Game Thread SUPERBOWL LIII - New England Patriots VS Los Angeles Rams

[Chris Craig]

C'mon, this is where your bias is coming in again.

It's called a joke man

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Not allowed to touch the patriots

Guarding them wasn't the problem except apparently, they couldn't figure out how to stay on Edelman (That dude is lightning quick my goodness).
The problem was the Patriots defense had them all sort of figured out. I think people really have glossed over the Cooper Kupp injury look at their offense with him vs without him. Kupp is their version of Edelman, Combine that with Gurley's problems, that team really had some issues. Patriots were the better team.

 

[hoopsjock]

Even when they don't get touched, there can still be a penalty. I.e....phantom roughing the passer call against the Chiefs.

I agree that was a terrible call, although technically in the rule book it specifically says you can't use your arm like a club and make contact. The one from the Super Bowl was called correctly though.

 

[Hoopguru]

That's just how the game is now. It's okay to argue the rule or hate that player's safety is ruining the game but it was called correctly.

ok....just the NBA defenders have their hands tied behind their backs now.
Its about selling tickets and revenue not just safety and the offensive side of a football and basketbball is what sells TV viewership. Listen to how many people are complaining that it was a boring game.
I don't mind a low scoring game with smash mouth football and basketball.

 

[TBpup]

Guarding them wasn't the problem except apparently, they couldn't figure out how to stay on Edelman (That dude is lightning quick my goodness).
The problem was the Patriots defense had them all sort of figured out. I think people really have glossed over the Cooper Kupp injury look at their offense with him vs without him. Kupp is their version of Edelman, Combine that with Gurley's problems, that team really had some issues. Patriots were the better team.

Agreed....take out their best player due to nagging injury and one of their top WR's and the Pats were the better team.. Huzzah!

 

[hoopsjock]

ok....just the NBA defenders have their hands tied behind their backs now.
Its about selling tickets and revenue not just safety and the offensive side of a football and basketbball is what sells TV viewership. Listen to how many people are complaining that it was a boring game.
I don't mind a low scoring game with smash mouth football and basketball.

So you think they should just keep allowing stuff like that until someone dies on the field? Or even after that happens should they still man up and stop being pussies?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Agreed....take out their best player due to nagging injury and one of their top WR's and the Pats were the better team.. Huzzah!

Well, I'm not a fan of either so I don't really care. I enjoyed the Superbowl but it's probably from a place of that I spend Superbowl Sunday with my kids and my parents it's family time for me. We played games and kept the kids entertained while the game was on. I also kind of like watching good defenses play, I have always appreciated good defense a lot.

 

[Hoopguru]

So you think they should just keep allowing stuff like that until someone dies on the field? Or even after that happens should they still man up and stop being pussies?

I'm about balance, some of the collisions can be addressed but they cant take basic tackling from the game without giving the offense way to much advantage. Im ok with certain guidelines given to defenders to help protect deaths and bad injuries, but some of the calls are very subjective. There will always be violent tackling because the game is fast, big players but they are very well conditioned too.
That particular play wasn't dangerous in my mind its was actually pretty light considering the condition, gear and adrenaline. Its one of those subjective call.

 

[bobf]

Guarantee you none of us Blazer fans would be mad if they won a game 7 in the finals 50-48...

I’m a Brady fan and therefore a Pats fan for a little while longer. Wasn’t boring at all. Game was a nail biter the whole way and in doubt still with 4 minutes to play. I’m sure Rams fans weren’t bored either. Frustrating & agonizing but not boring.

 

[TBpup]

I’m a Brady fan and therefore a Pats fan for a little while longer. Wasn’t boring at all. Game was a nail biter the whole way and in doubt still with 4 minutes to play. I’m sure Rams fans weren’t bored either. Frustrating & agonizing but not boring.

Today at the office, every single person had the same variation of comment. "How boring....what a terrible Super Bowl." Purely anecdotal, but it was 100%.

 

[bobf]

What are you talking about? The defender led with his helmet and hit a defenseless receiver helmet to helmet. You can literally fuck a player's life up doing that shit. With what we know now about head injuries it would be criminal to allow hits like that to continue in the game of football.

And it doesn’t even have to be helmet to helmet. Can’t hit the head or neck area with anything on a defenseless player.

 

[bobf]

Today at the office, every single person had the same variation of comment. "How boring....what a terrible Super Bowl." Purely anecdotal, but it was 100%.

Well if it was two teams I didn’t care about then yeah I want a 47 to 45 game too. But it was down to the wire and it was some amazing defensive game plans to hold those two offenses down. To each his/her own.

 

[BonesJones]

I'm about balance, some of the collisions can be addressed but they cant take basic tackling from the game without giving the offense way to much advantage. Im ok with certain guidelines given to defenders to help protect deaths and bad injuries, but some of the calls are very subjective. There will always be violent tackling because the game is fast, big players but they are very well conditioned too.
That particular play wasn't dangerous in my mind its was actually pretty light considering the condition, gear and adrenaline. Its one of those subjective call.

In basketball there's still a lot of scoring relative to other sports even if it's a huge "defensive" battle. Plus, big blocked shots are extremely exciting to watch, and about as excited as a big hit in football. Yet blocks are more plentiful and usually aren't penalized and don't almost kill someone.

 

[bobf]

Did you see him this year? He’s slowing way down. Way down. Did you see him tonight? He’s not the same player. The talent around him is deeper (credit to him taking much less in salary so the roster can be deeper - also part of his greatness).

He could be slowing down but IMO there not much evidence of that.

This year? His QB rating is average for his career and better than 9 of 18 of his younger years.

Tonight? Small sample. QB rating for last two games was a paltry 75. Two games before that 120. Variance.

Talent? Pats are a great team overall but he did not have a great receiver core this year. Vs Rams he basically had 1.5 guys who could get open.

Obviously he’s gonna slow down pretty soon. Maybe not yet though. We’ll see next year.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

He could be slowing down but IMO there not much evidence of that.

This year? His QB rating is average for his career and better than 9 of 18 of his younger years.

Tonight? Small sample. QB rating for last two games was a paltry 75. Two games before that 120. Variance.

Talent? Pats are a great team overall but he did not have a great receiver core this year. Vs Rams he basically had 1.5 guys who could get open.

Obviously he’s gonna slow down pretty soon. Maybe not yet though. We’ll see next year.

I’m not hating - TB is an amazing talent and he’s got a football genius behind him as coach. I like TB and the Pats more than most not in New England. I’m just putting a prediction out there.

 

[bobf]

I’m not hating - TB is an amazing talent and he’s got a football genius behind him as coach. I like TB and the Pats more than most not in New England. I’m just putting a prediction out there.

Ok, then he’s got to fall off next year for you to be right, cuz of course he will pretty soon.

It won’t be his body legs or arm I don’t think. It’s Bradys brain that makes him Brady. His ability to parse the field in an instant and figure out where the ball should go. I think that’s what will go first.

 

[bobf]

In basketball there's still a lot of scoring relative to other sports even if it's a huge "defensive" battle. Plus, big blocked shots are extremely exciting to watch, and about as excited as a big hit in football. Yet blocks are more plentiful and usually aren't penalized and don't almost kill someone.

I watched Darryl Stingley play and saw him become a quadriplegic so I have no problem with these rules. It does make the game less exciting but whatever.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Ok, then he’s got to fall off next year for you to be right, cuz of course he will pretty soon.

It won’t be his body legs or arm I don’t think. It’s Bradys brain that makes him Brady. His ability to parse the field in an instant and figure out where the ball should go. I think that’s what will go first.

He’s already proven us wrong, thus far.... so who really knows?

 

[bobf]

He’s already proven us wrong, thus far.... so who really knows?

Yeah. I do wish he would retire on top though. I hate seeing great athletes play too long. One more year is ok though. I predicted after his 5th ring that was all he’d get. Then after he missed last year I really thought he’d never get 6. No way he gets 7. Jinx.

 

[Hoopguru]

In basketball there's still a lot of scoring relative to other sports even if it's a huge "defensive" battle. Plus, big blocked shots are extremely exciting to watch, and about as excited as a big hit in football. Yet blocks are more plentiful and usually aren't penalized and don't almost kill someone.

The point I was making earlier is that the NBA has made it tougher on the d side of the ball to get scoring up because thats what sells.
Football is a violent physical game and those that play it realize thats the case too. Im not against some actions to prevent serious injuries at all and they've done quit a bit, some would say maybe to much is certain areas. At a glance the pro game is pretty safe and one may have greater odds at getting rear ended on the hwy than seriously hurt in a football game now. It happens but considering all the collisions and physicality of the game it's not to bad. Just my old guy opinion, hell when i played they just started using face guards, just one band not a whole mask.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Reminds me of my S2 friends.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[stampedehero]

I went to my friends house who is a Pats fan. The walls, the shelves, everything was Pats. I supported him. He's my friend. Even though I dislike the Pats, I respect my friend so much more.