Subway Series 2006 Part 1

[AdropOFvenom]

Figured this series between the Mets and Yankees deserved its own thread.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Enjoy the rideMets, Yanks could be on course for World Series showdownBY KEN DAVIDOFFNewsday Staff WriterMay 19, 2006Year 10 of interleague play kicks off tonight, with no matchup more responsible for the concept's success than our own Subway Series.At Shea Stadium, the Mets and Yankees will face off for the 49th time in regular-season play, with the Yankees holding a comfortable, all-time edge of 29-19.But this year, finally, it feels as though the Mets and Yankees are operating on an even plane. It's partly the product of another Mets offseason featuring huge trades and huge expenditures, partly the birth of SNY. Primarily, the blend of those realities creates a perception: Just like the Yankees, the Mets are now operating seriously to win it all.With baseball more popular than ever in New York, with the stakes so high, it's the perfect time to line up these mirroring franchises and compare their most important assets.The IconsDavid Wright vs. Derek JeterThere is still a gargantuan gap in payroll between these two clubs, with the Mets at about $101 million and the Yankees at $195 million, and no matchup better illustrates this than Jeter (who will earn over $20 million this season) and Wright (who will make $374,000). Wright sure looks like a keeper, doesn't he? But come on. Jeter already has enough career highlights to fill an entire collectible DVD set, and a monster weekend could produce his 2,000th hit.Edge: Jeter.The High-Priced Punching BagsCarlos Beltran vs. Alex RodriguezIf A-Rod developed the cure for a fatal disease, and Jeter said, "Good job, Alex," fans would salute Jeter for being such a team player, then boo Rodriguez the next time he struck out. All has been quiet lately for Beltran, but then again, the Mets have been on the road for nine games.Edge: Rodriguez.The Hired GunsPedro Martinez vs. Randy JohnsonHmmm... a delightful charmer who can still outsmart and overwhelm opposing hitters, against a sour loner who is pitching like his career is nearing an end. I need more time on this one.Edge: Martinez.The Controversial SluggersCarlos Delgado vs. Jason GiambiDelgado doesn't back away from serious questions and serious issues. Giambi stayed open-minded to all performance-enhancing drugs. This is a tough call. But each time Giambi crushes another homer, you peek toward home plate to make sure Bud Selig isn't there, waiting with a failed drug test.Edge: Delgado.The Morale BoostersPaul Lo Duca vs. Johnny DamonAh, "character," the scourge of the stat heads. Both newcomers have displayed their heralded skills and personalities. Damon just brings more to the party.Edge: Damon.The Japanese ImportsKazuo Matsui vs. Hideki MatsuiEven in these rarest of times, with Kaz healthy and Godzilla on the shelf, something tells me the Yankees still wouldn't trade Matsuis.Edge: Hideki Matsui.The Young BloodJose Reyes vs. Robinson CanoThe presence of the homegrown Cano in the Yankees' lineup still seems odd, like a foreign car on a Detroit highway. Whereas Reyes, after fighting away an early injury bug, is a bona fide member of the Mets' core.Edge: Reyes.The Final ActsBilly Wagner vs. Mariano RiveraOnly in New York would Wagner have to worry about offending people with his "Enter Sandman" theme song, and about being the second-best closer in town. Like Wagner, Rivera has been subpar this season, but he has much more in the bank.Edge: Rivera.The Experienced HandsTom Glavine vs. Mike MussinaIt was easy to write both of these guys off not long ago. Instead, both relied on their ample smarts to regain their edge, and both have been even better than the club's purported aces.Edge: Tie.The Front MenWillie Randolph vs. Joe TorreThey converse more in those Subway commercials than they ever seemed to when they worked together in pinstripes. This one is easy, just because of the experience factor. Torre has some 22 seasons on Randolph, and his work shows it.Edge: Torre.The Tech SupportRick Peterson vs. Ron GuidryPeterson, with no big-league experience, can break down pitching mechanics like a scientist, while Cy Young Award winner Guidry essentially believes that stuff is for wimps. Check back in when Guidry helps mold a trio like Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder and Barry Zito.Edge: Peterson.The EngineersOmar Minaya vs. Brian CashmanCashman lacked full authority under George Steinbrenner for so long, while Minaya, as the Expos' general manager, had to answer to 29 other owners. With Cashman now seemingly in charge for real, and with Minaya's imprint so firmly on this 2006 Mets club, let's see how things look at the conclusion of this season.Edge: Tie.The EmperorsFred Wilpon vs. George SteinbrennerThis isn't based on who's nicer, because that would be pretty easy. Hate The Boss, but his contributions to the industry are endless. Wilpon, in his fourth year since buying out Nelson Doubleday, has improved on many deficiencies.Edge: Steinbrenner.The Front-Office MuscleJeff Wilpon vs. Randy LevineThis is based on who's nicer, because these two men specialize in behind-the-scenes relationships. Wilpon used to be known as an office bully, but word now is that he's calmed down. Levine, meanwhile, still revels in picking fights with Bronx citizens and worldwide hurricane victims.Edge: Wilpon.The Home OfficesShea Stadium vs. Yankee StadiumThe Stadium is a baseball cathedral, history lurking in each corner, sure to be missed by many when the Yankees' new ballpark opens. In Shea, meanwhile, you'd look in the corners only to make sure there are no rats.Edge: Yankee Stadium.The PlatformsSNY vs. YESSure, if Steinbrenner were ever caught on tape strangling someone, the YES announcers would say the victim had it coming. But that's what most Yankees fans want, isn't it? I don't get SNY's whole "objective" approach. Save that for Newsday. Glorify away!Edge: YES.THE SERIESTonight, 7.10TV: Channels 9 & 11Randy JohnsonSeason Stats: 5-4, 5.13 ERACareer vs Mets: 6-4, 2.50 ERAFast fact: Mets manager Willie Randolph was 4-for-9 (.444) against Johnson in his career.VSJeremi GonzalezSeason Stats: 0-0, 5.40 ERACareer vs Yanks: 1-2, 4.30 ERAFast fact: Alex Rodriguez is 1-for-12 (.083) lifetime against Gonzalez.Tomorrow, 1:20TV: Ch. 5Mike MussinaSeason Stats: 6-1, 2.56 ERACareer vs Mets: 5-2, 4.01 ERAFast fact: Mussina is 3-0 with 1.40 ERA during the day this season.VSPedro MartinezSeason Stats: 5-0, 3.19 ERACareer vs Yanks: 11-10, 3.13Fast fact: Opponents are hitting just .164 against Martinez this season.Sunday, 8:05 p.m.TV: ESPNAaron SmallSeason Stats: 0-1, 8.71 ERACareer vs Mets: 0-0, 3.86Fast fact: Small has been released by five teams in his careerVS.Tom GlavineSeason Stats: 6-2, 2.43 ERACareer vs Yanks: 3-2, 3.80 ERAFast fact: Glavine is three strikeouts away from 2,400 for his careerhttp://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yan...y-yankees-print</div>

 

[Nebkreb]

mussina > Glavine....and Cano is an absolute beast, whiles Reyes has done nothing so far

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ May 19 2006, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>mussina > Glavine....and Cano is an absolute beast, whiles Reyes has done nothing so far</div>Glavine = 6-2, 2.43 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, .210 BAA, 47 K, 59.1 IPId say thats a bit better then Mussina, but its close.Reyes is also a run machine, and the most dangerous player in all of baseball on the bases. Cano is just a contact hitter.

 

[ST34LTH]

This season, Mussina beats Glavine any day.The Yankees D sucks...

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 19 2006, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ May 19 2006, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>mussina > Glavine....and Cano is an absolute beast, whiles Reyes has done nothing so far</div>Glavine = 6-2, 2.43 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, .210 BAA, 47 K, 59.1 IPMussina = 6-1, 2.56 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, .222 BAA, 52 K, 59.2 IP</div>Almost identical numbers. Both are all-stars in all probability. I would call it even personally.PS: 6-6

 

[AdropOFvenom]

Mets win 7-6 in the bottom of the 9th.Both the starters sucked. Johnson went 5 and Gonzalez only went 3 innings, both struggleing all game long. Mets bullpen was dominant, Oliver, Heilman, and Wagner gave up 0 runs in 6 innings. Mets hit Rivera well, LoDuca with a 1 out Double and then David Wright with the Walk Off RBI.Great Game (If you're a Mets fan)

 

[DevinHester23]

Red Line series ("L" series for those who don't live in Chicago)> Better than Subway series. BTW - Is there one subway train that connects Shea and Yankee stadium, like there is in Chicago, where you can hop on the L and take the Red line b/t the parks?

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 19 2006, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Red Line series ("L" series for those who don't live in Chicago)> Better than Subway series. BTW - Is there one subway train that connects Shea and Yankee stadium, like there is in Chicago, where you can hop on the L and take the Red line b/t the parks?</div>You would take the 4 train to get to Yankee Stadium and the 7 train to get to Shea Stadium. I believe theres a way to directly transfer from the 4 train line to the 7 train line though so I dont think its too bad to get from one to the other. But I dont take mass transit whenever I go into NYC so I couldnt tell you positively.And the NY Subway Series is better because we have 2 good baseball teams. The Chicago Subway series has the Defending Champs, but then they have the weak Cubs weighing the series down

 

[ST34LTH]

I dont know what the Yankees are doing by keep starting Randy Johnson. The last time he had a good start was well over a month ago, how about this rotation:MussinaChaconWangSmallWright(meh, but better then Johnson)

 

[Karlos]

New York Mets > New York Yankees...but that's not gonna be the world series. 2006 World Series: Cincinatti Reds vs Colorado Rockies! Rockies win in 7!!!

 

[ST34LTH]

rofl...WS:Cardinals, White Sox. CHW wins again.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead™ @ May 20 2006, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>New York Mets > New York Yankees...but that's not gonna be the world series. 2006 World Series: Cincinatti Reds vs Colorado Rockies! Rockies win in 7!!!</div>Thats impossible, they're both in the NL (duh).New York Mets Vs Chicago White Sox.... St34LTH, Wright and Small arent much better (If any) then Johnson. But at least with him you got a 260 win resume. More hope he pulls out of his struggles then Small who has been released by 5 teams already or Wright who just isnt very good IMO.

 

[Nebkreb]

damon has got to catch that fly ball by Wright....dive or do something you stupid douche......and the Mets arent better than the yankees..im sorry, but we are missing two hitters (gary Sheffield and Hideki MAtsui) and Posada had to leave the game early. Not to mention, that essentially, our worst pitcher pitched that game.and whoever suggested not to start Randy, we have to...we are paying him too much to have sit as our long reliever or as our 5th starter

 

[ST34LTH]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrowhead? @ May 20 2006, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>New York Mets > New York Yankees...but that's not gonna be the world series. 2006 World Series: Cincinatti Reds vs Colorado Rockies! Rockies win in 7!!!</div>Thats impossible, they're both in the NL (duh).New York Mets Vs Chicago White Sox....

St34LTH, Wright and Small arent much better (If any) then Johnson. But at least with him you got a 260 win resume. More hope he pulls out of his struggles then Small who has been released by 5 teams already or Wright who just isnt very good IMO.</div>Well Small did pretty dang good as a starter last year (10-0), and yeah, maybe Johnson instead of Wright, but he is not our #1 pitcher thats for sure.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ May 20 2006, 06:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>damon has got to catch that fly ball by Wright....dive or do something you stupid douche......and the Mets arent better than the yankees..im sorry, but we are missing two hitters (gary Sheffield and Hideki MAtsui) and Posada had to leave the game early. Not to mention, that essentially, our worst pitcher pitched that game.and whoever suggested not to start Randy, we have to...we are paying him too much to have sit as our long reliever or as our 5th starter</div>Damon was playing shallow in Center Field to set himself up for a throw to home (Since his Arm is compareable to that of a Younger Bernie Williams (mediocre at best). Once Wright hit that ball that far, Damon didnt have any chance of bringing it in. Although he did a pretty good job of trying. Your worst starting pitcher pitched that game? Our #8 Starter (Pedro, Glavine, Trachsel, Bannister(DL), Zambrano(Out For Year), Maine(DL), Lima, Gonzalez) was pitching. I dont see how you can complain about sending Randy Johnson to the mound against a teams #8 Starting Pitcher. I guess injuries are only crippleing when they affect the Yankees now, right?

 

[DevinHester23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 19 2006, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Red Line series ("L" series for those who don't live in Chicago)> Better than Subway series. BTW - Is there one subway train that connects Shea and Yankee stadium, like there is in Chicago, where you can hop on the L and take the Red line b/t the parks?</div>You would take the 4 train to get to Yankee Stadium and the 7 train to get to Shea Stadium. I believe theres a way to directly transfer from the 4 train line to the 7 train line though so I dont think its too bad to get from one to the other. But I dont take mass transit whenever I go into NYC so I couldnt tell you positively.And the NY Subway Series is better because we have 2 good baseball teams. The Chicago Subway series has the Defending Champs, but then they have the weak Cubs weighing the series down

</div>Okay, so there is no specific train you could give the series. Okay Subway series will do. In Chicago, you can take the Red Line b/t the two parks, but outside Chicago call it the "L" series. Only portions of a few lines are subways. Most of it is outside. And why the hell do you have a car in NYC. I thought that it's bloody murder to have a car in NYC.And the Chicago series is bigger than the NY series. I don't see the Yankee-Met hating at the same level as Cubs-Sox hating is

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 20 2006, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 19 2006, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Red Line series ("L" series for those who don't live in Chicago)> Better than Subway series. BTW - Is there one subway train that connects Shea and Yankee stadium, like there is in Chicago, where you can hop on the L and take the Red line b/t the parks?</div>You would take the 4 train to get to Yankee Stadium and the 7 train to get to Shea Stadium. I believe theres a way to directly transfer from the 4 train line to the 7 train line though so I dont think its too bad to get from one to the other. But I dont take mass transit whenever I go into NYC so I couldnt tell you positively.And the NY Subway Series is better because we have 2 good baseball teams. The Chicago Subway series has the Defending Champs, but then they have the weak Cubs weighing the series down

</div>Okay, so there is no specific train you could give the series. Okay Subway series will do. In Chicago, you can take the Red Line b/t the two parks, but outside Chicago call it the "L" series. Only portions of a few lines are subways. Most of it is outside. And why the hell do you have a car in NYC. I thought that it's bloody murder to have a car in NYC.And the Chicago series is bigger than the NY series. I don't see the Yankee-Met hating at the same level as Cubs-Sox hating is</div>I live 20-30 minutes outside of New York City. I dont live in the city....And the hate here is very mutual and at about the highest level imagineable, so dont even try to say that, cause you dont know what your talking about there.

 

[bobferg]

Fuck the subway series. The cross town classic just had a huge ass rumble.Mike barrett rapped AJ and hit him in the face. subway series can't hold the jock of the cross town classic.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 20 2006, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fuck the subway series. The cross town classic just had a huge ass rumble.Mike barrett rapped AJ and hit him in the face. subway series can't hold the jock of the cross town classic.</div>Nah, we only had Roger Clemens peg Mike Piazza in the face and then throw a broken bat at him.

 

[ST34LTH]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 20 2006, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fuck the subway series. The cross town classic just had a huge ass rumble.Mike barrett rapped AJ and hit him in the face. subway series can't hold the jock of the cross town classic.</div>Nah, we only had Roger Clemens peg Mike Piazza in the face and then throw a broken bat at him.

</div>Now that ...that was HILARIOUS

 

[bobferg]

and where are they now? Clemens is sitting on his ass doing nothing and piazza is trying to catch for the Pads.Stop living in the past...and get intune with the mean right cross that barrett throws. I can't wait till the video is online......it will get posted here.

 

[Nebkreb]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 06:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ May 20 2006, 06:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>damon has got to catch that fly ball by Wright....dive or do something you stupid douche......and the Mets arent better than the yankees..im sorry, but we are missing two hitters (gary Sheffield and Hideki MAtsui) and Posada had to leave the game early. Not to mention, that essentially, our worst pitcher pitched that game.and whoever suggested not to start Randy, we have to...we are paying him too much to have sit as our long reliever or as our 5th starter</div>Damon was playing shallow in Center Field to set himself up for a throw to home (Since his Arm is compareable to that of a Younger Bernie Williams (mediocre at best). Once Wright hit that ball that far, Damon didnt have any chance of bringing it in. Although he did a pretty good job of trying. Your worst starting pitcher pitched that game? Our #8 Starter (Pedro, Glavine, Trachsel, Bannister(DL), Zambrano(Out For Year), Maine(DL), Lima, Gonzalez) was pitching. I dont see how you can complain about sending Randy Johnson to the mound against a teams #8 Starting Pitcher. I guess injuries are only crippleing when they affect the Yankees now, right?

</div>ur right, Randy Johnson shouldve won that game...yet, if this was ayone BESIDES randy johnson pitching like this, they woud be in the minors right now

 

[DevinHester23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 20 2006, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and where are they now? Clemens is sitting on his ass doing nothing and piazza is trying to catch for the Pads.Stop living in the past...and get intune with the mean right cross that barrett throws. I can't wait till the video is online......it will get posted here.</div>

 

[DevinHester23]

"I thought it was the ball"

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 20 2006, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and where are they now? Clemens is sitting on his ass doing nothing and piazza is trying to catch for the Pads.Stop living in the past...and get intune with the mean right cross that barrett throws. I can't wait till the video is online......it will get posted here.</div>Theres no debate IMO, the New York series is easily more intense, because if your Cubs could even put up a fight it might be a decent series. But getting your asses owned repeatably by the White Sox isnt 'intense'. The Cubs have been lucky if they are still in the game come the third inning. The Subway Series (The real one at least) is non-stop, edge of your seat action with hatred towards the cross town team. It made me sick to my stomach to watch the Mets blow the game away today.

 

[ST34LTH]

And it made me happy seeing a youngster, who debatebly can't hit MLB pitching get a RBI.Wagner sucks

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ST34LTH @ May 20 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And it made me happy seeing a youngster, who debatebly can't hit MLB pitching get a RBI.Wagner sucks

</div>You guys were given the game on a silver platter today, that shit better not happen again.

 

[bobferg]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 20 2006, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and where are they now? Clemens is sitting on his ass doing nothing and piazza is trying to catch for the Pads.Stop living in the past...and get intune with the mean right cross that barrett throws. I can't wait till the video is online......it will get posted here.</div>Theres no debate IMO, the New York series is easily more intense, because if your Cubs could even put up a fight it might be a decent series. But getting your asses owned repeatably by the White Sox isnt 'intense'. The Cubs have been lucky if they are still in the game come the third inning. The Subway Series (The real one at least) is non-stop, edge of your seat action with hatred towards the cross town team. It made me sick to my stomach to watch the Mets blow the game away today.</div>LOL!!!!!!The cubs actually rape the white sox more often then not. Except this year they suck balls, and last year the white sox were the best team in the league.

 

[DevinHester23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 21 2006, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 20 2006, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 20 2006, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and where are they now? Clemens is sitting on his ass doing nothing and piazza is trying to catch for the Pads.Stop living in the past...and get intune with the mean right cross that barrett throws. I can't wait till the video is online......it will get posted here.</div>Theres no debate IMO, the New York series is easily more intense, because if your Cubs could even put up a fight it might be a decent series. But getting your asses owned repeatably by the White Sox isnt 'intense'. The Cubs have been lucky if they are still in the game come the third inning. The Subway Series (The real one at least) is non-stop, edge of your seat action with hatred towards the cross town team. It made me sick to my stomach to watch the Mets blow the game away today.</div>LOL!!!!!!The cubs actually rape the white sox more often then not. Except this year they suck balls, and last year the white sox were the best team in the league.</div>Actually the Winey Sux lead the all time series 27-23. But their fans are insuffeable shits. "Cubs Suck" is still their entire vocabulary. They still think the Cubs are their enemy. They were happy when Lee broke his wrist. They're the worst fans ever.

 

[bobferg]

yea....take out the dominateon of the past 2 years so far. 6-3 sox and it is pretty damn even. The first time my mom ever let me cuss infront of her was at a cubs sox game. God i gave it to albert belle so bad that game.