Swift to NJ?

[PlaTsanity]

Source: www.realgm.com

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Nets are trying to pry Stromile Swift from Houston. They are concerned about Jason Collins and now have Marc Jackson wondering whether he'd be better off somewhere else after he was benched last night</div>

hm who do you guys think you'll have to give up for swift?

 

[thedude9990]

I Think We Should Of Went After Him Or Marshall In Stead Of Shareef In The Begining

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">Source: www.realgm.com



hm who do you guys think you'll have to give up for swift?</div>

Im sure they will be willing to give Jackson and Houtson take him. Swift for Jackson straight up.

 

[tr@cy&ya0]

nope.... it said that houston wasn't interestted in jackson and first round pick for swift.... swift is starting to find a role in here.... i don't think carrol dawson is that stupid and trade swift for jackson and first round pick...

 

[Bobcats]

If I was Dawson, I would do that trade in a second. Swift is lazy and unmotivated, and to get a first round pick would be great.

 

[bbwAce]

Jackson and a pick for Swift is not enough by any means...Right now, I'm very reluctant to give up Swift because he's starting to get things more and more with each passing day...I think he's playing at only 60% of what he could become for the Rockets...

 

[AznxBaller]

Marc Jackson and a pick, most definitely. I've seen Jackson as a Sixer and he definitely has it in him. Jackson can play down low with garbage points, go outside for a midrange shot, and rebound the ball decently. Though he's obviously not the best rebounder, he's still an upgrade over Swift. The pick just makes this trade even better.

 

[Shapecity]

I would make this trade if I'm Houston, and then pursue Chris Wilcox, Reggie Evans, or Melvin Ely next summer. There's a lot of quality role players in next year's draft and the Rockets will need cheap young talent to succeed.

 

[PlaTsanity]

i doubt it that rockets will trade away swift for just jackson and a pick
i just dont see that happening
and T-Mac wont let that trade happen
he promised Swift that he will turn him into a star

 

[giftedvisionz]

I really hope the Nets try to pursue Swift. Maybe adding Murray or Planinic to the trade along with Jackson and the 1st round pick from the Clippers can help.

 

[AznxBaller]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I really hope the Nets try to pursue Swift. Maybe adding Murray or Planinic to the trade along with Jackson and the 1st round pick from the Clippers can help.</div>
Wow. All that for Swift is one of the most lopsided trades I've heard. If I was Carroll Dawson, I'd that do trade right away.

 

[Bobcats]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">i doubt it that rockets will trade away swift for just jackson and a pick
i just dont see that happening
and T-Mac wont let that trade happen
he promised Swift that he will turn him into a star</div>

T-Mac can't turn him into a star. Only Stromile can turn himself into a star, but unfortunetly he probably ever won't. Swift can put up big numbers when he wants and can also turn it off when he wants. The only thing he's got going for him is people are still giving him the 'potential' label.

 

[Next Level Game]

The Nets don't need Swift. Under Frank he would barely get minutes if Jackson can't find any.

 

[njvc15]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Only Stromile can turn himself into a star</div>

J.kidd could turn him into a star

 

[jbbBigMo763]

In the past, I would have agreed, but just watching Kidd this year he doesn't seem to be the same player he was. He has gone away from what he tended to do the past few years, and that is understandable because he is getting older.

As far as the Nets getting Swift, I don't see the Rockets doing a deal unless one of the big three is included.

 

[XSV]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In the past, I would have agreed, but just watching Kidd this year he doesn't seem to be the same player he was. He has gone away from what he tended to do the past few years, and that is understandable because he is getting older.</div>

Don't speak too soon. Kidd and the big 3 are starting to get going. He has 13 assists today... in the first half. 16 against Denver. Losing to Charlotte was a wake-up call.

I would do the Jackson + a pick trade for swift, but whoever said that one of the big 3 would have to be included is smoking crack. Swift is not that great. I think he would fit in better in NJ, but a pick +Jackson is probably still more than he's worth.

 

[jbbBigMo763]

Why wouldn't Houston want one of the big three? I certainly don't see them trading Swift away for just Jackson and a pick. The Rockets are doing very well since McGrady has come back, and Swift has been solid for them providing energy off the bench. Jackson doesn't fit the Rockets better than Swift does. I was looking at it from Houston's perspective... Houston doing a Swift for Jackson + pick deal doesn't make sense to me.

 

[XSV]

You honestly think that Swift is worth one of the big 3? Salary issues aside, Swift isn't even close to the value of RJ, VC or Kidd.

 

[jbbBigMo763]

I'm not saying he is worth one of them, but looking at it from Houston's point of view I don't see why they would just give him up for Jackson and a pick. They were searching for an athletic power forward to put next to Yao, and they got that in Stro even though he doesn't start.

I like Jackson after watching him last year with the Sixers, but he isn't exactly what the Rockets need. He is not athletic at all, and pretty much all he is good for is his jumper, and that can be suspect at times. Whatever they'd get from him they are getting with Juwan Howard, and Jackson is useless on the boards against tougher teams. He got slapped around like a little kid last year against Detroit in the playoffs.

Once again, I'm not saying Swift is worth one of the big three, but looking at it from Houston's view (or what I think they're view would be), I don't think they'd trade Swift for Jackson (essentially). Maybe if Krstic was added in there as another big body, but if the Nets do that then it is pointless to add Swift.

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">You honestly think that Swift is worth one of the big 3? Salary issues aside, Swift isn't even close to the value of RJ, VC or Kidd.</div>


Agreed and before we make any move we should wait a few games, because the Nets are playing better for now. I think we should wait a couple of more games before deciding on making a trade.

 

[jbbBigMo763]

I also agree with that... a lot of this trade speculation is premature. True, the Nets were struggling, but obvously they'll wait and see whether or not this group of guys can turn it around. I've heard they're shopping Carter around (or planning on it)... any news on that? Just curious...

Anyway, the Rockets even rejected the Swift for Jackson + pick trade, so they've already said they won't do it.

 

[NJNetz]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMo763:</div><div class="quote_post">I also agree with that... a lot of this trade speculation is premature. True, the Nets were struggling, but obvously they'll wait and see whether or not this group of guys can turn it around. I've heard they're shopping Carter around (or planning on it)... any news on that? Just curious...

Anyway, the Rockets even rejected the Swift for Jackson + pick trade, so they've already said they won't do it.</div>

Yea they are looking to see what they can get for Carter but I prefer to keep him. Unless we can get someone like KG I think we should keep him. He just seems to valuable to give up unless for someone on the same level.

If the Rockets don't want Jackson and a pick for Swift,that's their problem. We should not add anyone to the deal for Swift. Not worth it.

 

[XSV]

Krstic is better than Swift. Period. If we have to give up Krstic then it's not worth it.

Of course Houston has initially rejected this trade, because they want to see if they can get more from us. Maybe we can send over Jackson and McInnis for Stro and a filler. We're using Vaughan over JMac anyway, so why not package both of them.

Another possibility is sending Mcinnis and Jackson over to Atlanta for Childress, Lue and a filler. Don't know about cap issues.

 

[kobimel]

^^^

How would Jackson and McInnis for Childress, Lue, and a filler improve us in any way? Lue is on the same level, if not worse, than McInnis, Childress wouldn't help us since we don't need another swingman of the bench, and a filler would probably be a guy who barely gets minutes. Plus, we would lose Jackson and be left with only one capable "PF/C" off the bench, Cliff Robinson (I don't consider Padgett one, he seems more like a SF to me).

I think we should try Jackson, Clipper's 1st, and our 2nd round pick, for Swift. I would really like a lineup like that, extremely explosive. Also, Swift would add more defense and more athletisicm to our weak frontcourt. If that doesn't work out I think we should go for Steven Hunter, maybe trade a benchie that barely gets minutes like Lammond Murray for him?

 

[jbbBigMo763]

Eh, I'm pretty sure that if the Nets wanted Hunter they would have to part with Jackson... I like that trade, but I'm not sure if I'd do it for the Sixers. It's not everyday you get two athletic seven-footers at the center position, even if Hunter isn't getting many minutes right now.

 

[Bobcats]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting njvc15:</div><div class="quote_post">J.kidd could turn him into a star</div>

J-Kidd can't turn someone who is lazy and unmotivated into a star. Kidd turned Kenyon into an All-star because Kenyon gave 100% every game. Swift doesn't do that.

 

[bbwAce]

Can any Nets fans tell me about Plananic? Perhaps it would be wise to trade Swift for Jax and Plananic...Swift can only thrive in an uptempo system, and its clear JVG doesnt play that style...

 

[Henacy]

During the summer I would have taken Swift...but Iam not really that interested in Swift anymore. Honestly before the summer, I didnt really know completely what his tendencies were since he played in Vancouver/Memphis. And I dont follow the Grizzlies, closely. But looking at him on the Rockets, I have to agree that the motivation to be consistent isnt their for this guy...so I wouldnt want to throw a first rounder on him, honestly. If it was Jackson for him straight up then of course I would do it in a heart beat...because of the athleitc edge that Swift has alone. Anyway, honestly I want Tony Battie..I think he is proven, he is athletic..can run the floor, change a few shots defensively, I think the risk factor of getting a proven guy like Battie is much less then getting a suspect guy like Swift.

 

[XSV]

Lue would be an energetic pg off the bench who plays better D than Jeff. But the real key in this deal would be getting Childress for Jackson. Jax isn't playing and is very unhappy, while Josh would be a perfect swingmen off the bench instead of Murray. Hawks need a bigman, and are too deep at the 3 anyway, while we get more depth in the backcourt. This would cause a problem for us if one of our bigs got injured, so we'd probably have to make a minor deal with Planinic for a decnt big (maybe Aaron Williams?)