Switching Screens

[Hank The Dwarf]

25 feet from the Hoop?

Can anyone give me a good reason to do this?

Most of the time it leads to a brutal mismatch and we have to double - leading to easy uncontested shots or quick fouls on our guys.

I teach my 6th graders to fight over screens and the help defender to Hedge and Recover. When playing Man 2 Man D, You should only switch screens in the paint or guard to guard where there is no mismatch created.

Am I wrong on this?

 

[maxiep]

Worse yet, that shit happens with Oden and Aldridge. WTF are they doing that far from the hoop on defense? GO should be in the paint every single second except when he needs to step out to restart the three count.

 

[Jurassic]

On a 6th grade level, nobody really has the ability to stop and immediately shoot after dribbling around a screen. In the NBA they do, so to prevent a bunch of open 3's players often switch. There are other reasons for it too, but that is a big one.

Edit: To elaborate, take Tony Parker for example. Players often fight under screens when guarding him, because he is less likely to shoot the outside shot. They are basically saying "we'll give you a long shot rather than letting you drive on us".

With Steve Nash he is an excellent outside shooter, AND can get into the paint. If you try to fight over the screen he kills you, fight under the screen he still kills you. Thus they switch and leave him with a mismatch, which is bad, but they still have the chance to send help when he drives.

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

On a 6th grade level, nobody really has the ability to stop and immediately shoot after dribbling around a screen. In the NBA they do, so to prevent a bunch of open 3's players often switch. There are other reasons for it too, but that is a big one.

Well, you'd be wrong about that. lol.. you should see the 6th graders we play against - kids can ball.

And if you Hedge it and Recover - with help defense sliding in to take away the screener who is rolling.. you shouldn't give up that many jumpers.

Even if you do, wouldnt you rather give up a 25 footer than have a huge mismatch in the paint? I would.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Nothing bothers me more about this team than seeing Aldridge and Oden constantly having to guard PG's because of our defensive scheme.

I would guess that on most nights Oden picks up at least 1 fould because he is guarding a perimeter player that attacks Oden's body.

 

[maxiep]

Nothing bothers me more about this team than seeing Aldridge and Oden constantly having to guard PG's because of our defensive scheme.

I would guess that on most nights Oden picks up at least 1 fould because he is guarding a perimeter player that attacks Oden's body.

The paint should be verboten to any player under 6'5" on the opposing team. Put GO and LMA down there and no one who's not a four or a five is going to dare drive on this team.

 

[B-Roy]

To his credit though, Aldridge is a good perimeter defender.

 

[blue32]

To his credit though, Aldridge is a good perimeter defender.

agreed.

And some of those fouls Oden gets are so ticky tacky....it's almost "just because he's a rookie" syndrome..

 

[Jurassic]

To his credit though, Aldridge is a good perimeter defender.

Yeah, I actually meant to say that in my first post. I'm pretty sure that's a big part of why the Blazers kept switching screens. Aldridge is agile enough to stick a guard. Contests the shot and/or denies the entry pass, making the mismatch in the paint that resulted from switching irrelevant. The only problem is that when the guard shoots we are more likely to give up an offensive rebound if he misses.

Oden has no business playing perimeter defense.

 

[Driew]

The paint should be verboten to any player under 6'5" on the opposing team. Put GO and LMA down there and no one who's not a four or a five is going to dare drive on this team.

Problem is teams are putting big guys that can shoot the 15 footer against Oden so Oden has no choice but to leave the paint and guard him.

 

[maxiep]

Problem is teams are putting big guys that can shoot the 15 footer against Oden so Oden has no choice but to leave the paint and guard him.

There are a handful of centers that can consistently hit that shot. Yet, GO would follow Ben Wallace out there.

 

[MARIS61]

Another factor may be the fatigue that comes from fighting through screens.

In a running game, and with our depth, it pays in the end to stay fresh and sharp.

 

[Jurassic]

^^That's true. Obviously NBA teams pick a strategy before the game and scouting factors that we don't know about go into it.

For example, they might switch screens any time they are playing a team that's on the second half of a back to back. Sometimes it's not as much about what makes sense basketball-wise as it is scheduling, scouting, and other factors.