Summer "BIG Swing" trade

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It will be interesting to see what Houston does with their roster. On the one hand, they have a few good young studs (Green, Amen, Sengun) and IMO a few mediocre young players (Cam, Eason, Shepherd, and Smith)

Then they have the 5'11" Van Vleet, who seemed to be their "glue" guy. Do they opt out of his 45 million contract? Keep him, or trade him?

Smith is incorrectly used imho and has some potential as a 4 / stretch 5 for some team in the league. Shepherd seems like a guy that can still break out once he gets used to the physicality and speed of the NBA. Green is too inconsistent, Sengun feels like a nice player as a #2 or #3 on the roster, not a real cornerstone. Amen is something else defensively - and if he ever learns to shoot - watch out.

I am willing to bet FVV is extended somehow and they keep him so his salary per year is more palatable than the one year / $40m+ he currently has, The will also keep Brooks and likely Steven Adams (unless LAL manage to snag him) imho.
 
It would seem that Anthony B or C Anthony wouldn't be needed from the Magic if they added Ant in their backcourt. I'd prefer Black but would be fine with either.

Doesn't it need to be both for matching salaries? Or at least someone else with a similar contract?
At least that is what ESPN Trade Machine says.'
 
Doesn't it need to be both for matching salaries? Or at least someone else with a similar contract?
At least that is what ESPN Trade Machine says.'

IIRC, the maximum trade diffential for a Simons trade would be 7.5M. In other words, if the trade takes place this season, around the draft, the Magic could theoretically send out as little as 25.9M - 7.5M = 18.4M

I said 'theoretically' because as of right now, the Magic have 199.4M in schedules salary NEXT season. The tax line is going to be around 188M so they would be between the 1st and 2nd apron; meaning they could not take back more salary than they send out. BUT, they don't have that restriction right now and thru the draft

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the 'simple' solution would be Simons for Issac. But Issac is an injury magnet and he's not that good; with a lot of years left on his deal. C. Anthony + Bitadze works but reportedly, the Magic are really high on Bitadze. I'm assuming Orlando is just planning on waiving Gary Harris but Antony + Harris would work

Simons for KCP? Can the Blazers really afford the 21.6M salary for KCP in 2026-27? Does Orlando actually need both Suggs and KCP if they have Simons? Could KCP be redirected to a contender for some draft asset(s)?
 

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How is he being used, and how should he be used?

His usage rate was reduced from him rookie year to this year - especially when they are trying to play him at the 3 when they are running the double-big with Sengun and Adams - he is mostly camped in the corner on offense it seems. I would argue that he is exposed when they play him at the 3 since his handle is sub-par and he can not really contribute like he can. I think that his position as I said is a 4 or a stretch 5 in the modern NBA where his speed and relatively limited handle is less of an issue.

On the Blazers for example, I can see him being a 4 in a super big lineup that runs Sharpe, Deni, Tou, Smith and DC - or you can slide him to the 5 in a "small ball" where Scoot replaces DC for a super switchy, fast line-up. That seems to me like the right place to play him, but I am no Ime Udoka.
 
His usage rate was reduced from him rookie year to this year - especially when they are trying to play him at the 3 when they are running the double-big with Sengun and Adams - he is mostly camped in the corner on offense it seems. I would argue that he is exposed when they play him at the 3 since his handle is sub-par and he can not really contribute like he can. I think that his position as I said is a 4 or a stretch 5 in the modern NBA where his speed and relatively limited handle is less of an issue.

I did not notice him playing that much 3, but I agree he does not have the handles for it. Either way, right now, his offensive game is pretty much just a 3 and D 220 lbs forward.

He is still young and could improve, but as it stands, he is probably an upgrade over Walker and Murray, but not Deni or Camara. And only 3 years ago, we would have all taken him over Sharpe. Many thought he was better than Chet and Banchero. The draft remains a crap shoot
 
Simmons mentioned a DeAndre to Lakers idea for a first and salary dump.

Love it. Do it tmrw.

If it were tmrw, they would need to include 3 players, including Knecht.
Rui, DFS, and Knecht.

Grant would be easier if they did not want to include Knecht.
 
The #10 for Onyeka Okongwu

…or

Expand the Simons/Orlando deal and use those assets to send to Atlanta for Okongwu
 
Doesn't it need to be both for matching salaries? Or at least someone else with a similar contract?
At least that is what ESPN Trade Machine says.'
Actually need a tad more salary than both I believe.

Yeah theres a number of salaries that could match. Do we get something for eating KCP deal? Do they send us Gary Harris? Maybe we want to get Goga?
 
IIRC, the maximum trade diffential for a Simons trade would be 7.5M. In other words, if the trade takes place this season, around the draft, the Magic could theoretically send out as little as 25.9M - 7.5M = 18.4M

I said 'theoretically' because as of right now, the Magic have 199.4M in schedules salary NEXT season. The tax line is going to be around 188M so they would be between the 1st and 2nd apron; meaning they could not take back more salary than they send out. BUT, they don't have that restriction right now and thru the draft

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the 'simple' solution would be Simons for Issac. But Issac is an injury magnet and he's not that good; with a lot of years left on his deal. C. Anthony + Bitadze works but reportedly, the Magic are really high on Bitadze. I'm assuming Orlando is just planning on waiving Gary Harris but Antony + Harris would work

Simons for KCP? Can the Blazers really afford the 21.6M salary for KCP in 2026-27? Does Orlando actually need both Suggs and KCP if they have Simons? Could KCP be redirected to a contender for some draft asset(s)?
I'm not sure all 3 of Issac, WCJ, Goga make sense to me for the Magic. Probably any of the three could pair well with Clingan.

I believe Mortiz Wagner could be cut along with Harris. But if not then thats 4 bigs the Magic have.
 
I'm not sure all 3 of Issac, WCJ, Goga make sense to me for the Magic. Probably any of the three could pair well with Clingan.

Yes, I know Orlando would say no, but how about Simons, Grant (or Ayton) #10, and Milwaukee's unprotected pick for
Banchero. (and all the dead weight they want to get rid of for matching salary purposes) Banchero is very good, but he is not a superstar. Two potential lottery picks plus Simons and either Grant or Ayton is not a bad offer.
 
Simmons mentioned a DeAndre to Lakers idea for a first and salary dump.

Love it. Do it tmrw.
Yeah I'd love it. What are the worst contracts the Lakers have?

This is what I came up with;

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Actually didn't realize they had enough shitty contracts to match Ayton. I'd do that deal for sure - just hope Ayton is gone the most from this team. Kind of sucks having Vanderbilt deal.
 

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Yes, I know Orlando would say no, but how about Simons, Grant (or Ayton) #10, and Milwaukee's unprotected pick for
Banchero. (and all the dead weight they want to get rid of for matching salary purposes) Banchero is very good, but he is not a superstar. Two lottery picks plus Simons and either Grant or Ayton is not a bad offer.
Is this a joke?

He is 22 years old, ROY, an allstar, scoring 26ppg. So no he is a star, as well as far and away Orlando's best player. He's untouchable for anyone on our roster let alone some Simons/Grant/Ayton package.

What about any two of our best players for Paolo... Deni and Camara? Deni and Sharpe? Camara and Sharpe? Deni and Scoot? Not really sure who our two best guys are but they couldn't get him either.
 
Is this a joke?

He is 22 years old and just made an allstar game scoring 26ppg - so no he is a star, as well as far and away Orlando's best player. He's untouchable for anyone on our roster let alone some Simons/Grant/Ayton package.

Well, you forgot the two lottery picks, which are the biggest part of the package. And the fact that what they got going on in Orlando,
looked bad in the last two playoffs. They need to do something.
 
If it were tmrw, they would need to include 3 players, including Knecht.
Rui, DFS, and Knecht.

Grant would be easier if they did not want to include Knecht.
Why would the Lakers want to trade away any of those guys? They are all better than Ayton. DFS was a key starter and has chemistry with Luka.

I could see them sending out Knecht though.
 
Well, you forgot the two lottery picks, which are the biggest part of the package. And the fact that what they got going on in Orlando,
looked bad in the last two playoffs. They need to do something.
They are a young team with a lot of talent in Banchero/Wagner/Suggs/etc. Impressive they made the playoffs with all those injuries this year. Young teams normally struggle their first few years in the playoffs. They've spent most the last two decades rebuilding and aren't eager to do that again.

They just need some offense and shooting so Paolo doesn't have to carry such a huge burden. Simons is about the perfect player for that roster. Taking out Paolo would mean they need to rebuild the whole thing and then getting Simons would be pointless.
 
Why would the Lakers want to trade away any of those guys? They are all better than Ayton. DFS was a key starter and has chemistry with Luka.

I could see them sending out Knecht though.

Not saying they would, just saying what matches.
I sure as hell don't want to add Vanderbilt's contract.
 
They are a young team with a lot of talent in Banchero/Wagner/Suggs/etc. Impressive they made the playoffs with all those injuries this year. Young teams normally struggle their first few years in the playoffs. They've spent most the last two decades rebuilding and aren't eager to do that again.

They just need some offense and shooting so Paolo doesn't have to carry such a huge burden. Simons is about the perfect player for that roster. Taking out Paolo would mean they need to rebuild the whole thing and then getting Simons would be pointless.

Maybe, but last summer, people were saying that KCP was a better option than Simons. Same 3pt shooting, but a better defender. Interesting that now, Simons is the perfect player for them.
 
Maybe, but last summer, people were saying that KCP was a better option than Simons. Same 3pt shooting, but a better defender. Interesting that now, Simons is the perfect player for them.
KCP had a bad year, so now he is worth less. See Jerami Grant.

Although Orlando didn't have to give up anything to add KCP, so I'm not sure they flat preferred him as a player, just that they preferred him to whatever the Blazers wanted back last year in a Simons trade.
 
Why would the Lakers want to trade away any of those guys? They are all better than Ayton. DFS was a key starter and has chemistry with Luka.

I could see them sending out Knecht though.

If anything last year proved that you need athletic size and lob targets for Luka to work - DA fits that mold a lot better than any of these 3. The Lakers need size and DA is a lot better than anything they have on their roster for this role, especially on an expiring contract, at worst, it gets them out of Vanderbilt's contract 2 years earlier.
 
I read a few takes that say the Lakers are looking at adding Brook Lopez next season...he's 37 so right along Lebron's timeline but a lot cheaper than Ayton.
 
Not saying they would, just saying what matches.
I sure as hell don't want to add Vanderbilt's contract.
Looking at the Lakers roster they really have very little assets. Reaves is they're only good starting level piece. Rui and DFS are fine as bench or occasional role playing starter. Knecht is on ok prospect but probably not needed on a Luka/LBJ roster.

They really need to add about 4 big minute players.

If LBJ looks to retire they might be better off just flipping Luka to the highest bidder. Currently they are out their 2029 pick and 2027 they keep only if its top4. They can certainly get way more than that back in a Luka deal.
 
If anything last year proved that you need athletic size and lob targets for Luka to work - DA fits that mold a lot better than any of these 3. The Lakers need size and DA is a lot better than anything they have on their roster for this role, especially on an expiring contract, at worst, it gets them out of Vanderbilt's contract 2 years earlier.
Oh I agree upgrading from Vanderbilt to Ayton makes a lot of sense for them. Its the Rui/DFS subtraction that I said doesn't make sense. They need those guys to play minutes.
 
I read a few takes that say the Lakers are looking at adding Brook Lopez next season...he's 37 so right along Lebron's timeline but a lot cheaper than Ayton.
Brook might make sense either way especially if they can get him for the tax MLE or such.

Crazy that its 8 years ago when Brook played for the Lakers.
 
Nah - Smith may cap out as a Grant level player (at his best), but Im not confident that he'll even reach that level

Standing 6'11" with fluid footwork and a high release, Jabari's shooting profile projects as ideal next to a rim-centric big like Donovan Clingan or as a small-ball center. His ability to space the floor opens crucial real estate for Scoot Henderson’s downhill game, while his defensive mobility allows him to switch, stunt, and recover in a way that perfectly complements a wing rotation featuring Deni Avdija and Toumani Camara. He’s not a perfect player yet—but that’s part of the appeal. He brings versatility, upside, and the kind of high-character work ethic you want embedded in a long-term rebuild.

In theory, Jabari’s growth arc dovetails nicely with Portland’s timeline. In practice? He’d offer real lineup flexibility from day one. He can play backup 4 in conventional lineups, or run a small-ball unit with Advija , Camara and Smith that's very switchy. It’s easy to imagine him as a floor spacer that fits in any lineup.

But that’s all basketball. That’s the part you can measure. The part that makes the charts look good.

Here’s what you can’t quantify.

There’s a janitor in Charlotte—Alonzo, I think is his name—worked the visitor’s locker room for 27 years. Says he’s seen hundreds of players pass through, most of them too busy arguing about foul calls or yelling at assistant coaches to say hello. Jabari Smith Jr.? Not only does he always say thank you, he once stayed late after a preseason game to help mop up a busted urinal flood in the corner bathroom. Didn’t flinch. Just said, “You got another mop?” and got to work like it was game 7. He wears rubber gloves like he was born for it. There’s something monastic about the way he approaches ammonia.

And it’s not a one-off.

Detroit, January—subzero wind, frostbitten air—Jabari’s the last guy out of the building because he’s helping the janitorial crew salt the tunnel. "Slippery when wet" sign in one hand, bag of rock salt in the other. He’s not doing this for PR. There are no cameras. No agents. Just the gentle silence of a 21-year-old man looking at a clogged drain and deciding, “I am this drain’s shepherd.”

Look, I’ve seen a lot of power forwards come and go. Most of them want shots. Or minutes. Or status. Jabari? He wants clarity. He wants clean lines. A disinfected baseline. The sour musk of bleach and victory.

There are men who play basketball, and there are men who stand barefoot in a puddle of piss in Memphis, TN, holding a bottle of Lysol and muttering something about how “cleanliness is a kind of love.”

You want culture? You want character?

Trade for Jabari Smith Jr.

And get that man a goddamn mop.
 
Well according to Richman this morning the Ant to Orlando rumor has legs...he's been at their playoff games and looks like they are now showing interest in bringing him home...this will be a huge move as it essentially jettisons the last of the Neil Olshey roster. Ant will be happy back home...he's close to his family and his favorite team is the Magic. Win win trade. Not sure what comes back but I would hope draft capital.

Scoot needs the rock. Needs the leash. Needs to learn how to drive the Ferrari and crash it into a fire hydrant. With Anfernee soaking up usage and floating through defensive possessions like he’s above lateral movement, it’s hard to build the on-ball reps—and the culture—that a young team needs.

A three-team deal could fix that:
  • Anfernee Simons goes to Orlando,

  • Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Denver’s pick go to Chicago,

  • Portland gets Kevin Huerter, Gary Harris (as breathing contract ballast), and their own pick back from Chicago.
Basketball-wise, it’s a reasonable compromise. Huerter can shoot. He can space. He’ll let Scoot work. The defense might scream like a rusted hinge, but hey, at least Scoot’s driving.

But let’s not stop at the analytics.

Let’s talk about character.

Because there’s been this long-running myth in Portland that Anfernee Simons is a soft-spoken, humble, high-character guy. And maybe that was true when he was 20. But over the last few years, he’s gotten… weird. Cold. One veteran staffer swears Simons once laughed when the team chef dropped a tray of salmon filets. Just stood there sipping a green smoothie and said, “Five-second rule,” while interns scrambled to save the lemon garnish.

There’s a custodian at the Moda Center—Marlene, God bless her—who swears Anfernee once tracked in muddy sneakers, walked past her mopping, and said, “That’s why we have you, right?”

That’s why we have you.

No please. No sorry. Just bourgeois contempt sprayed across her dignity like bleach on tile.

Now, is Kevin Huerter a perfect citizen? No. Definitely not.

There’s a story from the Phoenix airport where he got into it with a rental car agent who gently informed him the SUV he requested wasn’t available. Huerter, fresh off a back-to-back and allegedly short on REM sleep, reportedly narrowed his eyes and said:

“You one-eyed bastard.”

Now, to be fair, the man was wearing an eye patch. And Huerter did come back five minutes later with an apology note and a voucher for Panda Express, which, honestly, is more remorse than most of us can muster.

So yeah—maybe Huerter has a temper. Maybe he needs some emotional coaching and a ban from Budget Rent-a-Car. But he’s a role player. He spaces the floor. He gets out of Scoot’s way. And when the ball swings, he shoots. Cleanly. Like a man who knows better than to mock the sanitation crew.

Sometimes, the right move isn’t about PER or TS%. Sometimes it’s about restoring dignity to the mop.

Send Anfernee to Florida.

Give Scoot the keys.

And give Marlene a damn raise.
 
OK. How about Simons and Ayton for Isaac, KCP, Black and FRP? Isaac is used to being a backup and so Clingan could start with no drama. Isaac has four more years but it's at only 15 million a year. he was fairly productive before last year. I guess that is two bad contracts. Maybe we would need to get two FRPs?
 
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