Syria

[Denny Crane]

Hoojacks -

What do you propose we do about the use of WMDs against civilians in Syria?

 

[oldguy]

Anyone wonder where Assad got the WMD's?

Go Blazers

 

[Nikolokolus]

We're not the world's police.

I read today that the latest poll shows 9% of americans favor intervention.

Like it matters what the American people think or want in this. That hasn't really mattered since 1947.

 

[PapaG]

Anyone wonder where Assad got the WMD's?

Go Blazers

I have doubts that Assad was the one who used the weapons. There is no proof; it very well could have come from the Al Qaeda rebels.

 

[Sedatedfork]

We don't have time to talk about Syria, we have to deal with Miley Cyrus and whether Ben Affleck should be Batman...

But seriously... yes this is very concerning. Frankly, don't think we can stand by if chemical weapons were actually used. Not sure what I would do, but that's why we have a President (so he can do something and then we can all complain about it later ). I hope this does not end up being a prolonged conflict. This is all rather scary. This needs to be massaged carefully with other countries in the region.

 

[Haakzilla]

...this is another wag the dog propaganda inspired war, complete bullshit really!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hoojacks -

What do you propose we do about the use of WMDs against civilians in Syria?

We should support the UN in whatever they decide to do.

The US does not need to be the police force for the Middle East.

 

[Denny Crane]

We should support the UN in whatever they decide to do.

The US does not need to be the police force for the Middle East.

US not only has a vote/veto on the security council, we are expected to be a leader.

Why the UN and not NATO?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

US not only has a vote/veto on the security council, we are expected to be a leader.

Why the UN and not NATO?

Last I heard Syria is not in Europe.

I expect us to be a leader at the UN. If the UN wants to go into Syria we should fully support.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Why are we so obsessed with interfering with the domestic affairs of a sovereign state? Certainly chemical weapons being deployed against people is awful, but butting our nose into a civil war is somehow supposed to end well for us? Until and unless this conflict is directly drawing treaty nations into the conflict I fail to see the national interest here.

 

[Denny Crane]

Last I heard Syria is not in Europe.

I expect us to be a leader at the UN. If the UN wants to go into Syria we should fully support.

Was Kosovo in europe? Looks middle east or mediterranian to me. That was a NATO operation.

If the US is a leader, then our ambassador will be twisting arms to do what the president wants us to do with approval.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Was Kosovo in europe? Looks middle east or mediterranian to me. That was a NATO operation.

If the US is a leader, then our ambassador will be twisting arms to do what the president wants us to do with approval.

I'm aware of that. I just feel that going into one more middle eastern country should be the decision of and done by the UN.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm aware of that. I just feel that going into one more middle eastern country should be the decision of and done by the UN.

Going into anyplace has not been what the UN does. At least not in the last 50 years.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hans Blix: Whether Obama in Syria or Bush in Iraq, The US Is Not the World Police

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/hans-blix-the-united-stat_b_3819367.html

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't really care what Hans Blix has to say about it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com

HuffPost is pounding the war drums on the home page.

 

[Nikolokolus]

And that's the real problem. Media companies have become nothing more than jingoistic mouthpieces for whatever party is control. When Bush was in power it was Fox News pounding the war drums. Now that Obama has continued the same executive over-reach it's HuffPo and MSNBC. The death of journalism in this country dovetails nicely with the death of common sense and a cherishing of democratic principles in this country.

I need a drink.

 

[THE HCP]

The HCP doesn't get involved in threads like this normally, but he will be over near there for a month in February. The Winter Olympics in Sochi is pretty damn close to Syria.... Close enough to have him worried a little bit. Wonder if this will affect the games?


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[SlyPokerDog]

The HCP doesn't get involved in threads like this normally, but he will be over near there for a month in February. The Winter Olympics in Sochi is pretty damn close to Syria.... Close enough to have him worried a little bit. Wonder if this will affect the games?


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You're going to leave the Blazers for a month? How will that work, aren't you under contract for the entire season?

 

[Sedatedfork]

You're going to leave the Blazers for a month? How will that work, aren't you under contract for the entire season?

Sounds like he is pulling a Rudy Fernandez

 

[BlazerWookee]

You're going to leave the Blazers for a month? How will that work, aren't you under contract for the entire season?

He's taking the Blazers with him. They'll play over there.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He's taking the Blazers with him. They'll play over there.

So HCP is going to be the bobsled and the Blazers the team pushing him?

 

[PapaG]

Last I heard Syria is not in Europe.

I expect us to be a leader at the UN. If the UN wants to go into Syria we should fully support.

Neither are Egypt or Libya...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Neither are Egypt or Libya...

Really? When did that happen?

 

[Denny Crane]

Did the Lakers use their amnesty provision on HCP? How did we get him back?!!!

 

[julius]

Did the Lakers use their amnesty provision on HCP? How did we get him back?!!!

we offered him extra tacos and beans

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

For once, I agree with PapaG. We don't really know who made those chemical attacks, while it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was Assad.

Comparing Saddam and Assad at this point might be fair.

 

[noknobs]

Either the U.S. always waits too long to intervene and only does so when it's in our best interest, or the U.S. needs to butt out and quit acting like the world police and just let the situation work itself out.

Pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[THE HCP]

Boss realizes how much dinero I can make is letting me take off for 3 1/2 weeks. All star break will take up 6 of those days.

Speaking of Lakers.... Will be working with their director and producer in the ducks game this weekend.... I'll tell them hi from you guys!


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[PapaG]

For once, I agree with PapaG. We don't really know who made those chemical attacks, while it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was Assad.

Comparing Saddam and Assad at this point might be fair.

The UN seems to have some doubts as well...

UN accuses Syrian rebels of carrying out sarin gas attacks which had been blamed on Assad's troops.

A senior United Nations official has claimed that Syrian rebels may have used chemical weapons against government forces. Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals, and there are strong, concrete suspicions of the use of sarin gas, ‘This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities.

Carla Del Ponte said UN Commission investigating war crimes in Syria has 'strong, concrete suspicions' that rebels used chemical weapons

Her remarks contradict statements by the U.S. and UK which said intelligence indicated Syrian soldiers used the weapons

Today fighting continued across Syria as rebels advanced on a northern airbase and shot down helicopter in the east

A senior United Nations official has claimed that Syrian rebels may have used chemical weapons against government forces.
Carla Del Ponte said evidence from casualties and medical staff indicated that rebel forces in the civil war had used the deadly nerve agent sarin.
‘Our investigators have been in neighbouring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals, and there are strong, concrete suspicions, but not yet incontrovertible proof, of the use of sarin gas,’ said Del Ponte in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.
‘This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities.’
Last night, the UN commission looking into allegations of war crimes in Syria tried to row back on the comments by its human rights investigator, pointing out that conclusive evidence had not been discovered.
However, the White House said it was likely that President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, not the rebels, were behind any chemical weapons use.
Syrian government forces and the rebels have already accused each other of carrying out three attacks with chemical weapons.
Sarin has been classed as a weapon of mass destruction due to its potency and is banned under international law.
US President Barack Obama has said that the use or deployment of chemical weapons in Syria would cross a ‘red line’ that could lead to foreign military intervention.
Following two Israeli air strikes on military bases in the Syrian capital Damascus over the weekend, a Russian foreign ministry spokesman said: ‘We are seriously concerned by the signs of preparation for possible armed intervention in Syria.’
As a long-standing Syrian ally, Russia has protected President Assad by blocking Western efforts in the UN Security Council to push him from power. Israeli officials claim the air strikes were to ensure Lebanon’s Hezbollah did not receive a shipment of hi-tech missiles that could threaten Israel.
The comments by Ms Del Ponte, a member of the U.N. panel probing alleged war crimes in Syria, contradict claims by Britain and the U.S. that intelligence reports showed Syrian soldiers had used chemical weapons.
She said that the United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law.



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[jlprk]

Following two Israeli air strikes on military bases in the Syrian capital Damascus over the weekend,

The American media forgot to tell us that Israel is busy attacking with or without us. Why not let Israel fight their own wars instead of bankrupting the U.S., in order to maintain all of Israel's neighbors in permanent disheaval.