Stop the Dame bashing

[sheed30]

What I understand after reading everything, Dame was given a list of candidates and he said which ones he liked the most, Kidd and Billups.

He WAS NOT the one to come out and suggest those two, he picked those two out of all the candidates the Blazers presented him.

He said he didn't know about Billups past and I believe him. I am older than Dame, a die hard Blazer and NBA fan for over 20 years and never heard of this Billups rape case until last week. How many didn't know about it either until just last week?

So let's stop this Dame bashing shit man, media is spinning it like he endorsed him from the start and he is supporting someone with a rape past.

Someone as loyal as Dame, who has been the loyalist superstar the Blazers have ever seen and is ok playing in an small market, I could see how he could get pissed at the backlash, finger pointing and people bashing him.

You got some here calling him a fraud now and a bunch of unnecessary bullshit.

The ones doing that, should really be ashamed of themselves.

Let's not fuck this up anymore than a small bag of sour ass fans have done.

 

[crandc]

Never will I bash Dame as long as he is a Blazer.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Bashing Dame is just insane. He's the best thing we have going and has done absolutely nothing wrong.

He is a model player and person.

 

[Cugel]

Social media is not sane. As hank bukowski would lament it's"the genius of the crowd".

 

[All Net]

Well, Lillard did sit in on one of the interviews with Billups, and has been in contact with him during the hiring process. It’s not unreasonable to expect Lillard to do some homework on his guy and know about his past.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Well, Lillard did sit in on one of the interviews with Billups, and has been in contact with him during the hiring process. It’s not unreasonable to expect Lillard to do some homework on his guy and know about his past.

Yes, actually, it is incredibly unreasonable. That's not Dame's job. Sitting in on an interview to see how the conversation went doesn't require anything more than being there. It's the responsibility of the front office to do the background search and know how the results will mesh with the local pulse of the city.

It's their job to make him aware. It's their job to prepare Dame for any backlash he might receive. It's their job to make sure they are out in front of this and taking the heat of this hire rather than leaking the news on Friday during a playoff game and forcing the players to deal with the fallout all weekend.

This has been handled incredibly poorly by Olshey.

 

[All Net]

Lillard is the leader of the team. He can’t play that role and then back away from it in off-court matters. If he really cares about Portland and the image of the Blazers, he has to know what he’s doing when he gives his approval to a head coach candidate.

 

[blazedanugz]

The only thing that bothers me about Dame right now is..
- report that dame sat in the interview
- report dame has not been involved in the hiring process at all

which one is it?

 

[BigGameDamian]

Bashing Dame is just insane. He's the best thing we have going and has done absolutely nothing wrong.


He is a model player and person.

Your right but if Dame or any other member(s) of this team is going to be apart of the interview process they should have done there homework on the guy the team is hiring. Even model player/person have goof ups.

 

[riverman]

Lillard is the leader of the team. He can’t play that role and then back away from it in off-court matters. If he really cares about Portland and the image of the Blazers, he has to know what he’s doing when he gives his approval to a head coach candidate.

I've never seen Dame "play a role" on court or off court....I think this is pure sensationalism and fishing for drama..it's the media that's "playing a role" when it comes to Dame....and I promise you Chauncey has been on the phone with Dame throughout this process...probably since he was offered an interview. All this other bullshit is just throwing shit on a wall and seeing what sticks. Dame did not make a mistake endorsing Billups....Dame wants to get to the next level and Chauncey on paper fills the gap that the team is mired in right now. I'm also sure that the vetting team Neil put together has filled Dame in on their findings and that today he's completely informed about the checks and balances.

 

[sheed30]

Well, Lillard did sit in on one of the interviews with Billups, and has been in contact with him during the hiring process. It’s not unreasonable to expect Lillard to do some homework on his guy and know about his past.

My 2 cents is he didn't know about Billups past at the start, just like I didn't know like many others and whenever he was informed about it, him like the Blazers did their homework and came to the conclusion he wasn't charged of anything and have faith and trust in Billups going forward.

Just like the Clippers did before they hired him, before ESPN hired him, before the Cavs offered him the GM spot.

You can then say, Dame may not knew about Billups past but he could have known about Kidd's past, and still endorsed him.

That's a different topic though. If we hired Kidd, I could understand the uproar a lot more, he was charged, he was guilt etc. Billups was not, huge difference.

 

[All Net]

If we hired Kidd, I could understand the uproar a lot more, he was charged, he was guilt etc. Billups was not, huge difference.

It’s not clear that Billups was innocent. He paid the woman to shut up and she did. Have you seen the medical report on the woman? It’s not pretty.

 

[tykendo]

The majority of Blazer Fans aren't bashing Dame, but in this era of Social Media empowering the Loud, obnoxious, hateful, and bulling personality to have a platform to spew their diatribe. It's happening in every form of life. No matter what you like , or follow, their is always someone there to belittle you, or mock you in some way. The only solution is to turn it off. The problem is , most of us are glutton's for punishment. Dame , who thrives on proving people wrong about his abilities does open himself up to this by reading every, or at least a lot of these messages, as others have stated already. That being said, the attacks that are made via Social Media go way below human decency. It's sad, but a sign of the times we live in. I think Dame is hurt by these allegations, and rightfully so. But they DO NOT represent the majority of the way we feel about him. Now ,as a fan base, us Blazer Fans are on thin ice with the prospect of losing our favorite, generational player. It's like we have no voice. The grass isn't always greener, but when your ears are filled with how bad a situation, or place, is, you start to hear the noise, and sometimes start believing that maybe a change is best. I think Dame, Alpha Dog, His own man, will see above the B.S. I think change will come to the roster, and with a new voice leading the charge, help fulfill what Dame wants to accomplish. Joining another team and being viewed as riding the coattails of another talent is not Dame. And believe me, that same Media that is pushing the leave agenda, will say that he was a nice Robin to some other team's Batman. Dame ain't Batman, he's SUPERMAN.

 

[All Net]

The attacks that are made via Social Media go way below human decency.

Are you saying this is true of the attacks made on Lillard? What are fans saying about him?

 

[tykendo]

Are you saying this is true of the attacks made on Lillard? What are fans saying about him?

Yes. When you attack a man's integrity, and personal life ,it's below human decency.

 

[riverman]

It’s not clear that Billups was innocent. He paid the woman to shut up and she did. Have you seen the medical report on the woman? It’s not pretty.

that report is about what happened by Antoine Walker's roommates...Chauncey is guilty only of driving her to their house and leaving her there after she performed oral sex on him in his car....everything I read says Chauncey didn't choke her or sodomize her but people he knew did.....his guilt is by association...people need to stop looking at Chauncey as a violent abuser in this case...he wasn't according to everything I've read...he did endanger her by leaving her in an environment where she was abused. This case is closed...move on. Turns out it was a very expensive blow job

 

[Chris Craig]

The people bashing him on social media probably aren't even Blazers fans for the most part.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It’s not clear that Billups was innocent. He paid the woman to shut up and she did. Have you seen the medical report on the woman? It’s not pretty.

Its not clear he was guilty either though!

here is the thing…

Both the victim and the accused aRe adults. They both signed an agreement.
They both agreed to this agreement. At that point its their private business and no one elses.

people should really stop sticking their nose into other peoples lives with this moral superiority complex they want to exercise authority with, when both parties agreed to terms and moved on.

Ill say it again. Both parties agreed to terms and moved on!!!

funny how many others who don't know the facts, cant see that and just move on themselves, leaving their judgments behind….


People be more up in arms about this than the parties involved. Just shows how little people pay attention to themselves vs how much they worry/pay attention to others.


Many many people would be better off using that energy to focus on themselves vs focusing it on two people who agreed to terms 20 years ago…


But. You know.. everyone has their own right to prioritize how they like, what they spend their energy on….

 

[Pinwheel1]

that report is about what happened by Antoine Walker's roommates...Chauncey is guilty only of driving her to their house and leaving her there after she performed oral sex on him in his car....everything I read says Chauncey didn't choke her or sodomize her but people he knew did.....his guilt is by association...people need to stop looking at Chauncey as a violent abuser in this case...he wasn't according to everything I've read...he did endanger her by leaving her in an environment where she was abused. This case is closed...move on. Turns out it was a very expensive blow job

Plus the fact the woman was Walker's "on-again, off-again girlfriend" at the time. So dropping her off at his house would not have been considered dangerous.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Your right but if Dame or any other member(s) of this team is going to be apart of the interview process they should have done there homework on the guy the team is hiring. Even model player/person have goof ups.

We don't want Dame doing background checks or homework on coaches. that's a waste of his time. We need our front office to do that.
THAT'S THEIR JOB. It is literally what they get paid to do.

 

[BigGameDamian]

We don't want Dame doing background checks or homework on coaches. that's a waste of his time. We need our front office to do that.
THAT'S THEIR JOB. It is literally what they get paid to do.

Then don't have him in the interview process. In any event this is on Neil and the front office. I'm just saying anyone in the interview process should have done more homework and listened more.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Then don't have him in the interview process. In any event this is on Neil and the front office. I'm just saying anyone in the interview process should have done more homework and listened more.

He's involved in the interview so he doesn't have any questions about what was said. They have him there in the effort to be 100% transparent with him so he is comfortable with the basketball side of things.

It's not to make him in charge of background checks and PR.

 

[tester551]

Then don't have him in the interview process. In any event this is on Neil and the front office. I'm just saying anyone in the interview process should have done more homework and listened more.

Apparently you haven't had much experience interviewing others for jobs.
Tasks like background checks get delegated to 1 or 2 individuals. If it comes up satisfactory - you move on.

If there is one 'should have' in this whole situation - it's the fans who 'should have' minded their own business.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The people bashing him on social media probably aren't even Blazers fans for the most part.

"Dame sucks ass as a human being... so for 2 2nd rounders + 2 overpaid dorks who are wrecking our salary cap, you should trade him to my favorite team."

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I probably need to step away for a while, but I am starting to get really annoyed at.... Becky Hammon. Her twitter is silent.

She should have told the SJW crowd to back off Lillard, who has openly supported women
https://clutchpoints.com/blazers-news-damian-lillard-thinks-wnba-players-should-get-paid-more/

and Becky in particular:
https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/...an-lillard-gives-high-praise-for-becky-hammon

This is just 2 occasions off the top of my head, I'm sure there are others.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Then don't have him in the interview process. In any event this is on Neil and the front office. I'm just saying anyone in the interview process should have done more homework and listened more.

BGD thats not fair though.

we have our production manager in on every interview for every canditate to work for us. He never knows the personal history. Only the work history. The personal history (criminal past, etc) is the job of HR.

Dame was there for on the court and locker room analysis. As well as personality fit for him.
Not for him to be there to question the validity of the accusation and certainly should not be getting himself educated on the situation.

This is all in NO. Nothing on dame. Regardless of what @Natebishop3 thinks.

 

[Blazerreynolds]

It begins.....

The beginning of the media heel Dame Lillard turn.....

Once he leaves Portland, watch he became public enemy number one.

I am not gonna play couch Judge, if the case was settled, no need to keep going to the well.

If not, then he should be in jail. he is not, lets keep it moving.

 

[wizenheimer]

I just can't believe that so many people, after 9 years, remain blind to Olshey's SOP. He always gives himself cover. He made a point of saying Dame was going to be involved, had Dame in for the interview of Billups, hired Billups who was the guy he wanted from the beginning (I'm convinced the rest of the coaching search was fake), and lookee here...who is getting blamed by some for the Billups hire...? is it the GM, no, apparently it's the player that really doesn't have any say.

 

[Jon]

The reddit sub is going full on cancel culture on Dame and Chauncey.

Seriously disgusting.

I will never... NEVER bash him. IMO, he is the greatest Blazer of all time. He even got my wife to be a fan of the Blazers and she hated basketball. It seriously pisses me off to see ANYONE bash him. Especially right now.

 

[Natebishop3]

Regardless of what @Natebishop3 thinks.

I'm an evil man.