefits or raising the retirement age would have especially devastating consequences for many older women. She explained how women generally receive lower benefits than men, since women have been and still are paid less and are more likely to lose work years in child rearing, and how women are less likely than men to receive private pensions, 401(k), etc. from their workplace. That older women have an even harder time than older men trying to return to the workforce. She also questioned whether it was necessary to reduce benefits/raise retirement age.

So, she wrote a serious letter on a serious subject.

Simpson could have disagreed and written a courteous letter explaining why he disagreed. Instead he wrote a very rude letter, suggesting she was incapable of understanding the math, saying that seniors using Social Security are essentially freeloaders (that's where the milk cow with 310 million tits came from), used derogatory language, and finally suggested the members of her group should just go out and get jobs - because in a recession companies are dying to hire 70 year old ladies. He refused to respond to subsequent attempts by the Older Women's League to meet with him to raise their concerns.

So that's the genesis of the story. The group and others called for his resignation, not simply because they agreed, but because of his rude and offensive behavior to a genuine concern of citizens and his refusal to even discuss the matter.

 

[BrianFromWA]

There's never a time to be rude, but if congressmen resigned for being rude we'd have about 3 senators and 4 representatives right now.

As for the Social Security aspect, I didn't see a willingness on the part of the detractors (from the article, the editorial or what you just wrote) to attempt to debate the issue. Amazingly enough, do you think that the co-Chairman of the Social Security committee might have some semblance of an idea of the problems affecting Social Security? One of which is that THIS YEAR it's almost 40% overrunning its budget? I didn't hear a single one say "that sounds like a good plan...maybe you could put some protection in for people who are already past prime earning years" or anything like that. It became "nanny-nanny, this guy's a meany so we'll twist "Teats" and "boob (fool)" into sexual innuendo and call for his resignation." Classy move from a bunch of concerned ladies and an editorialist.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Ok. Simpson is co-chair of the commission on Social Security. He had suggested that either benefits be reduced or the retirement age raised. This is not new for him; Simpson has been hostile to Social Security for some time. The executive director of the Older Women's League wrote to him on behalf of the organization. She explained that either cutting benefits or raising the retirement age would have especially devastating consequences for many older women. She explained how women generally receive lower benefits than men, since women have been and still are paid less and are more likely to lose work years in child rearing, and how women are less likely than men to receive private pensions, 401(k), etc. from their workplace. That older women have an even harder time than older men trying to return to the workforce. She also questioned whether it was necessary to reduce benefits/raise retirement age.

So, she wrote a serious letter on a serious subject.

Simpson could have disagreed and written a courteous letter explaining why he disagreed. Instead he wrote a very rude letter, suggesting she was incapable of understanding the math, saying that seniors using Social Security are essentially freeloaders (that's where the milk cow with 310 million tits came from), used derogatory language, and finally suggested the members of her group should just go out and get jobs - because in a recession companies are dying to hire 70 year old ladies. He refused to respond to subsequent attempts by the Older Women's League to meet with him to raise their concerns.

So that's the genesis of the story. The group and others called for his resignation, not simply because they agreed, but because of his rude and offensive behavior to a genuine concern of citizens and his refusal to even discuss the matter.

Interesting--thank you for the additional information.

It certainly appears the media has done NOW a disservice by ridiculously oversimplifying the story to nothing more than a splashy headline. Based on the most readily-publicized information, the stories make NOW look petty; only if one were to have the inclination to dig into the details (which you have kindly provided us) does one get a better picture of the true events. I've got to say though, while the 1,500 nipple delivery was a creative way to get an audience with Simpson, it did seem to put more emphasis on the single quote than on the crux of the issue.

Out of curiosity, do you think that NOW's efforts here had an overall beneficial impact on this particular cause?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

...I didn't hear a single one say "that sounds like a good plan...maybe you could put some protection in for people who are already past prime earning years" or anything like that. It became "nanny-nanny, this guy's a meany so we'll twist "Teats" and "boob (fool)" into sexual innuendo and call for his resignation." Classy move from a bunch of concerned ladies and an editorialist.

Actually, the editorialist is firmly on Simpson's side here (at least he certainly was in the other editorial I linked to from 9/5). I think he was just poking fun at the coincidental word choice.

 

[BGrantFan]

Harry Reid called Kirsten Gillibrand the "hottest member of the Senate" last week.

I must have missed NOLW's outrage over that sexist comment. Gee, I wonder why?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sen_reid_calls_sen_gillibrand_senate_nMGvwH9D35aucEqefNKeZN

Voters now know a thing or two about Sen. Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) type -- the Senate majority leader, speaking at a fundraiser Monday, reportedly called Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) "the hottest member," in front of a crowd that included the blonde mother of two, FOXNews.com reported Tuesday.

According to Politico, the remark caused Gillibrand to blush and surprised those in the audience.

Reid apparently was explaining that senators are known for "many things," but that Gillibrand has a reputation as a Capitol Hill hottie.

"We in the Senate refer to Senator Gillibrand as the hottest member," he said. Plus, she knows securities law, he added.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nation...d_senate_nMGvwH9D35aucEqefNKeZN#ixzz112vmEmR6

 

[BrianFromWA]

Shame on Fox news for describing her as a "mother of two", rather than focusing on her securities law expertise. I didn't see them say "Father of four Harry Reid"...

 

[Mediocre Man]

If they had a sense of humor that wouldn't have come up with this campaign in the first place.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Harry Reid called Kirsten Gillibrand the "hottest member of the Senate" last week.

I must have missed NOLW's outrage over that sexist comment. Gee, I wonder why?

NOW never attacks their own- no matter what they may do. It's like when the ACLU was asked to represent a graduate from a Christian HS who was denied admission to a college (or maybe it was a specific degree program) due to his faith. The ACLU was very clear they do not assist those who may appear to be on the 'right' or of Christian faith. Both are 100% self serving for their side of the isle only. It's disingenuous. But, special interest groupls on the right do the same thing.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Harry Reid called Kirsten Gillibrand the "hottest member of the Senate" last week.

I just did an image google for her. Harry was right- she is pretty hot for a US Senator. I wonder if she's a cougar. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............

 

[barfo]

It's like when the ACLU was asked to represent a graduate from a Christian HS who was denied admission to a college (or maybe it was a specific degree program) due to his faith. The ACLU was very clear they do not assist those who may appear to be on the 'right' or of Christian faith. Both are 100% self serving for their side of the isle only. It's disingenuous.

Something here is disingenuous.

The ACLU fights just as hard for INDIVIDUAL free exercise of religion as the ACLU fights against GOVERNMENT endorsement, sponsorship, or establishment of religion. Despite this fact, many people spread misinformation about the ACLU around the internet, innocently and maliciously, falsely claiming the ACLU is anti-religion or anti-Christian.

This list of FACTS counteracts that misinformation. These links represent just a few of the many examples of the ACLU defending the free speech and free exercise rights of Christians (for purposes of this list, the word “Christian” means a person who self-identifies as “Christian”).

In every example, the ACLU is defending the right of a Christian to speak as a Christian or to practice Christianity.

links

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

NOW considers animals to be women?

Any animal that has more than two teets is likely to be a pig or a cow or something like that, and that's the allusion that Alan Simpson was making. If anything was derogatory, it would be toward the people sucking off those teets.

 

[crandc]

Actually, a lot of women's groups and feminist blogs (I'm not sure about NOW but of course the poster can verify) slammed Reid for his sexist comment on Gillebrand. See Feministng for example.

As for whether or not the protest did good, time will tell.

 

[Denny Crane]

Actually, a lot of women's groups and feminist blogs (I'm not sure about NOW but of course the poster can verify) slammed Reid for his sexist comment on Gillebrand. See Feministng for example.

As for whether or not the protest did good, time will tell.

I read the link and didn't laugh. Where's the sense of humor?

 

[MARIS61]

Simpson, a total ass for sure, called ALL Americans of both sexes (and those who have transformed themselves through surgery) cows. He didn't single out women in any way shape or form. There are not 310 million women on SS, there are 310 citizens of both sexes on SS. Men have tits, they're just (usually) not as prominent or impressive as women's in a visual appreciation sense (apologies to ABM).

Aside from being blatantly sexist and self-absorbed as usual, NOW made an ass out of themselves in a big way by this childish display and blew a chance to have serious input in the debate. Unlike Billie Jean King, they just got handed THEIR ass by a pompous old fart.

 

[bodyman5001]

Yes.