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It's not. Foye was slightly better than Sergio last season, while Miller was worse than Outlaw at twice the price. Tell me how either of those players fit in on a rebuilding team?

16.3 ppg in 35+ mpg is SLIGHTLY better than Sergio?
 
Does this mean Butler is more expendable or does it mean that they are making a serious push?
 
Does this mean Butler is more expendable or does it mean that they are making a serious push?

adding a solid vet like Miller would indicate they're pretty happy with what they have to make a run in the Eastern Conference.
 
Overheard on Minneapolis sports talk radio:

"OOOOHHHH, big doins in the N-B-eh, fer sure."
 
It means they think they can make some noise in the east next year with everyone healthy. Foye gives them more than whatever they were hoping to get from a rookie next year and they avoid paying tons of money in the lux-tax. The Wiz will not move anyone significant from this point, I suspect.
 
ESPN is now saying they would keep the picks and not package them to move up.
 
Since when is 16/4/3 slightly better than Sergio? Yeah, he didn't shoot too well, but you're talking out of your ass.

I was just looking at their PERs. 12.5 compared to 13.75
This is like trading Jarret Jack (who was also slightly better than Sergio). Give him minutes and he'll put up some decent numbers, but he isn't anything special.
 
If that's all it took to get the #5 pick, I refuse to believe that we can't get a decent pick for a song.
Foye and Miller?? I think that's pretty good value for the pick. Both are proven commodities in this league, and the #5 pick is completely unproven so far.
 
dammit. I knew that Minn. had more to offer Wash. Fuck. Alright. Chances at Rubio are gone. Things are getting clearer. It's down to either Blair, Lawson, Curry, or Flynn for me.
 
ESPN is now saying they would keep the picks and not package them to move up.

Maybe not phooey! Now we just have to persuade Sacramento that they really want Sergio more than anybody in this draft...
 
Foye & Miller are bench level players on most good teams...Decent players, but nothing special...I think, depending on how MIN drafts they could end up better than WAS, who even with these additions is still going NOWHERE....Grunfeld is clueless....

MIN looks to be rebuilding like POR and OKC have done...not too bad at all...
 
Mike Miller is a solid veteran player. Foye is still a young prospect on the way up. I don't get why they trade for #5 if Rubio is not there AND they have #6 pick in the draft?
 
If they intend to swap #5 and #6 for #2, then we can forget about Rubio too.
Huh? Swapping #5 and #6 for #2 would be insanity. There is simply no one at #2 who is good enough to justify making that trade.
 
adding a solid vet like Miller would indicate they're pretty happy with what they have to make a run in the Eastern Conference.

Agreed. Grunfeld seemed pretty settled with the core of Arenas/Butler/Jamison in his interviews. Though they still have no bigs, they've got some nice perimeter players while getting rid of bad contracts.
 
There's always Oklahoma. Presti said he's willing to deal the #3 pick for value. I'm not sure what Minnesota is trying to accomplish with this deal. They gave up two starters for the #5 pick in a weak draft.

I can't imagine the Wizards are done dealing either. They have a lot redundancy on their roster with this move.
 
#5: James Harden
#6: Stephen Curry

Revamped backcourt.

That would be a very good draft for Minni. Great 2 guys to build around with the good post players they already have.
 
I can't imagine the Wizards are done dealing either. They have a lot redundancy on their roster with this move.

Explain. I think they added guys that have proven they can play to a team that is desperate for veterans in order to attempt a run. That is, if their big 3 can stay healthy.
 
I'm not sure what Minnesota is trying to accomplish with this deal.

With picks 5, 6, 18 and 28, and two second-rounders.. looks like they want to go the OKC/Portland route and build through the draft, and like the Blazers, take on a few bad contracts if that has to happen.

They've got Jefferson and Love up front. And guys like Gomes and Brewer. They can get some pretty good guards with those 5 and 6 picks.
 
good now we can put the rubio to pdx rumors to bed, hope Blair is our target
 
Mike Miller is a solid veteran player.

Not really. He's a good shooter who won't shoot. For a player who was once ROY his game went down the tubes almost as fast as Damon Stoudamire's.

Foye is still a young prospect on the way up.

Foye's a 'tweener. Now Wash. has a two-tweener backcourt!

I don't get why they trade for #5 if Rubio is not there AND they have #6 pick in the draft?

Maybe they like another PG just as much? Jonny Flynn's getting a lot of love. Maybe he'll get a lot of Love!
(It's the way I tell 'em.)

Will Harden drop to #5? Who's OKC taking?

Let's see:
1. Blake Griffin, obviously
2. ??? Memphis has got to want to move this pick. If they don't, it's between Thabeet and Evans, you'd have to think. Their biggest hole is PF but Jordan Hill is too high here.
3. Westbrook wants Harden. Makes sense.
4. Sacramento takes Rubio... or somebody else. Mystery.

I notice that Wash. dumped a fair amount of salary, and not just Etan Thomas. If the only reason the Blazers didn't get the #5 was because they wouldn't use up the cap space, I'll be pissed. This is where the Darius Miles shit really hits the fan.
 
I see it making sense for both teams in ways.

Minnesota: Thomas allows Al to play his natural position. Songalia provides front line depth with a competent veteran. I felt that Foye, just really wasn't turning into what they thought he would be. I don't think the Sergio comparison up above was even near valid, but I do think a more valid comparison would be a poor man's AI. Let's face it. A poor man's AI doesn't cut it. Has Mike Miller really played well in years? IMO he is a spot up jump shooter, where earlier in his career he was more dynamic.

Washington: They needed help and a guarantee in case Gilbert goes down again. The players they got back satisfy that. It doesn't really matter, because everybody knows with their lineup made up as is, their season still hinges on Gilbert Arenas health. Foye will provide a guarantee for some at least decent play if he goes down again.
 
I want in on all this trade action. I've been spoiled with a lot of Blazer activity at this point of the year that I will be slightly disappointed if we decide to sit tight.
 
I want in on all this trade action. I've been spoiled with a lot of Blazer activity at this point of the year that I will be slightly disappointed if we decide to sit tight.

We are practically in every trade rumor out there, but it seems like KP is holding tight and waiting til the last minute and holding out for the best deal... or won't do anything at all.

But I agree... I want in on the trade action!
 
It just seems strange for Minnesota to trade and get MORE picks...they have too many in a weak draft already. Oh, well...maybe they are not done and have something in the works with Portland.
 

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