Take on Okafor get 10?

[South East]

According to Shaun Powell

Hornets will entertain offers for 10th pick if someone also agrees to take Ariza or Okafor contracts.

I sounds like it might take a little more but that seems like a deal Portland should jump on. The Blazers need help down low and the only 2 bigs in free agency Kaman and Hawes and they will both be going for around 10 per. I think you could work something out like this.

NO
Okafor
#10

Por
S. Williams
K. Thomas
Smith
2 second rounders
$3 million

NO gets out of Okafor's contract and gets a young PG in Smith as well as a veteran in Thomas who could help Davis. Also $3 Million.

Por - Gets help in the front court, gets the #10 pick. Still has cap room to sign Dragic to up to $10 million starting contract.

Add an 11 for 14 and 16 swap with Houston.

16 and 6 for 2 with Charlotte

Draft
2 - Robinson
11 - Lillard
14 - Rivers

PG Dragic, Lillard
SG Mathews, Rivers, Williams
SF Batum, Babbitt
PF Aldridge, Robinson
C Okafor, Freeland, Przybilla

With a lot of Aldridge and Robinson running together.

 

[cdub503]

I think it will take a whole lot more than pooh to get the 10.... I think you'd have to give something up of value... either matthews or E. Will and some of the others that you mentioned to balance out the salaries...

Maybe this would work...

NO
Okafor
#10

POR
Matthews
Nolan
2 Second rounders
$3 mil

but then again i don't know why they'd do that if they think they are getting gordon back... sign and trade for hickson?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Has anybody else had a belly full of former Bobcats? I'm really done

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I dont think I'd take on Okafors deal for 10..... I'd try for Okafor if he was amnestied and we could get him for 5-6 million per year as our starting center.

I'd probably do Ariza and 10 for Shawne Williams, Nolan Smith, 40, 41 and $3 million (to pay them for Shawnes contract) if they really want to unload one of them.

It would make sense if we decided Batum was going to get 10 million or so per year and we didn't want to match that.

 

[Natebishop3]

If we could get the 10th, I wonder if the 10th and 11th would be enough to move up.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

They must really like Waiters (or whomever) to take on Emeka.

He's overpaid and has been on a steady decline since his second year.

 

[South East]

Who do people think will be the starting center next year? Here are the free agent centers

Chris Kaman, New Orleans Hornets – $12.7 million – Unrestricted
Marcus Camby, Houston Rockets – $12.9 million – Unrestricted
Spencer Hawes, Philadelphia 76ers – $4.1 million – Unrestricted
Kwame Brown, Milwaukee Bucks – $6.8 million – Unrestricted
Aaron Gray, Toronto Raptors – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
Jermaine O’Neal, Boston Celtics – $6.2 million – Unrestricted
Nazr Mohammed, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.8 million – Unrestricted
Omer Asik, Chicago Bulls – $1.9 million – Unrestricted*

The only 2 on there that interest me would be Omer Asik, but he's not ready to step into a starting role. Kaman is the same age as Okafor but will probably require a longer contract and is no where near the defensive presence that Okafor is. Hawes will get around $9-$10 mil (not interested)

So that leaves Aldridge as the starting center. If you are counting on Aldridge to be the long term cornerstone then he shouldn't be logging most of his minutes bangin down low on defense. Although none of his injuries have been serious he has had some issues and guarding the other teams best player will not help Aldridge's longevity.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Who do people think will be the starting center next year? Here are the free agent centers

Chris Kaman, New Orleans Hornets – $12.7 million – Unrestricted
Marcus Camby, Houston Rockets – $12.9 million – Unrestricted
Spencer Hawes, Philadelphia 76ers – $4.1 million – Unrestricted
Kwame Brown, Milwaukee Bucks – $6.8 million – Unrestricted
Aaron Gray, Toronto Raptors – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
Jermaine O’Neal, Boston Celtics – $6.2 million – Unrestricted
Nazr Mohammed, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.8 million – Unrestricted
Omer Asik, Chicago Bulls – $1.9 million – Unrestricted*

The only 2 on there that interest me would be Omer Asik, but he's not ready to step into a starting role. Kaman is the same age as Okafor but will probably require a longer contract and is no where near the defensive presence that Okafor is. Hawes will get around $9-$10 mil (not interested)

So that leaves Aldridge as the starting center. If you are counting on Aldridge to be the long term cornerstone then he shouldn't be logging most of his minutes bangin down low on defense. Although none of his injuries have been serious he has had some issues and guarding the other teams best player will not help Aldridge's longevity.

LaMarcus Aldridge.

 

[South East]

LaMarcus Aldridge.

I don't think he can take that long term. Portland needs to get a big body to help alleviate some of the defensive pressure during the regular season. Aldridge can't be the #1 option on offense and expend tons of energy on defense. He needs to have something left at playoff time. He is not that guy who is going to be a guy patrolling the paint like Camby did. He's not gonna make up for other players mistakes.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I don't think he can take that long term. Portland needs to get a big body to help alleviate some of the defensive pressure during the regular season. Aldridge can't be the #1 option on offense and expend tons of energy on defense. He needs to have something left at playoff time. He is not that guy who is going to be a guy patrolling the paint like Camby did. He's not gonna make up for other players mistakes.

PF: Robinson
C: Aldridge

I think this would work -- LaMarcus can continue to play at the elbow while opening up the paint for Robinson to do his thing.

Perfect combo going forward.

 

[South East]

PF: Robinson
C: Aldridge

I think this would work -- LaMarcus can continue to play at the elbow while opening up the paint for Robinson to do his thing.

Perfect combo going forward.

I totally agree but how you gonna get Robinson? I think after his measurements he will be #2. If not by Charlotte then by someone else that trades up to that spot. You gonna trade 11 and 6 to get up there?

I still think they will need another defensive minded, big body because neither Aldridge nor Robinson are great defensive players.

 

[LameR]

I'd like to take a look at Hawes.

 

[Natebishop3]

I thought Hawes was restricted...

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's not a bad move, but it kills cap room.

You could move #6 and #10 for #2 and get Robinson, then pick BPA at #11 (Rivers)?

 

[tlongII]

Why take Robinson at #2? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Why take Robinson at #2? That doesn't make sense.

It's a hypothetical at this point. Whoever comes out of workouts as the second best player.

 

[tlongII]

It's a hypothetical at this point. Whoever comes out of workouts as the second best player.

Gotcha. I know a couple of mocks have him at #2, but I think that would be a mistake. I think MKG will go #2 and deservedly so.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Gotcha. I know a couple of mocks have him at #2, but I think that would be a mistake. I think MKG will go #2 and deservedly so.

LOL and I hate MKG at 2. People are different

 

[crandc]

Forget Ariza.

 

[Blaze01]

Forget Ariza.

Uh, no, don't...

He is owed $7.5 mil or so for each of the next 2 years, assuming POR has $13mil in cap space, if they could send out a young scrub (N.Smith or Babbitt) back in the deal...use the minim-amnesty to get out from S.Williams deal and get back a little cap space...they could have $7-8mil left after this deal to sign a FA....

and have #6, #10 & #11....

Those are the kinds of deal that you should look for IMO....Ariza can still play a little, he'll have trade value next year as an expiring and if not you cut him loose...no big deal...I would rather have Okafor b\c of the need at center but you can kiss all cap space goodbye with that move....


Of course, CHA is now saying they expect more than just a salary dump...I wish them luck with that, getting back Babbitt and\or Smith (or Claver) is about the best they can hope for...or should hope for from POR...

 

[3RA1N1AC]

both okafor and ariza have 2 years left on their contracts, emeka has around 27 million left, ariza about 15 million left, and both are around 15 PER types

totally worth it to grab the #10 with either imo, its all about adding assets, and ariza might even get a wild hair and opt out next offseason

 

[BBert]

totally worth it to grab the #10 with either imo, its all about adding assets, and ariza might even get a wild hair and opt out next offseason

Maybe if the fans boo the shit out of the cheap shot bastard every game, it mind help make up his mind.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I read via twitter yesterday that the Hornets were asking teams to take on more than just one of those contracts for the #10.

I realize you start by over-asking, and then cutting the price back. I'd consider taking Ariza to get the #10. But I sure as hell wouldn't take anything more than that.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Maybe if the fans boo the shit out of the cheap shot bastard every game, it mind help make up his mind.

Considering it was Rudy, I like Ariza now.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

okafor and ariza arent going to be much worse than what we could get in FA, so adding the #10, and then having massive cap room again in 2 years wouldnt be the worst thing

 

[Wizard Mentor]

okafor and ariza arent going to be much worse than what we could get in FA, so adding the #10, and then having massive cap room again in 2 years wouldnt be the worst thing

I like the idea of #10 + Okafor for cap space, but it kind of assumes we like some PG in the draft.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

it would certainly help with our depth to get players for free

bigs

lma/okafor/joel/freeland/ some draft stud

 

[Nikolokolus]

Okafor to me just isn't a difference maker and I'd actually prefer to see the team maintain cap flexibility and not spend it at all rather than blowing it on him.

 

[crandc]

Rudy wouldn't have had the physical problems (which IMO were the source of a lot of attitude problems) had it not been for cheap shot Laker Ariza.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Okafor to me just isn't a difference maker and I'd actually prefer to see the team maintain cap flexibility and not spend it at all rather than blowing it on him.

Which "difference maker" are we getting with our cap space? People like Dragic, so do I. But, is he a difference
maker?

Okafor would "store" our cap space for 2 years down the road, where we'd have a better chance of getting
a player that would put us in contention.

Finally, you're ignoring the #10 pick in the deal.